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[SmokingMonkey]

No one asked for it, but it's late and I'm bored...

My favorite picks in your draft
Breece Hall - mid 6th rd, RB22 off the board

Allen Robinson - end of 9th, WR36!!!

Zach Ertz - undrafted...WTF, taysom fucking hill is rostered and Kyler's top RZ threat didn't. Sheesh, I've dropped plenty in my lifetime but I at least tried to make the catch

Bengals DST - end of 12th, DST9

Hurts or Rodgers in 8th as QB11 & 12, will tilt to Hurts since he's got QB1 overall potential which all top 10-12 QBs don't possess

 

[averagejoe]

Forgot to add that the draft took 6 days 14 hours 51 minutes.

 

[obxyankeefan]

No one asked for it, but it's late and I'm bored...

My favorite picks in your draft
Breece Hall - mid 6th rd, RB22 off the board

Allen Robinson - end of 9th, WR36!!!

Zach Ertz - undrafted...WTF, taysom fucking hill is rostered and Kyler's top RZ threat didn't. Sheesh, I've dropped plenty in my lifetime but I at least tried to make the catch

Bengals DST - end of 12th, DST9

Hurts or Rodgers in 8th as QB11 & 12, will tilt to Hurts since he's got QB1 overall potential which all top 10-12 QBs don't possess

As far as Hurts vs Rodgers, Rodgers is my back up. I figured Mahomes misses a couple of games each season, so why not have an emergency Aaron Rodgers in my pocket.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Here's the carnage of all 140 players based on the overall selection at each position:

Sel QB Player (20)
18 Josh Allen - BUF
22 Patrick Mahomes - KC
31 Justin Herbert - LAC
47 Lamar Jackson - BAL
48 Tom Brady - TB
61 Dak Prescott - DAL
64 Joe Burrow - CIN
66 Russell Wilson - DEN
69 Kyler Murray - ARI
72 Matthew Stafford - LAR
76 Jalen Hurts - PHI
79 Aaron Rodgers - GB
88 Kirk Cousins - MIN
106 Derek Carr - LV
107 Justin Fields - CHI
121 Tua Tagovailoa - MIA
130 Ryan Tannehill - TEN
136 Trey Lance - SF
137 Matt Ryan - IND
138 Daniel Jones - NYG

Sel RB Player (40)
1 Jonathan Taylor - IND
2 Derrick Henry - TEN
3 Austin Ekeler - LAC
4 Dalvin Cook - MIN
6 Najee Harris - PIT
7 Christian McCaffrey - CAR
8 Joe Mixon - CIN
11 Nick Chubb - CLE
15 Alvin Kamara - NO
19 Javonte Williams - DEN
21 D'Andre Swift - DET
24 Leonard Fournette - TB
27 Saquon Barkley - NYG
28 James Conner - ARI
29 Ezekiel Elliott - DAL
32 David Montgomery - CHI
35 Aaron Jones - GB
38 Josh Jacobs - LV
45 Cam Akers - LAR
50 Antonio Gibson - WAS
56 Breece Hall (R) - NYJ
59 Travis Etienne - JAX
65 Damien Harris - NE
67 Clyde Edwards-Helaire - KC
70 Elijah Mitchell - SF
71 J.K. Dobbins - BAL
73 James Cook (R) - BUF
80 Devin Singletary - BUF
84 A.J. Dillon - GB
92 Miles Sanders - PHI
93 Rashaad Penny - SEA
95 Tony Pollard - DAL
99 Chase Edmonds - MIA
103 Melvin Gordon - DEN
104 Alexander Mattison - MIN
109 Rhamondre Stevenson - NE
114 Ronald Jones - KC
116 Kenneth Walker III (R) - SEA
120 Michael Carter - NYJ
125 Isaiah Spiller (R) - LAC

Sel TE Player (12)
12 Travis Kelce - KC
17 Mark Andrews - BAL
25 Kyle Pitts - ATL
34 George Kittle - SF
58 Mike Gesicki - MIA
60 Darren Waller - LV
75 Dalton Schultz - DAL
82 T.J. Hockenson - DET
83 Dallas Goedert - PHI
112 Dawson Knox - BUF
131 Rob Gronkowski - (N/A)
133 Taysom Hill - NO

Sel WR Player (48)
5 Justin Jefferson - MIN
9 Cooper Kupp - LAR
10 Ja'Marr Chase - CIN
13 Deebo Samuel - SF
14 Davante Adams - LV
16 CeeDee Lamb - DAL
20 Stefon Diggs - BUF
23 Mike Evans - TB
26 Tyreek Hill - MIA
30 Keenan Allen - LAC
33 Cordarrelle Patterson - ATL
36 A.J. Brown - PHI
37 Tee Higgins - CIN
39 DK Metcalf - SEA
40 Jaylen Waddle - MIA
41 Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET
42 D.J. Moore - CAR
43 Michael Pittman - IND
44 Diontae Johnson - PIT
46 Terry McLaurin - WAS
49 Chris Godwin - TB
51 Mike Williams - LAC
52 Courtland Sutton - DEN
53 Brandin Cooks - HOU
54 Darnell Mooney - CHI
55 Amari Cooper - CLE
57 Michael Thomas - NO
62 Elijah Moore - NYJ
68 Adam Thielen - MIN
74 JuJu Smith-Schuster - KC
77 Marquise Brown - ARI
78 Tyler Lockett - SEA
81 DeVonta Smith - PHI
85 Gabriel Davis - BUF
86 Jerry Jeudy - DEN
87 Rashod Bateman - BAL
89 Christian Kirk - JAX
90 Allen Robinson - LAR
91 Robert Woods - TEN
101 Drake London (R) - ATL
108 DeAndre Hopkins - ARI
117 Brandon Aiyuk - SF
118 Chris Olave (R) - NO
122 Jameson Williams (R) - DET
123 Garrett Wilson (R) - NYJ
134 DeVante Parker - NE
135 Hunter Renfrow - LV
139 Jahan Dotson - WSH

Sel DST Player (10)
94 Dallas - DST
96 Tampa Bay - DST
97 Buffalo - DST
98 Pittsburgh - DST
100 New England - DST
110 New Orleans - DST
113 Baltimore - DST
115 Indianapolis - DST
119 Cincinnati - DST
129 San Francisco - DST

Sel K Player (10)
63 Justin Tucker - BAL
102 Evan McPherson - CIN
105 Matt Gay - LAR
111 Harrison Butker - KC
124 Tyler Bass - BUF
126 Daniel Carlson - LV
127 Chris Boswell - PIT
128 Nick Folk - NE
132 Ryan Succop - TB
140 Greg Joseph - MIN

On average the bench looks like, 1 QB 2 RB 1.8 WR .2 TE.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I will get the Defense scoring fixed today and this league will be put to bed until the season starts.

 

[TREFF]

Is this one
1 qb
2 rb
2 wr
Flex
Te
Dst
K

Or 3 wr, no flex? I can't recall the starting format.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Is this one
1 qb
2 rb
2 wr
Flex
Te
Dst
K

Or 3 wr, no flex? I can't recall the starting format.

3 WR no flex

 

[obxyankeefan]

@obxyankeefan this should link to the scoring

Fantasy Football League Settings - ESPN

Play ESPN Fantasy Football

fantasy.espn.com

Wouldn't let me in. Everything I dd with ESPN Fantasy says the league needs to be renewed before showing me any history.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I set it up with 10 points for points against and a drop each 7 points there after. Yards against also starts at 10 points with a 2 point drop every 100 yards after.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

As far as Hurts vs Rodgers, Rodgers is my back up. I figured Mahomes misses a couple of games each season, so why not have an emergency Aaron Rodgers in my pocket.

Both good values and if Rodgers pumps out a top 5 season with this cast, he's a legend among legends

 

[TREFF]

Ok then I'll give my unbiased, 3rd party analysis. And because today has nothing going on whatsoever in my world..I'll go deep.

Steal of the draft- Kenneth Walker, without question. Even if he's only the 1A or 1B in Seattle, with his talent in a run run run gameplan, will easily surpass 4-6 RB's taken before him, and that's assuming he's only as good as being the #2 back selected implies. If he turns out to be better..watch out.
A far second for the AROB pick. Woods leaves a TON of targets, and I ain't just talking about what he had last year, Woods typically got 120+ in that offense. Woods missed 7 games, and AROB is a better WR than Woods to begin with. Kupp owners are in for a rude awakening if they're expecting anything remotely close to last year.

Worst pick of the draft- a 3 way tie between D. Swift, Waddle and A. St. Brown..Barilko's #3, and his turn at 4-5.
Swift - point #1- J. Williams actually led Detriot in rush attempts, and this is standard, not PPR, and he's still there. Point #2- this offense is led by Goff, perhaps the worst of the true starting caliber QB's in the league. And, #3, with Aaron Jones, Zeke, Lenny, Barkley, Conners, Montgomery, Gibson, and heck, I'd even throw Hall, Walker, Sanders, Dobbins, and Mitchell in the mix..all available on the board, I'd take em all over Swift.
A. St. Brown- well, see above in reference to the Detriot offense and its QB. Now, St. Brown did end the year with 6 great games, averaged 95 yards 9 catches, and damned near a score a game, so i get the buy in. But, Detriot also drafted the only WR in this years class who, at least in my opinion, has a legit shot at being an alpha-type WR. Throwing St. Browns target share into a huge question mark. The doubling down on the Detriot offense just compounds the issue that much more.
Waddle- well it's Tua, who might be one notch below Goff, and they just scored Tyreek Hill. I think that's more than enough said.
*In regards to both of these WR picks on the turn-, DJ Moore, Pittman, McLaurin, Godwin, Cooper, and Mike Williams were all still on the board, tbh, I'd take the aforementioned Allen Robinson over either of them too.

Sorry Bar, but you are still my favorite Lil hockey hoser.

I'll go team by team after our big Sunday breakfast that I have to go get started.

 

[Barilko]

Wouldn't let me in. Everything I dd with ESPN Fantasy says the league needs to be renewed before showing me any history.

works for me ill copy it hang on

 

[Barilko]

 

[Barilko]

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Bet you guys didn't expect so much criticism from Treff and I since we didn't join the league, lol

Now I'll critique Treff's response

@TREFF - you'd take Godwin over viable options at WR in a league where you can't make transactions? That's insane, he won't even be cleared to take the field until mid-Oct, let alone be game ready

I like seeing Swift detractors cause a big portion of the fantasy community loves the kid, and its important to consider all outcomes. He was really good last yr before he got hurt, but agree his value is a lot greater in half for full ppr

 

[Barilko]

@obxyankeefan see the above posts for scoring and yes 2rb 3wr no flex

 

[Barilko]

Bet you guys didn't expect so much criticism from Treff and I since we didn't join the league, lol

Now I'll critique Treff's response

@TREFF - you'd take Godwin over viable options at WR in a league where you can't make transactions? That's insane, he won't even be cleared to take the field until mid-Oct, let alone be game ready

I like seeing Swift detractors cause a big portion of the fantasy community loves the kid, and its important to consider all outcomes. He was really good last yr before he got hurt, but agree his value is a lot greater in half for full ppr

ya both you boys would belong

 

[Barilko]

Ok then I'll give my unbiased, 3rd party analysis. And because today has nothing going on whatsoever in my world..I'll go deep.

Steal of the draft- Kenneth Walker, without question. Even if he's only the 1A or 1B in Seattle, with his talent in a run run run gameplan, will easily surpass 4-6 RB's taken before him, and that's assuming he's only as good as being the #2 back selected implies. If he turns out to be better..watch out.
A far second for the AROB pick. Woods leaves a TON of targets, and I ain't just talking about what he had last year, Woods typically got 120+ in that offense. Woods missed 7 games, and AROB is a better WR than Woods to begin with. Kupp owners are in for a rude awakening if they're expecting anything remotely close to last year.

Worst pick of the draft- a 3 way tie between D. Swift, Waddle and A. St. Brown..Barilko's #3, and his turn at 4-5.
Swift - point #1- J. Williams actually led Detriot in rush attempts, and this is standard, not PPR, and he's still there. Point #2- this offense is led by Goff, perhaps the worst of the true starting caliber QB's in the league. And, #3, with Aaron Jones, Zeke, Lenny, Barkley, Conners, Montgomery, Gibson, and heck, I'd even throw Hall, Walker, Sanders, Dobbins, and Mitchell in the mix..all available on the board, I'd take em all over Swift.
A. St. Brown- well, see above in reference to the Detriot offense and its QB. Now, St. Brown did end the year with 6 great games, averaged 95 yards 9 catches, and damned near a score a game, so i get the buy in. But, Detriot also drafted the only WR in this years class who, at least in my opinion, has a legit shot at being an alpha-type WR. Throwing St. Browns target share into a huge question mark. The doubling down on the Detriot offense just compounds the issue that much more.
Waddle- well it's Tua, who might be one notch below Goff, and they just scored Tyreek Hill. I think that's more than enough said.
*In regards to both of these WR picks on the turn-, DJ Moore, Pittman, McLaurin, Godwin, Cooper, and Mike Williams were all still on the board, tbh, I'd take the aforementioned Allen Robinson over either of them too.

Sorry Bar, but you are still my favorite Lil hockey hoser.

I'll go team by team after our big Sunday breakfast that I have to go get started.

well then ---- knowing im your fave hockey hoser makes it all better...

i got sniped by obx as javonte was my next pick at Swift from there i didnt want to own the others as i own them elsewhere

also if he stays on the field im banking on the ugly garbage time

same goes for doublA Brown as i own (elsewhere) the receivers that followed and trust me here i was grabbing Higgins when Tlance beat me to the punch

and now it is time for my annual steal of Chef's fave line...


Its Suicide I Tell Ya

 

[averagejoe]

Picks I liked:
Michael Thomas in the 6th.
Adam Thielen in the 7th.
Cam Akers in the 5th.
Stefon Diggs in the 2nd.

Picks I questioned:
Justin Jefferson as 1st WR off the board. Capitalized on Thielen being out. New coaching staff has to prove itself.
Cordarelle Patterson in the 4th. 31 years-old. Team is in rebuild. No Matty Ice to keep defenses in check.
Any rookie selected. There were 8. You can tout about Hall and Walker's situation all you want. But they are a part of sub-par offenses. They'd have to do really really well to make an impact in a standard scoring league on a bad offense, without a committee.
Taysom Hill - Lisfranc injuries tend to nag. Banking on him as your only TE is too risky.
Gronk - Will he rejoin the GOAT? Probably. But there's enough doubt to have considered another TE as insurance.
Justin Tucker in the 7th. Ok, sure they guy is one of the best. However, the difference between the best kicker and the 10th-best kicker was an average of 2.1 points per game which does not justify such an early selection. Plus, there were 6 kickers better than him in 2021.

Missing:
No one drafted Kareem Hunt.
Or as monkey pointed out, Zach Ertz. Sure he misses time, but he is a redzone target.
Jameis Winston - not even as a backup? All those weapons on the Saints he can rack up some decent yardage as a one-week fill-in.

 

[obxyankeefan]

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Got it and set it up as such.