The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[Mecca]

This argument between the Philly fan and the Denver frontrunner is hilarious.

The fact that we are still talking about this shit is even more baffling.

More than 1 guy can be worthy.

I thought Embiid should have won at least one of Jokers trophies.

But it wasn’t a robbery by any stretch of the imagination.

Also, IDGAF what analytics says.

Anyone claiming Jokic is anything other than adequate as a defender is on that shit.

He isn’t trash.

But, he’s barely more than average.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Mecca]

As I said last night he cries a lot and happy they are cracking down on his bs

Learned it from Luka.

Doncic has toned it down this Season

 

[DJ]

The fact that we are still talking about this shit is even more baffling.

More than 1 guy can be worthy.

I thought Embiid should have won at least one of Jokers trophies.

But it wasn’t a robbery by any stretch of the imagination.

Also, IDGAF what analytics says.

Anyone claiming Jokic is anything other than adequate as a defender is on that shit.

He isn’t trash.

But, he’s barely more than average.

Before the middle of last season....Duff showed up here 2-3 times a month.

Since the middle of last season? 4-5 times a week (if not daily).....

 

[trojanfan12]

They upgraded cast around him but it's still not on par with Denver's supporting cast.

Luka has been playing out of his mind. I think Luka deserves strong consideration for it.

Disagree on Luka receiving strong consideration. Mavs don't have the record for it.

 

[Duffman]

Before the middle of last season....Duff showed up here 2-3 times a month.

Since the middle of last season? 4-5 times a week (if not daily).....

And the Nuggets have been good for the past 5-6 seasons so unlike what some people claim you can’t just say I showed up when they got good. It’s never been a secret that the football forum is where I spent most of my time, doesn’t mean I never paid attention to this forum I just didn’t post as much, now I do.

 

[DJ]

And the Nuggets have been good for the past 5-6 seasons so unlike what some people claim you can’t just say I showed up when they got good. It’s never been a secret that the football forum is where I spent most of my time, doesn’t mean I never paid attention to this forum I just didn’t post as much, now I do.

#frontrunner

 

[trojanfan12]

Yes he is and you don't watch him. You only tally up the games played. Try seeing with your eyes next time he's on the court.

You do have them, eyes, don't you?

How the hell can we watch someone who never plays?

 

[eaglesnut]

How the hell can we watch someone who never plays?

I already told you that. Pay attention.

 

[trojanfan12]

I already told you that. Pay attention.

You understand that to watch him play...he has to actually play, like in actual games, right?

 

[Mecca]

Yes he is and you don't watch him. You only tally up the games played. Try seeing with your eyes next time he's on the court.

You do have them, eyes, don't you?

This is Tim Duncan vs Karl Malone.

Malone had better stats.

I have Duncan as the superior player.

And it’s not because Malone is a disgusting ped-o-phile.

I leaned Duncan before I even knew about that stuff.

It’s about preference.

Joker and Joel control the game in different ways.

 

[trojanfan12]

“People actually in the game” say he’s a poor defender as well.

I see him as a bit of a modern day Magic Johnson when it comes to defense. Magic was a better defender than he got credit for, partially because his offensive skills were so elite.

He wasn't locking anybody up 1 on 1. But he was good at team and help defense.

 

[shopson67]

This is Tim Duncan vs Karl Malone.

Malone had better stats.

I have Duncan as the superior player.

And it’s not because Malone is a disgusting ped-o-phile.

I leaned Duncan before I even knew about that stuff.

It’s about preference.

Joker and Joel control the game in different ways.

The difference is those two guys rarely missed games. If the 65 game requirement had been in place all along, Embiid would have two seasons where he would even qualify (and barely).

 

[Mecca]

Disagree on Luka receiving strong consideration. Mavs don't have the record for it.

His numbers are legit.

But, Westbrook is the only guy I remember winning it without being a top 4 seed and that was because of the historical significance.

The nostalgia has worn off a bit with triple doubles.

So, even with comparable numbers, Luka won’t win.

Westbrook

2016-17

OKC

81

1

34.6

31.6

10.7

10.4

1.6

0.4

5.4

10.2

24.0

42

Luka Doncic

2023-24

DAL

65

37.4

34.0

9.1

9.8

1.5

0.5

4.0

11.6

23.6

48.9

 

[Mecca]

The difference is those two guys rarely missed games. If the 65 game requirement had been in place all along, Embiid would have two seasons where he would even qualify (and barely).

Oh, I agree with that.

I’m just pointing out that numbers don’t tell the whole story.

The more dominant player doesn’t always have the better stats.

 

[eaglesnut]

You understand that to watch him play...he has to actually play, like in actual games, right?

He's been there. You must have missed it.

He'll be there again. Don't miss it.

 

[Wamu]

The fact that we are still talking about this shit is even more baffling.

More than 1 guy can be worthy.

I thought Embiid should have won at least one of Jokers trophies. <---

But it wasn’t a robbery by any stretch of the imagination.

Also, IDGAF what analytics says.

Anyone claiming Jokic is anything other than adequate as a defender is on that shit.

He isn’t trash.

But, he’s barely more than average.

Just wondering which one of NJ's MVP's should JE have won?

I remember for his first MVP the talking heads said it came down to games played. Jokic played 72 and Embiid played 51. For his second MVP Jokic shot .583 from the field, Embiid .499. Also he averaged 7.9 asts while Joel averaged 4.2.

And obviously Embiid's the far better defender. But Jokic has far better court vision.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's been there. You must have missed it.

Guess I blinked at the wrong time.

 

[msgkings322]

Draymond's game last night shows why they put up with his shit

 

[Mecca]

He's been there. You must have missed it.

He'll be there again. Don't miss it.

I think Embiid should be a 2X MVP.

But…

He played 34 games this Season.

He doesn’t belong anywhere near the MVP discussion this year.