Thanks Brian Kelly

[foster4prez]

It’s definitely a ceiling. Especially with the whole no conference thing.

This is why Kelly left. He had gotten basically perfect at ND and it still wasn't good enough.

 

[YankeeRebel]

This is why Kelly left. He had gotten basically perfect at ND and it still wasn't good enough.

I sort of agree I feel because of the academic standards being higher than the NCAA standards schools like Stanford, ND, Vanderbilt etc will never win a national championship they just can't get enough talent. But that's okay these young men still get a good education

 

[poewelch84]

When was the last time or has there ever been a time when a coach left ND in a circumstance other than being fired or retired???

Never happened before but a first time for everything. Kelly will go down as the best Notre Dame coach to never win a national title.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Never happened before but a first time for everything. Kelly will go down as the best Notre Dame coach to never win a national title.

He already has!

 

[poewelch84]

He already has!

I'm guessing the next guy hopeful wins a national title.

 

[wazzu31]

I sort of agree I feel because of the academic standards being higher than the NCAA standards schools like Stanford, ND, Vanderbilt etc will never win a national championship they just can't get enough talent. But that's okay these young men still get a good education

I’ve never understood the argument. Is it tougher, sure but it isn’t like the top 100 college football players are retarded. Even with the “higher academic” standards you don’t have to be a brain surgeon to get into Notre Dame on an athletic scholarship.

 

[Justin Tyme]

I'm actually surprised as hell about this one..........

Hold my beer.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I’ve never understood the argument. Is it tougher, sure but it isn’t like the top 100 college football players are retarded. Even with the “higher academic” standards you don’t have to be a brain surgeon to get into Notre Dame on an athletic scholarship.

To get an athletic scholarship the requirements are higher than the NCAA standard, all I am saying. and because of they lose out on some talent.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I’ve never understood the argument. Is it tougher, sure but it isn’t like the top 100 college football players are retarded. Even with the “higher academic” standards you don’t have to be a brain surgeon to get into Notre Dame on an athletic scholarship.

It’s not about “getting in”. It’s about the academic rigor for 4 years. Even “joke” majors like Cinema and Film Studies at Notre Dame have classes that require 4-5 papers each semester. People are like water and choose the path of least resistance. ND doesn’t offer Rocks for Jocks curriculum. At the same time, it’s not like other universities are lacking if a player wants a serious education. These football factories offer both paths. ND pretty much only presents one. That’s what makes it more difficult to recruit to ND. Now work in the reality that the glut of prospects are located in the South now. ND has cold winters and most kids (not all) choose to go to school in their home region. There are a number of factors. It’s not an impossible condition. It just takes extraordinary effort.

 

[foster4prez]

It’s not about “getting in”. It’s about the academic rigor for 4 years. Even “joke” majors like Cinema and Film Studies at Notre Dame have classes that require 4-5 papers each semester. People are like water and choose the path of least resistance. ND doesn’t offer Rocks for Jocks curriculum. At the same time, it’s not like other universities are lacking if a player wants a serious education. These football factories offer both paths. ND pretty much only presents one. That’s what makes it more difficult to recruit to ND. Now work in the reality that the glut of prospects are located in the South now. ND has cold winters and most kids (not all) choose to go to school in their home region. There are a number of factors. It’s not an impossible condition. It just takes extraordinary effort.

UVA fans always squawk about this but they do kind of have a point. A couple examples:

• UVA requires students to declare a major after their freshman year. A lot of other schools don't allowing "jocks" to continue to float in 1000 level classes
• UVA requires student to spend TWO semesters on academic probation (meaning no sports). Most other school only require one. So most schools "jocks" can fuck off during their season and then make things up the next semester when they aren't in season.

 

[wazzu31]

It’s not about “getting in”. It’s about the academic rigor for 4 years. Even “joke” majors like Cinema and Film Studies at Notre Dame have classes that require 4-5 papers each semester. People are like water and choose the path of least resistance. ND doesn’t offer Rocks for Jocks curriculum. At the same time, it’s not like other universities are lacking if a player wants a serious education. These football factories offer both paths. ND pretty much only presents one. That’s what makes it more difficult to recruit to ND. Now work in the reality that the glut of prospects are located in the South now. ND has cold winters and most kids (not all) choose to go to school in their home region. There are a number of factors. It’s not an impossible condition. It just takes extraordinary effort.

Stanford is a tougher school to get into and has higher academic standards and proves you wrong. Don’t recruit retards, it is that simple. Alabama and Clemson can’t recruit retards either. People need to quit pretending Notre Dame or any P5 school is an Ivy League school when it comes to their athletes.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Luke Fickell is a once in a lifetime coach. More-so a man. He refuses to abandon his kids (players).

Take more notes Brian Kelly (any other $ coach for that matter).

 

[fightinfunbags]

Luke Fickell is a once in a lifetime coach. More-so a man. He refuses to abandon his kids (players).

Take more notes Brian Kelly (any other $ coach for that matter).

ND made this decision not Luke Fickell

 

[jayfan]

This seems to happen to Notre dame with every coach. They get them for a while. The coach starts doin a good job. Then moves on. It’s like ND is a stepping stone for coaches

Huh? When else did this happen?

 

[Ron G]

Don't begrudge Kelly for leaving for both the money and chance to win.
Why could he not have waited until next week. He owed the players that much. And I just read an article that even if Michigan and Alabama lose they will still not get because the committee will just not let a team with an interim coach be in the playoff. But we will see.
In a perfect world for ND fans, Michigan, Alabama and OK State lose and ND wins the National Championship. And of course, he would not get the ring he so desperately wants.

 

[poewelch84]

Don't begrudge Kelly for leaving for both the money and chance to win.
Why could he not have waited until next week. He owed the players that much. And I just read an article that even if Michigan and Alabama lose they will still not get because the committee will just not let a team with an interim coach be in the playoff. But we will see.
In a perfect world for ND fans, Michigan, Alabama and OK State lose and ND wins the National Championship. And of course, he would not get the ring he so desperately wants.

By the time they pick Marcus Freeman will be the coach no interim tag will be applicable.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Don't begrudge Kelly for leaving for both the money and chance to win.
Why could he not have waited until next week. He owed the players that much. And I just read an article that even if Michigan and Alabama lose they will still not get because the committee will just not let a team with an interim coach be in the playoff. But we will see.
In a perfect world for ND fans, Michigan, Alabama and OK State lose and ND wins the National Championship. And of course, he would not get the ring he so desperately wants.

They don’t have an interim coach anymore. Marcus Freeman is their head coach and will coach out the rest of the season. The committee has no right to hold that against ND.

 

[foster4prez]

They don’t have an interim coach anymore. Marcus Freeman is their head coach and will coach out the rest of the season. The committee has no right to hold that against ND.

And they wouldn't have. No one with half a brain (or not searching for clicks) would even suggest a thing.

 

[fightinfunbags]

And they wouldn't have. No one with half a brain (or not searching for clicks) would even suggest a thing.

It’s in the committee’s by laws.

 

[Irish7478]

Stanford is a tougher school to get into and has higher academic standards and proves you wrong. Don’t recruit retards, it is that simple. Alabama and Clemson can’t recruit retards either. People need to quit pretending Notre Dame or any P5 school is an Ivy League school when it comes to their athletes.

and this must explain all the national championships that we have seen from Stanford over the last 70 years. because as we all know, they last won a championship in 1940. If anything, this shows how hard it is to win a championship in football for a school with high academic standards.