The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

[shopson67]

whoa.....older guys are saying their era was better in a sport and being critical of today's game/players? No way. This is a major story.

 

[dtgold88]

That’s not fair to say that. I’ve seen the entire body of work for both. in my mind it’s not even as close as some want to make it out to be.

and in my mind anyone who thinks it's not close has an agenda.

 

[dtgold88]

When you saw the entirety of both careers no excuses are needed. It’s simple for me, one was a stone cold killer and one was a great athlete that was not a stone cold killer.

Yet the stone cold killer missed the Finals in 9 of his 15 seasons, quit in the middle of his career then again when things were going to get hard losing Pippen?

 

[The Q]

And the traveling which also has become blatant, is that rampant too? To answer my own question, I believe traveling and palming the ball are becoming more prevalent and blatant, not only in the NBA but filtering down to even young kid's basketball. Plenty of examples.

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[dtgold88]

It's very fair since that is essentially what you are saying about those who favor Lebron.

I'm not even sure there are many here who favor Lebron at least as a clear GOAT. I think it's close....just absurd to think it's clearly MJ and no discussion.

Liked your recent comment...one game it's MJ. Career it's Lebron.

 

[shopson67]

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My dad used to complain about fouls and traveling, but these days he can't get past the hair styles in college hoops lol. Such a "not in my era" take...

 

[dtgold88]

To be fair, Jordan was the leader of one of those himself. I don't think we can say that about any of LeBron's teams. Maybe 2016? I'd still say 1996 Bulls > 2016 Cavs

I'd say the 2017 Cavs were his best team at least here. GS just happened to add that Durant fellow making them even better.

 

[Pastafazul]

I'd say sometimes what makes them entertaining are irrational, emotional posters like yourself who can make factually incorrect comments (lie) and cannot be adults to own them.

I may not be grammatically correct

But I’m sure as hell not 100% wrong from a certain vantage point

 

[dtgold88]

He is decidedly 3rd on my list.

Id probably put Magic 4th. From there its a matter of opinion. Can make a good case for Wilt at 4 also.

agree on 1-3 with 1-2 in some order than KAJ. I think you can also make a case for others over Magic at 4. If you want to go old school could go Bird, for instance....and might not be long could choose a more current player.

 

[The Q]

My dad used to complain about fouls and traveling, but these days he can't get past the hair styles in college hoops lol. Such a "not in my era" take...

Those are even worse than the traveling

 

[Pastafazul]

"Totally focused throughout his career" but had to quit?

Do you know why he quit?

 

[dtgold88]

I may not be grammatically correct

But I’m sure as hell not 100% wrong from a certain vantage point

100% wrong? Not all the time for sure. Hell, if you could switch up your schtick you definitely seem to know the sport. No need for the extreme exaggerations and/or factually incorrect comments.

 

[dtgold88]

Do you know why he quit?

I know the rumors as to why......also the rumors that he was the cause of the death. And he quit twice. The second time when things were about to get hard with no Pippen.

 

[dtgold88]

If prime Jordan got in a Time Machine and played for the 2017 Brooklyn Nets, they would have made the Finals and beaten the Warriors because Jordan is God and he doesn’t lose Finals.

I mean, I thought that was just facts everyone knew.

Right?

Well...he has to have Pippen in the Delorean with him.

 

[dtgold88]

What? I played the game by the rules and in Competitve Powerlifting, you get called on the spot and then you are screwed? You get removed from the competition that day. Personally, I know of several local scholastic programs that play by the rules of the game and the coaches demand protecting the Integrity of the Game or they don't play in that school ever again.

way to throw in your athletic exploits for no apparent reason.

 

[dtgold88]

Not sure what you are talking about.

But the rest of us are talking about traveling being officiated differently in basketball today vs. 40 years ago.

You are blaming the wrong people.

Like Pasta I think he wanted to somehow get in his own athletic endeavors (real or fake).....no matter had nothing to do with anything I guess.

 

[thunderc]

Yet the stone cold killer missed the Finals in 9 of his 15 seasons, quit in the middle of his career then again when things were going to get hard losing Pippen?

You obviously have your mind made up. That’s ok but you are wrong.

 

[tlance]

Like Pasta I think he wanted to somehow get in his own athletic endeavors (real or fake).....no matter had nothing to do with anything I guess.

Speaking of athletic exploits…

Every time people talk about blaming players for exploiting rule changes and things that refs are clearly not calling, I am reminded to an experience I had playing intramurals in college.

Down the stretch In a close game, my buddy deflected the ball out of bounds and the refs incorrectly awarded it to our team.

My friend told the ref that he in fact was last to touch the ball. The ref changed his call.

I wanted to strangle him.

Not really directly related of course, but the point is that no competitive person is going to do that. Competitors are going the other way and pushing the envelope of what officials will let go to gain an advantage any way they can.

 

[dtgold88]

And again I fully apologize for doubting drafting the kid. He's quickly becoming a fav of mine.

Maybe JB was a bad fit for Cleveland but the spark he's lit in this team is wild to see.

Hopefully Isiah is just done for the season and not the playoffs.

Good fit for both teams....especially the Cavs at the stage Detroit was in when you got him.

are we a 60 win team with JB? Guess is no, but I'd rather go into playoffs healthy with JB than decimated like last year and Atkinson.

 

[Pastafazul]

Yet the stone cold killer missed the Finals in 9 of his 15 seasons, quit in the middle of his career then again when things were going to get hard losing Pippen?

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh