The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[bksballer89]

Would you not booker play vs the sixers instead of the pistons tmr?

 

[thunderc]

If they ruled that Giddy hitting the net was the call then the last bucket review announcement should have said defensive goaltending. I don’t know how that gets ruled though. If there is a call of defensive goaltending on a made bucket is it like a declined penalty in football and the bucket counts and goaltend isn’t recorded?

That was not the call, I’m confident in that. What Giddey did was not a violation.

 

[trojanfan12]

That’s some day after spin of what happened. That bothers me more than the call. If they cite Giddey immediately I feel more comfortable with how it played up. The changing up casts doubt.

That's why I think they just flubbed the explanation.

Giddey touching the net first would make Dray touching the rim inconsequential which makes sense.

If Giddey doesn't touch the net or touched it 2nd, then it wouldn't matter if Dray touching the rim effected the shot, it would have been offensive goaltending and the shot wouldn't have counted.

And they didn't really change the explanation. They added the reason that made Dray touching the rim inconsequential. When they gave the explanation at the time, I was thinking "That makes no sense. Simply touching the rim makes it offensive goaltending". Then, when they explained about Giddey touching the net, it made sense.

 

[fightinfunbags]

No booker this afternoon

Huge. Booker kills the Sixers

 

[thunderc]

That's why I think they just flubbed the explanation.

Giddey touching the net first would make Dray touching the rim inconsequential which makes sense.

If Giddey doesn't touch the net or touched it 2nd, then it wouldn't matter if Dray touching the rim effected the shot, it would have been offensive goaltending and the shot wouldn't have counted.

And they didn't really change the explanation. They added the reason that made Dray touching the rim inconsequential. When they gave the explanation at the time, I was thinking "That makes no sense. Simply touching the rim makes it offensive goaltending". Then, when they explained about Giddey touching the net, it made sense.

No, read the rules I posted. Giddey touching the net is not a problem in this instance.

 

[trojanfan12]

If they ruled that Giddy hitting the net was the call then the last bucket review announcement should have said defensive goaltending. I don’t know how that gets ruled though. If there is a call of defensive goaltending on a made bucket is it like a declined penalty in football and the bucket counts and goaltend isn’t recorded?

Giddey touching the net was ultimately what the call was. I think they were too focused on trying to explain why Dray touching the rim didn't matter because everyone in the arena and watching on tv saw Dray touch the rim, but few saw Giddey touch the net.

 

[thunderc]

Giddey touching the net was ultimately what the call was. I think they were too focused on trying to explain why Dray touching the rim didn't matter because everyone in the arena and watching on tv saw Dray touch the rim, but few saw Giddey touch the net.

No it was not, that explanation is nowhere to be found and it goes against the official rules.

 

[trojanfan12]

That was not the call, I’m confident in that. What Giddey did was not a violation.

lol

What Giddey did was absolutely a violation, the ball was above the cylinder and Giddey touched the net. That is absolutely defensive goaltending. Always has been.

 

[thunderc]

lol

What Giddey did was absolutely a violation, the ball was above the cylinder and Giddey touched the net. That is absolutely defensive goaltending. Always has been.

You obviously did not read the goaltending rules I posted. The only mention of net say you can’t touch it if the ball is in the net, it was most certainly not in the net.

 

[trojanfan12]

No it was not, that explanation is nowhere to be found and it goes against the official rules.

It doesn't go against the rules and Giddey was asked about it in the presser.

 

[thunderc]

It doesn't go against the rules and Giddey was asked about it in the presser.

It simply doesn’t matter that he was asked about it, what difference does that make. The Thunder aren’t blaming the loss on anything but themselves. I’m just saying by the rules what Giddey did was not a violation and the league has literally not said it was, ever.

 

[trojanfan12]

It simply doesn’t matter that he was asked about it, what difference does that make. The Thunder aren’t blaming the loss on anything but themselves. I’m just saying by the rules what Giddey did was not a violation and the league has literally not said it was, ever.

You're saying there's no explanation out there and I'm saying there is and that Giddey was asked specifically about touching the net. If there's no explanation, how does the reporter know to ask Giddey about touching the net?

Additionally, what Giddey did is actually "basket interference".

"Basket interference" applies when the ball is in the imaginary cylinder or on the rim or backboard. In this case the ball was in the imaginary cylinder when Giddey touched the net.

 

[thunderc]

You're saying there's no explanation out there and I'm saying there is and that Giddey was asked specifically about touching the net. If there's no explanation, how does the reporter know to ask Giddey about touching the net?

Additionally, what Giddey did is actually "basket interference".

"Basket interference" applies when the ball is in the imaginary cylinder or on the rim or backboard. In this case the ball was in the imaginary cylinder when Giddey touched the net.

I posted the rules, I know how to read lol. There is nothing from the league that mentions Giddey, nothing. I expect we will hear more and the league will stand behind the only thing they are on record of in that what Draymond did had no effect.

 

[trojanfan12]

I posted the rules, I know how to read lol. There is nothing from the league that mentions Giddey, nothing. I expect we will hear more and the league will stand behind the only thing they are on record of in that what Draymond did had no effect.

You didn't post the basket interference rules and I've told you how to find the explanation. Done with this convo about something that you're "over already".

 

[thunderc]

You didn't post the basket interference rules and I've told you how to find the explanation. Done with this convo about something that you're "over already".

Basket interference rules. The last one is the only one that mentions the net. It sucks to be wrong.

RULE NO. 11: Basket Interference – Goaltending

Section I—A Player Shall Not: Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is sitting or rolling on the ring and using the basket ring as its lower base or hang on the rim while the ball is passing through. EXCEPTION: If a player near his own basket has his hand legally in contact with the...

official.nba.com

 

[trojanfan12]

Basket interference rules, for the send time. The last one is the only one that mentions the net. It sucks to be wrong.

https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/nba-reveals-explanation-for-controversial-warriors-vs-thunder-ending

Glad you can admit it.

 

[thunderc]

Glad you can admit it.

You still haven’t read the basket interference rules obviously, you aren’t stupid

RULE NO. 11: Basket Interference – Goaltending

Section I—A Player Shall Not: Touch the ball or the basket ring when the ball is sitting or rolling on the ring and using the basket ring as its lower base or hang on the rim while the ball is passing through. EXCEPTION: If a player near his own basket has his hand legally in contact with the...

official.nba.com

 

[trojanfan12]

You still haven’t read the basket interference rules obviously, you aren’t stupid

lol

I brought up the basket interference rules. Nice try.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[thunderc]

lol

I brought up the basket interference rules. Nice try.

I posted them, are you being dense on purpose. One more time. The last rule is the only one that mentions the net. Read it, or keep looking dumb, your call.