The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

[bksballer89]

 

[wildturkey]

Celtics got their fluke title like the bucks nuggets and raptors

Time to sell off

Agreed.

Should trade Tatum to the Lakers for Rui, Vando and Gabe. Maybe a pick swap. I mean we all saw how Tatum isn't the guy, couldn't even play minutes for Team USA. Plus, he's a Kobe fan. Do you really want that on the Celtics?

 

[trojanfan12]

You prefer superteams dominating like the Warriors?

There's evidence that dynasties/superteams are good for sports. People like having someone to cheer against almost as much as they like having someone to cheer for.

With dynasty teams, you're either watching to see them win or watching to see them lose...but either way...you're watching.

 

[msgkings322]

There's evidence that dynasties/superteams are good for sports. People like having someone to cheer against almost as much as they like having someone to cheer for.

With dynasty teams, you're either watching to see them win or watching to see them lose...but either way...you're watching.

I tend to agree. To be honest it's best if a league switches from super teams to parity once in a while to mix it up and let more fanbases hope for titles.

 

[msgkings322]

Their very deep team has seen their depth tested a lot this year...

 

[trojanfan12]

I tend to agree. To be honest it's best if a league switches from super teams to parity once in a while to mix it up and let more fanbases hope for titles.

And that tends to be how things cycle. Which is why I don't like most of the salary cap rules that are designed to push parity and prevent dynasties. There have always been periods where there is a dynasty or 2, then it ends...we have a few years with no dynasties and then another emerges.

Right now, with the Warriors dynasty being over, we have a period of parity. But, from the looks of things, if OKC and the Cavs can keep enough of their cores together...we may be about to see a 2 dynasty period similar to what we got with the 80's Lakers and Celtics.

Even in the 80's, with the Lakers and Celtics dominating, the Sixers and Pistons each managed to sneak in and get a title and the Rockets made the finals twice.

 

[msgkings322]

And that tends to be how things cycle. Which is why I don't like most of the salary cap rules that are designed to push parity and prevent dynasties. There have always been periods where there is a dynasty or 2, then it ends...we have a few years with no dynasties and then another emerges.

Would that happen without the cap? The 80s and 90s were pretty much all dynasties running the NBA

Right now, with the Warriors dynasty being over, we have a period of parity. But, from the looks of things, if OKC and the Cavs can keep enough of their cores together...we may be about to see a 2 dynasty period similar to what we got with the 80's Lakers and Celtics.

That'd be cool especially with it being 2 tiny market teams.

Even in the 80's, with the Lakers and Celtics dominating, the Sixers and Pistons each managed to sneak in and get a title and the Rockets made the finals twice.

Pistons were sort of dynasty-ish, 3 finals in a row winning 2 in a row. Sixers too, 3 of 4 finals but only won one of course.

 

[The Q]

Would that happen without the cap? The 80s and 90s were pretty much all dynasties running the NBA

That'd be cool especially with it being 2 tiny market teams.

Pistons were sort of dynasty-ish, 3 finals in a row winning 2 in a row. Sixers too, 3 of 4 finals but only won one of course.

They timed it out with the lakers Celtics aging out and bias killing himself

 

[thunderc]

Cavs and Thunder both on track to win over 70 games. Very doubtful for either but I would wager it’s been quite a while since 2 teams got off to starts like this.

 

[msgkings322]

They timed it out with the lakers Celtics aging out and bias killing himself

What? Right after those 2 dynasties faded the Pistons and then especially the Bulls emerged

 

[The Q]

What? Right after those 2 dynasties faded the Pistons and then especially the Bulls emerged

That’s literally what I said

Except I added bias because he was a big loss and reason why

Him and Reggie Lewis

 

[trojanfan12]

Would that happen without the cap? The 80s and 90s were pretty much all dynasties running the NBA

There was the Lakers and Celtics in the 80's and as I pointed out, the Sixers and Pistons each managed to win a title and the Rockets made the finals twice.

The 90's was the Bulls, but even then, the Lakers, Blazers, Suns, Jazz and Sonics all got shots at it. Hakeem and the Rockets got 2 when MJ retired for a couple of years which led to the Knicks and Magic each coming out of the East. So, 8 different teams at least had shots at titles.

That'd be cool especially with it being 2 tiny market teams.

Yeah, it's cool, but how much are those teams going to drive viewership? Basketball junkies like those of us who post here are going to watch and appreciate those teams...but the "big brand" teams are the ones who really drive the viewership and therefore, the revenue because they are the teams that the more casual fans know and want to see.

 

[trojanfan12]

Pistons were sort of dynasty-ish, 3 finals in a row winning 2 in a row. Sixers too, 3 of 4 finals but only won one of course.

Those were like Dollar Store dynasties. lol

 

[msgkings322]

That’s literally what I said

Except I added bias because he was a big loss and reason why

Him and Reggie Lewis

Oh thought you meant the dynasty period ended with the Lakers and Celtics

 

[msgkings322]

Those were like Dollar Store dynasties. lol

They can't all be the Curry led Warriors

 

[The Q]

Oh thought you meant the dynasty period ended with the Lakers and Celtics

I swear sometimes you guys just expect me to such a complete and total dick head you just argue with me even when I agree with you

 

[msgkings322]

I swear sometimes you guys just expect me to such a complete and total dick head you just argue with me even when I agree with you

 

[tlance]

the Jimmy Butler era in Miami was always going to end this way--- him acting like malcontent- forcing their hand to try and trade him. Apparently he is going to be EXTREMELY difficult to trade.

Which teams could actually trade for him?​

Butler asking to be traded and the Heat now listening to offers does not change the challenges of finding the former All-Star a new home. The combination of Butler's $48.8 million salary this season and nearly a third of teams not allowed to take back more salary in a trade makes any potential deal complicated.

Three out of the four teams on Butler's preferred list -- the Dallas Mavericks, the Golden State Warriors and the Phoenix Suns -- would need to trade a quarter of their roster. The Suns would need to have Bradley Beal waive his no-trade clause. Sources told ESPN, that the Heat have no desire to take back the $110 million owed to Beal and that Phoenix would need to find a third team. The Warriors and Mavericks probably would need to find a third or fourth team to reroute some of the contracts sent out.

The Heat also are not allowed to take back more salary because they are an apron team. -- Marks

Regardless of the fact that it is ending poorly…

It doesn’t make you right about all the crap you talked about Butler and the Heat.

They had a very good run with him. Now it is time for the run to end.

 

[trojanfan12]

They can't all be the Curry led Warriors

The Warriors are actually a great example of why dynasties are good for sports. At first, the Warriors were the "good guys" and everybody loved them...but, they kept winning and suddenly what Steph does with his mouthpiece becomes annoying, Dray's an asshole and then they go get KD and they were now the villains...then, in 2022, when the core was old and they were trying to squeeze out 1 last title...everyone loved them again. lol

 

[thunderc]

The Warriors are actually a great example of why dynasties are good for sports. At first, the Warriors were the "good guys" and everybody loved them...but, they kept winning and suddenly what Steph does with his mouthpiece becomes annoying, Dray's an asshole and then they go get KD and they were now the villains...then, in 2022, when the core was old and they were trying to squeeze out 1 last title...everyone loved them again. lol

I would like it noted that I never loved the Warriors.