Texas AD is absolutely right about athletic scholarships..

[dirtboy068]

"A college campus" is making multi-billion dollars off of football? Please.


Texas has 525 student athletes on their own.

The NFL has 1,697 players TOTAL.

and your point.

 

[Red_Alert]

well title 9 NEEDS TO GO because its horse shite.

Congress passed Title 9. It is LAW.

Gender Equality in Athletics and Sports - Title IX Background and Continuing Challenges - Feminist Majority Foundation

 

[dirtboy068]

Nick Saban is worth far more to Bama than AJ McCarron ever was.

i dont think anyone would argue that. but AJ was for worth more than his scholarship.

 

[pabartl787]

and your point.

You seriously need to go to bed or something. The Force is not strong with you tonight.

 

[Red_Alert]

well title 9 NEEDS TO GO because its horse shite.

That was fucking hilarious, no?

 

[pabartl787]

i dont think anyone would argue that. but AJ was for worth more than his scholarship.

Thats very debatable

 

[pabartl787]

That was fucking hilarious, no?

I have no words for it.

 

[dirtboy068]

Congress passed Title 9. It is LAW.

Gender Equality in Athletics and Sports - Title IX Background and Continuing Challenges - Feminist Majority Foundation

Title IX says nothing about the issue of compensation. Title IX talks about giving equal opportunities to participate in athletics, which this case wouldn't change one way or another. You'd have the same opportunities, except in those two sports (football and men's basketball) the schools would be free to treat the athletes more fairly given the revenue being generated. It's really no different now than the head football coach at Alabama, I'm sure, makes more money in salary than all of the female coaches at Alabama put together. That's not a Title IX violation."

 

[Red_Alert]

and your point.

The NFL has less people feeding at the trough.

You can't see that Texas has 1/3 of the athletes of the entire NFL?

 

[dirtboy068]

Yeah because other teams have better players and win more.

But "better" is relative. If the best players went elsewhere, the new "better" players would be the players at Indiana now, and they'll be at Alabama instead.

i think thats my point..

 

[Red_Alert]

Title IX says nothing about the issue of compensation. Title IX talks about giving equal opportunities to participate in athletics, which this case wouldn't change one way or another. You'd have the same opportunities, except in those two sports (football and men's basketball) the schools would be free to treat the athletes more fairly given the revenue being generated. It's really no different now than the head football coach at Alabama, I'm sure, makes more money in salary than all of the female coaches at Alabama put together. That's not a Title IX violation."

You are seriously as dim witted as they come.

Title 9 says you cannot SPEND more money on men's sports than women's sports. You will invest equal revenue in each. That's why there are more women's sports offered in colleges than men's. Because the cost of the football program (# of players) is so much more than other sports. When Title 9 LAW passed, they actually had to create women's sports to get the numbers right. Arizona created a women's rowing team IN THE DESERT. Men's sports had to be dropped. Wisconsin, Colorado, and Iowa St all dropped their baseball programs.

 

[dirtboy068]

The NFL has less people feeding at the trough.

You can't see that Texas has 1/3 of the athletes of the entire NFL?

this isnt about whats FAIR to all the athletes this is what someone should BE ALLOWED TO make or earn.

 

[Red_Alert]

this isnt about whats FAIR to all the athletes this is what someone should BE ALLOWED TO make or earn.

I can only tell you this then you can carry on with your fantasy world where university athletic departments fart money.

They don't make near the profit you are alluding to once non-revenue generating sports are paid for. They cannot give advantage to one athlete over another or one sport over another at their university. It's federal law.

If football or basketball players want to get paid more than the cost of a scholarship and board after high school then they need to form semi-pro leagues.

 

[dirtboy068]

You are seriously as dim witted as they come.

Title 9 says you cannot SPEND more money on men's sports than women's sports. You will invest equal revenue in each. That's why there are more women's sports offered in colleges than men's. Because the cost of the football program (# of players) is so much more than other sports. When Title 9 LAW passed, they actually had to create women's sports to get the numbers right. Arizona created a women's rowing team IN THE DESERT. Men's sports had to be dropped. Wisconsin, Colorado, and Iowa St all dropped their baseball programs.

title 9 IX is not a road block by any means . look no further than the o'bannon case and what the judge had to say.

 

[dirtboy068]

I can only tell you this then you can carry on with your fantasy world where university athletic departments fart money.

They don't make near the profit you are alluding to once non-revenue generating sports are paid for. They cannot give advantage to one athlete over another or one sport over another at their university. It's federal law.

that's simply not true.

If football or basketball players want to get paid more than the cost of a scholarship and board after high school then they need to form semi-pro leagues.

actually they can wipe the money with their ass for fun with some of the money they're making.

 

[ElTexan]

Actually, the market says yes the coaches are worth way more.

There's no market. It's a monopoly, you ignorant bammer. The coaches have a market amongst themselves... but there is NO MARKET WHERE THE PLAYERS CAN SELL THEIR TALENTS FREELY. THAT'S THE POINT, YOU DUMB TRUCK!

 

[pabartl787]

There's no market. It's a monopoly, you ignorant bammer. The coaches have a market amongst themselves... but there is NO MARKET WHERE THE PLAYERS CAN SELL THEIR TALENTS FREELY. THAT'S THE POINT, YOU DUMB TRUCK!

Its called ametuerism

 

[4down20]

There's no market. It's a monopoly, you ignorant bammer. The coaches have a market amongst themselves... but there is NO MARKET WHERE THE PLAYERS CAN SELL THEIR TALENTS FREELY. THAT'S THE POINT, YOU DUMB TRUCK!

There is indeed a market and there are other options. That the college football route is the best option doesn't mean it's a monopoly.

They don't have to go to college to get to the NFL. It's just the best route.

 

[ElTexan]

Its called ametuerism

Just slapping a label on it doesn't imbue it with the essentials of the thing the label purports to represent.

It's a multi-billion dollar, elitely competitive industry where some of the participants are looking forward to trying to get to a highly paid position... that's not amateurism.

When one makes an amateur only league, it's precisely to just "keep it fun" and keep the " paid ringers" out of it because ringers would make it less fun. That is not CFB.

CFB has million dollar paid coaches and almost million dollar paid trainers in a multi-BILLION dollar industry out there not just to HAVE FUN... where [many of] the participants are trying to get to highly paid jobs in the same industry.

There is nothing AMATEUR about that.

Words and concepts mean something... use them correctly.

 

[pabartl787]

Just slapping a label on it doesn't imbue it with the essentials of the thing the label purports to represent.

It's a multi-billion dollar, elitely competitive industry where some of the participants are looking forward to trying to get to a highly paid position... that's not amateurism.

When one makes an amateur only league, it's precisely to just "keep it fun" and keep the " paid ringers" out of it because ringers would make it less fun. That is not CFB.

CFB has million dollar paid coaches and almost million dollar paid trainers in a multi-BILLION dollar industry out there not just to HAVE FUN... where [many of] the participants are trying to get to highly paid jobs in the same industry.

There is nothing AMATEUR about that.

Words and concepts mean something... use them correctly.

I did use it correctly you're just too stubborn to admit it.


amateurism - definition of amateurism by The Free Dictionary

"2. Sports An athlete who has never accepted money, or who accepts money under restrictions specified by a regulatory body, for participating in a competition."