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[averagejoe]

Yep that’s what it came down to. I even pestered Treff about it & he graciously humored me.

The LV WR depth chart doesn’t tell me that Renfrow’s snaps are going to decrease, but his target share certainly takes a hit. Being the 3rd option can be looked at 2 ways… Less targets, or Adam’s & Waller open things up underneath more. How it shakes out is hard to say. But a couple things are for sure: Vegas plays in an insane division that could see a lot of shootouts, and Carr trusts Renfrow the most.

I am old and sometimes my memory fails me. But i think the target magnet Waller missed some time last year. Renfrow could've capitalized on his absense. A healthy Waller could translate to a dip in Renfrow's production. Could? Or the staff may have been impressed, paid him, and plan to use him more.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I am old and sometimes my memory fails me. But i think the target magnet Waller missed some time last year. Renfrow could've capitalized on his absense. A healthy Waller could translate to a dip in Renfrow's production. Could? Or the staff may have been impressed, paid him, and plan to use him more.

I think youre right. And Waller has struggled with health IIRC. But you don’t shovel out $16m per year to someone you don’t think has a big role

 

[TREFF]

I am old and sometimes my memory fails me. But i think the target magnet Waller missed some time last year. Renfrow could've capitalized on his absense. A healthy Waller could translate to a dip in Renfrow's production. Could? Or the staff may have been impressed, paid him, and plan to use him more.

He did, he missed week 7, and 13-17, Renfrow definitely had an uptick in 2 of those 6 weeks, the other 4 were at or below what he averaged every other week. So, yes, but not really all that much.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Was also leaning Cole Kmet. Would have been accused as a homer pick, but other than Mooney, the only other familiar target is Kmet. He had almost 100 targets last season. Not too shabby.

That's my target in redraft this year if I miss out on that Goedert/Schultz/Ertz grouping

 

[averagejoe]

Sorry for the cross-talk. Without checking Fantrax, it sounded like the draft was over.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Sorry for the cross-talk. Without checking Fantrax, it sounded like the draft was over.

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I get to put a WR at QB and keep both Mahomes and Rodgers on the bench.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Someone let @MilkSpiller22 know he is OTC

 

[averagejoe]

Someone let @MilkSpiller22 know he is OTC

If we're taking bets, my guess is backup QB for his milkness.
Same for tlance.
Same for All-Star.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

If we're taking bets, my guess is backup QB for his milkness.
Same for tlance.
Same for All-Star.

Great… now you’ve opened the door for Milk to tell us why he thinks a backup kicker or TE is a better choice than a backup QB

 

[MilkSpiller22]

If we're taking bets, my guess is backup QB for his milkness.
Same for tlance.
Same for All-Star.

I was planning on getting a second defense. But couldn’t decide who. So gave up and went qb

 

[obxyankeefan]

@All-Star Bench Warmer OTC now

 

[averagejoe]

I was planning on getting a second defense. But couldn’t decide who. So gave up and went qb

Was kind of surprised no one grabbed the Rams. Especially after signing Donald.
But their defensive schedule is pretty brutal, playing against some strong offenses.

 

[molsaniceman]

Yeah, i was looking at you and @molsaniceman
You have zero TE and then you pick a guy who isnt even on a team!?!? Hope your sources are accurate.
As for molsan's pick of Hill, i actually considered him instead of my Dawson Knox pick, but recovering from those lysfranc injuries can be tricky.

i picked him cause he may end up their QB not likely but there is a chance

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

@obxyankeefan OTC

 

[obxyankeefan]

@Barilko to close it out

 

[Barilko]

and i hope not Mr Irrelevant Greg Joseph

 

[averagejoe]

Here's the final draft results.

First the grid.

 

[averagejoe]

Here's the carnage of all 140 players based on the overall selection at each position:

Sel QB Player (20)
18 Josh Allen - BUF
22 Patrick Mahomes - KC
31 Justin Herbert - LAC
47 Lamar Jackson - BAL
48 Tom Brady - TB
61 Dak Prescott - DAL
64 Joe Burrow - CIN
66 Russell Wilson - DEN
69 Kyler Murray - ARI
72 Matthew Stafford - LAR
76 Jalen Hurts - PHI
79 Aaron Rodgers - GB
88 Kirk Cousins - MIN
106 Derek Carr - LV
107 Justin Fields - CHI
121 Tua Tagovailoa - MIA
130 Ryan Tannehill - TEN
136 Trey Lance - SF
137 Matt Ryan - IND
138 Daniel Jones - NYG

Sel RB Player (40)
1 Jonathan Taylor - IND
2 Derrick Henry - TEN
3 Austin Ekeler - LAC
4 Dalvin Cook - MIN
6 Najee Harris - PIT
7 Christian McCaffrey - CAR
8 Joe Mixon - CIN
11 Nick Chubb - CLE
15 Alvin Kamara - NO
19 Javonte Williams - DEN
21 D'Andre Swift - DET
24 Leonard Fournette - TB
27 Saquon Barkley - NYG
28 James Conner - ARI
29 Ezekiel Elliott - DAL
32 David Montgomery - CHI
35 Aaron Jones - GB
38 Josh Jacobs - LV
45 Cam Akers - LAR
50 Antonio Gibson - WAS
56 Breece Hall (R) - NYJ
59 Travis Etienne - JAX
65 Damien Harris - NE
67 Clyde Edwards-Helaire - KC
70 Elijah Mitchell - SF
71 J.K. Dobbins - BAL
73 James Cook (R) - BUF
80 Devin Singletary - BUF
84 A.J. Dillon - GB
92 Miles Sanders - PHI
93 Rashaad Penny - SEA
95 Tony Pollard - DAL
99 Chase Edmonds - MIA
103 Melvin Gordon - DEN
104 Alexander Mattison - MIN
109 Rhamondre Stevenson - NE
114 Ronald Jones - KC
116 Kenneth Walker III (R) - SEA
120 Michael Carter - NYJ
125 Isaiah Spiller (R) - LAC

Sel TE Player (12)
12 Travis Kelce - KC
17 Mark Andrews - BAL
25 Kyle Pitts - ATL
34 George Kittle - SF
58 Mike Gesicki - MIA
60 Darren Waller - LV
75 Dalton Schultz - DAL
82 T.J. Hockenson - DET
83 Dallas Goedert - PHI
112 Dawson Knox - BUF
131 Rob Gronkowski - (N/A)
133 Taysom Hill - NO

Sel WR Player (48)
5 Justin Jefferson - MIN
9 Cooper Kupp - LAR
10 Ja'Marr Chase - CIN
13 Deebo Samuel - SF
14 Davante Adams - LV
16 CeeDee Lamb - DAL
20 Stefon Diggs - BUF
23 Mike Evans - TB
26 Tyreek Hill - MIA
30 Keenan Allen - LAC
33 Cordarrelle Patterson - ATL
36 A.J. Brown - PHI
37 Tee Higgins - CIN
39 DK Metcalf - SEA
40 Jaylen Waddle - MIA
41 Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET
42 D.J. Moore - CAR
43 Michael Pittman - IND
44 Diontae Johnson - PIT
46 Terry McLaurin - WAS
49 Chris Godwin - TB
51 Mike Williams - LAC
52 Courtland Sutton - DEN
53 Brandin Cooks - HOU
54 Darnell Mooney - CHI
55 Amari Cooper - CLE
57 Michael Thomas - NO
62 Elijah Moore - NYJ
68 Adam Thielen - MIN
74 JuJu Smith-Schuster - KC
77 Marquise Brown - ARI
78 Tyler Lockett - SEA
81 DeVonta Smith - PHI
85 Gabriel Davis - BUF
86 Jerry Jeudy - DEN
87 Rashod Bateman - BAL
89 Christian Kirk - JAX
90 Allen Robinson - LAR
91 Robert Woods - TEN
101 Drake London (R) - ATL
108 DeAndre Hopkins - ARI
117 Brandon Aiyuk - SF
118 Chris Olave (R) - NO
122 Jameson Williams (R) - DET
123 Garrett Wilson (R) - NYJ
134 DeVante Parker - NE
135 Hunter Renfrow - LV
139 Jahan Dotson - WSH

Sel DST Player (10)
94 Dallas - DST
96 Tampa Bay - DST
97 Buffalo - DST
98 Pittsburgh - DST
100 New England - DST
110 New Orleans - DST
113 Baltimore - DST
115 Indianapolis - DST
119 Cincinnati - DST
129 San Francisco - DST

Sel K Player (10)
63 Justin Tucker - BAL
102 Evan McPherson - CIN
105 Matt Gay - LAR
111 Harrison Butker - KC
124 Tyler Bass - BUF
126 Daniel Carlson - LV
127 Chris Boswell - PIT
128 Nick Folk - NE
132 Ryan Succop - TB
140 Greg Joseph - MIN

 

[Shanemansj13]

Here's the carnage of all 140 players based on the overall selection at each position:

Sel QB Player (20)
18 Josh Allen - BUF
22 Patrick Mahomes - KC
31 Justin Herbert - LAC
47 Lamar Jackson - BAL
48 Tom Brady - TB
61 Dak Prescott - DAL
64 Joe Burrow - CIN
66 Russell Wilson - DEN
69 Kyler Murray - ARI
72 Matthew Stafford - LAR
76 Jalen Hurts - PHI
79 Aaron Rodgers - GB
88 Kirk Cousins - MIN
106 Derek Carr - LV
107 Justin Fields - CHI
121 Tua Tagovailoa - MIA
130 Ryan Tannehill - TEN
136 Trey Lance - SF
137 Matt Ryan - IND
138 Daniel Jones - NYG

Sel RB Player (40)
1 Jonathan Taylor - IND
2 Derrick Henry - TEN
3 Austin Ekeler - LAC
4 Dalvin Cook - MIN
6 Najee Harris - PIT
7 Christian McCaffrey - CAR
8 Joe Mixon - CIN
11 Nick Chubb - CLE
15 Alvin Kamara - NO
19 Javonte Williams - DEN
21 D'Andre Swift - DET
24 Leonard Fournette - TB
27 Saquon Barkley - NYG
28 James Conner - ARI
29 Ezekiel Elliott - DAL
32 David Montgomery - CHI
35 Aaron Jones - GB
38 Josh Jacobs - LV
45 Cam Akers - LAR
50 Antonio Gibson - WAS
56 Breece Hall (R) - NYJ
59 Travis Etienne - JAX
65 Damien Harris - NE
67 Clyde Edwards-Helaire - KC
70 Elijah Mitchell - SF
71 J.K. Dobbins - BAL
73 James Cook (R) - BUF
80 Devin Singletary - BUF
84 A.J. Dillon - GB
92 Miles Sanders - PHI
93 Rashaad Penny - SEA
95 Tony Pollard - DAL
99 Chase Edmonds - MIA
103 Melvin Gordon - DEN
104 Alexander Mattison - MIN
109 Rhamondre Stevenson - NE
114 Ronald Jones - KC
116 Kenneth Walker III (R) - SEA
120 Michael Carter - NYJ
125 Isaiah Spiller (R) - LAC

Sel TE Player (12)
12 Travis Kelce - KC
17 Mark Andrews - BAL
25 Kyle Pitts - ATL
34 George Kittle - SF
58 Mike Gesicki - MIA
60 Darren Waller - LV
75 Dalton Schultz - DAL
82 T.J. Hockenson - DET
83 Dallas Goedert - PHI
112 Dawson Knox - BUF
131 Rob Gronkowski - (N/A)
133 Taysom Hill - NO

Sel WR Player (48)
5 Justin Jefferson - MIN
9 Cooper Kupp - LAR
10 Ja'Marr Chase - CIN
13 Deebo Samuel - SF
14 Davante Adams - LV
16 CeeDee Lamb - DAL
20 Stefon Diggs - BUF
23 Mike Evans - TB
26 Tyreek Hill - MIA
30 Keenan Allen - LAC
33 Cordarrelle Patterson - ATL
36 A.J. Brown - PHI
37 Tee Higgins - CIN
39 DK Metcalf - SEA
40 Jaylen Waddle - MIA
41 Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET
42 D.J. Moore - CAR
43 Michael Pittman - IND
44 Diontae Johnson - PIT
46 Terry McLaurin - WAS
49 Chris Godwin - TB
51 Mike Williams - LAC
52 Courtland Sutton - DEN
53 Brandin Cooks - HOU
54 Darnell Mooney - CHI
55 Amari Cooper - CLE
57 Michael Thomas - NO
62 Elijah Moore - NYJ
68 Adam Thielen - MIN
74 JuJu Smith-Schuster - KC
77 Marquise Brown - ARI
78 Tyler Lockett - SEA
81 DeVonta Smith - PHI
85 Gabriel Davis - BUF
86 Jerry Jeudy - DEN
87 Rashod Bateman - BAL
89 Christian Kirk - JAX
90 Allen Robinson - LAR
91 Robert Woods - TEN
101 Drake London (R) - ATL
108 DeAndre Hopkins - ARI
117 Brandon Aiyuk - SF
118 Chris Olave (R) - NO
122 Jameson Williams (R) - DET
123 Garrett Wilson (R) - NYJ
134 DeVante Parker - NE
135 Hunter Renfrow - LV
139 Jahan Dotson - WSH

Sel DST Player (10)
94 Dallas - DST
96 Tampa Bay - DST
97 Buffalo - DST
98 Pittsburgh - DST
100 New England - DST
110 New Orleans - DST
113 Baltimore - DST
115 Indianapolis - DST
119 Cincinnati - DST
129 San Francisco - DST

Sel K Player (10)
63 Justin Tucker - BAL
102 Evan McPherson - CIN
105 Matt Gay - LAR
111 Harrison Butker - KC
124 Tyler Bass - BUF
126 Daniel Carlson - LV
127 Chris Boswell - PIT
128 Nick Folk - NE
132 Ryan Succop - TB
140 Greg Joseph - MIN

I feel special. I took the only player without a team

 

[averagejoe]

The new guys may not get this joke:

But it looks like the Barbarians at the Gate have disbanded and gone into hiding.
Meanwhile, the Keepers of the Flame have lost 2 comrades as their quest to the Golden Mountain soldiers onward.