The 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[dtgold88]

Guilty

Never trust a QB from USC

From what school would you trust a QB?

 

[dtgold88]

If its Notre Dame, USC, Baylor, or Oklahoma St then I'll give a lot of pause before trusting a QB

I'll ask you, too....from what school would you trust a QB?

 

[Clayton]

I'll ask you, too....from what school would you trust a QB?

I think its easier to give negative marks towards a system than positive marks.

Oklahoma and Clemson both might be on to something, though. Not sure I'd give positive marks but I think they're at least attempting to recruit and develop high end passing games.

 

[dtgold88]

I think its easier to give negative marks towards a system than positive marks.

Oklahoma and Clemson both might be on to something, though. Not sure I'd give positive marks but I think they're at least attempting to recruit and develop high end passing games.

On to something? Maybe, but a very small sample size. All of 2 QBs for each and none have had more than 1 solid, complete NFL season. 1 still is in college.

 

[Clayton]

On to something? Maybe, but a very small sample size. All of 2 QBs for each and none have had more than 1 solid, complete NFL season. 1 still is in college.

While I mostly agree, I will say that if Jalen Hurts was coming out of...lets say Mizzou...instead of Oklahoma then he'd be seen as a 5th rounder.

 

[dtgold88]

While I mostly agree, I will say that if Jalen Hurts was coming out of...lets say Mizzou...instead of Oklahoma then he'd be seen as a 5th rounder.

wasn't Dak a 4th rounder...and he had some off the field issues. I really don't think scouts put much into a kid's school.

 

[cwalke3408]

From what school would you trust a QB?

None, it's mainly a case by case situation when drafting QBs

 

[Shanemansj13]

wasn't Dak a 4th rounder...and he had some off the field issues. I really don't think scouts put much into a kid's school.

He had an alleged DUI but for the most part at MSU he was a very good kid. Wouldnt say that he had “off the field issues”. At the time he was the best QB in the SEC but around that time Miss St was a top football program, he was in the best conference in the country, Dan Mullen was coach and they were in the spotlight...I think it does play a role but like you said, not a major role after the combine, team workouts and scouts. I mean it does play a role to an extent, like if Flacco played in the SEC instead of Delaware he could have been a top 5 pick. I still don’t think it plays a huge role though. Dak wasnt drafted high bc he had a lot of question marks.

 

[SteelersPride]

FWIW, I don't think this is a lackluster QB draft. Its just a risky one. If I comp them out then its something like:

Burrow = Romo
Love = Dak
Tua = Bridgewater
Herbert = Foles
Eason = Jameis Winston
Fromm = AJ McCarron

Then thats still an alright draft.

Tua arm is muchhh stronger than teddy's

 

[Clayton]

Tua arm is muchhh stronger than teddy's

id agree with that. Many people forget that a lot of draft people thought Bridgewater was the next Andrew Luck. Tua is so injury prone, surrounded by talent, and left handed. There is no NFL player to compare him to

Bridgewater also has a career record of 22-12 which has to be the most surprising QB stat in football.

 

[dtgold88]

None, it's mainly a case by case situation when drafting QBs

Exactly. They don't care about school or conference.

 

[dtgold88]

He had an alleged DUI but for the most part at MSU he was a very good kid. Wouldnt say that he had “off the field issues”. At the time he was the best QB in the SEC but around that time Miss St was a top football program, he was in the best conference in the country, Dan Mullen was coach and they were in the spotlight...I think it does play a role but like you said, not a major role after the combine, team workouts and scouts. I mean it does play a role to an extent, like if Flacco played in the SEC instead of Delaware he could have been a top 5 pick. I still don’t think it plays a huge role though. Dak wasnt drafted high bc he had a lot of question marks.

Kind of agree it could matter.....but Wentz went #1.

 

[shopson67]

"Played against good guys" in the SEC......

"Oh yeah well then why did player X have better stats in the SEC and is ranked lower? They also played on worse teams, with worse quarterbacks.."

"crickets"

Like jauan jennings or bryan edwards....

Edwards' injury clouds things a bit. However, there's more to a receiver than just stats. Can he run a full route tree, or did he just rely on speed against collegiate secondaries to beat everyone deep? Hands, abiity to beat the press, etc. Plus, did those receivers with gaudier stats have talented receivers/backs to steal touches and targets from them?

 

[SteelersPride]

Edwards' injury clouds things a bit. However, there's more to a receiver than just stats. Can he run a full route tree, or did he just rely on speed against collegiate secondaries to beat everyone deep? Hands, abiity to beat the press, etc. Plus, did those receivers with gaudier stats have talented receivers/backs to steal touches and targets from them?

i agree........but thats rarely brought into discussion.....its "ive seen it" or "they played here"

lets take tyler johnson......or reagor

 

[SteelersPride]

Edwards' injury clouds things a bit. However, there's more to a receiver than just stats. Can he run a full route tree, or did he just rely on speed against collegiate secondaries to beat everyone deep? Hands, abiity to beat the press, etc. Plus, did those receivers with gaudier stats have talented receivers/backs to steal touches and targets from them?

edwards is gonna be a steal if hes healthy.....just my opinion

 

[SteelersPride]

id agree with that. Many people forget that a lot of draft people thought Bridgewater was the next Andrew Luck. Tua is so injury prone, surrounded by talent, and left handed. There is no NFL player to compare him to

Bridgewater also has a career record of 22-12 which has to be the most surprising QB stat in football.

lol true.......on all fronts, i never heard luck and bridgewater comparisons?

Kind of agree it could matter.....but Wentz went #1.

no, second overall

 

[eaglesnut]

id agree with that. Many people forget that a lot of draft people thought Bridgewater was the next Andrew Luck. Tua is so injury prone, surrounded by talent, and left handed. There is no NFL player to compare him to

Bridgewater also has a career record of 22-12 which has to be the most surprising QB stat in football.

Bridgewater can ball. Was developing nicely and then blew out the knee.

 

[SteelersPride]

From what school would you trust a QB?

The MAC

 

[Shanemansj13]

Giants Interviewed Oregon QB Justin Herbert | NFLTradeRumors.co

If there is a guy who would do this...it would be Gettleman. It's kinda shocking they are even interviewing Herbert. Daniel Jones is your guy, Dave.

 

[dtgold88]

The MAC

Haha

If you listened to most fans, a team would never take a QB. Most QBs, no matter what school or conference fail.

Or I guess teams could go the other way and say who is the Cal QB? We better take him...look how good Rodgers is. Or maybe we need to take the NC St guy after wilson and Rivers success.

 

[molsaniceman]

From what school would you trust a QB?

NC STATE