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Imagine all of these guys on the field at the same time:

RB: Kendall Hunter/LaMichael James
WR: A.J. Jenkins, Randy Moss, and Kyle Williams
TE: Vernon Davis

Put Colin Kaepernick under center and we could have one of the most dynamic offenses in the league.

The beauty of it is we can go physical, too.

RB: Frank Gore/Brandon Jacobs
WR: Michael Crabtree, Mario Manningham
TE: Vernon Davis, Nate Byham

Can't wait to see this offense in action.
 

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It has definitely been a long time since SF had speed on offense besides VD. (and Ted Ginn doesn't count)
 

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Agreed. It seems as though the plan was to get some speed on offense rather than to get physical football players early on in the draft. Hopefully it works out.
 

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Might as well be the only person to say it, but I think Alex Smith can make it one of the most dynamic offenses, too. We haven't seen him with these weapons, with this coaching staff, and with this system (full playbook, full off-season). I know it's a leap of faith and that I can't say based upon his past that this will happen. It's just my opinion. I think Alex is a slow bloomer who needs help. He's got help now and more confidence (2011 - Manning = net gain). I know I'm in the vast minority here, but my opinion is what it is.

There's potential with CK, as in he could, like you said, do it - I'm just not going to say or believe it'll happen until I see it in the pros. Not his fault, he can't do anything if they don't give him the chance. I'm not going to get into hype until he starts to show it and that won't happen until the coaches play him. Again, not his fault. I get annoyed by those who say he's just a backup or never will be the starter. I'll root for him and every other 49er QB, of course.
 

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Might as well be the only person to say it, but I think Alex Smith can make it one of the most dynamic offenses, too. We haven't seen him with these weapons, with this coaching staff, and with this system (full playbook, full off-season). I know it's a leap of faith and that I can't say based upon his past that this will happen. It's just my opinion. I think Alex is a slow bloomer who needs help. He's got help now and more confidence (2011 - Manning = net gain). I know I'm in the vast minority here, but my opinion is what it is.

There's potential with CK, as in he could, like you said, do it - I'm just not going to say or believe it'll happen until I see it in the pros. Not his fault, he can't do anything if they don't give him the chance. I'm not going to get into hype until he starts to show it and that won't happen until the coaches play him. Again, not his fault. I get annoyed by those who say he's just a backup or never will be the starter. I'll root for him and every other 49er QB, of course.

Well he definitely has the weapons to do it now. There are no excuses for him not to produce bigger numbers this year. If we stay healthy and if Kilgore is able to hold down the ORG spot, then our offense is looking good.
 

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The way I see Harbaugh and why I love him as a coach is that he understands and is a master of playing the mental chess game aspect of football.

His approach to strategy reminds me of Alexander the Great in that if you understand your opponent than you can understand how your opponent will attack and defend you and if you understand that than you can come up with a plan to counter it. The best example is the Giants regular season game when they were completely convinced we'd run Gore at them but since Harbaugh knew that's what they were counting on he came up with a pass heavy scheme to exploit them.

So with all that said it was clear the goal of the draft was to give Harbaugh and staff more pieces to play with. So to go back another war analogy instead of us just having heavy infantry we know have cavalry to work with as well.

If the defense is weak against speed than we'll go more speed and if it's weak against power we'll go more power and we'll mix it up to keep them off balanced.

Which is why I think anyone giving the draft anything under a B isn't seeing the big picture in that Baalke and Harbaugh have almost created an offense with no weaknesses and that can do anything it wants.
 

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Alex better be working on that arm of his.
 

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Speed that kills?

Ok Harbs, lets see what you got up your sleeve?
 

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The offense is going to be scary fast my only concern is the offensive line but I think Kilgore will suprise an lan the rg spot and be a beast.
 

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Might as well be the only person to say it, but I think Alex Smith can make it one of the most dynamic offenses, too. We haven't seen him with these weapons, with this coaching staff, and with this system (full playbook, full off-season). I know it's a leap of faith and that I can't say based upon his past that this will happen. It's just my opinion. I think Alex is a slow bloomer who needs help. He's got help now and more confidence (2011 - Manning = net gain). I know I'm in the vast minority here, but my opinion is what it is.

There's potential with CK, as in he could, like you said, do it - I'm just not going to say or believe it'll happen until I see it in the pros. Not his fault, he can't do anything if they don't give him the chance. I'm not going to get into hype until he starts to show it and that won't happen until the coaches play him. Again, not his fault. I get annoyed by those who say he's just a backup or never will be the starter. I'll root for him and every other 49er QB, of course.

Agreed. We've never seen Alex play with weapons like these. Looking forward to seeing more 3 WR sets and some spread formations going 4 or 5 wide.
 

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Agreed. We've never seen Alex play with weapons like these. Looking forward to seeing more 3 WR sets and some spread formations going 4 or 5 wide.

I think it's the season of "no more excuses." Rather than polarizing to one of the extremes, I've always been in the middle with Alex. He's a good kid, hard worker and seems to have the physical tools needed to be successful; maybe not elite, but successful. There have always been factors limiting his development/success. I think we can finally see what he's capable of, hopefully it ends with some 7lb shoulder presses.

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I posted too quickly to explain why I felt this would happen, other than gut feeling. A dynamic offense to me says an offense that is hard to stop in two ways - running game and passing game. With or without Alex, with or without CK, we have a great defense. With or without either, we have an "on paper" dynamic running personnel. Regardless of QB, we have a great TE and now we have weapons.

  • I assume Smith knows that he's gone if he doesn't take a few more risks.
  • He's been working on his fundamentals with someone who actually knows football. So is CK.
  • Alex is a mobile QB who didn't use his legs; I think this year there'll be an emphasis on that.
  • It seems that everyone is there participating, whereas in years past that wasn't the case.
  • We've addressed the oline a bit.
If Alex fails here, he'd fail anywhere. And I finally have a real world standard of failure. I no longer merely assume failure is losing record or more INTs than TDs. I now consider failure to improve and compete with the best as failure. I, of course, will take mitigating circumstances to evaluate. I just don't see any here, even if Moss doesn't pan out. I think any mitigating circumstance this year, either is something Alex could have fixed or something that is constant, in which Alex wouldn't fit. If Davis goes down, Alex needs to go to Walker, etc.
 
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Big thing Harbaugh did with Alex last year was give him designed running plays. I think those type of plays got Alex more involved into the game. It also assured him it was ok to run and not press to much to complete a pass down the field.

Most in the media seem to hate our pick of James, but I think its' the pick that will make the biggest impact next year. James gives us an option out of that backfield in the redzone that will be hard to defend. A screen pass or pass out to him in the flat where he just has to make one guy miss and it's a TD. He is also a threat to run a sweep or toss and surprise you up the middle. Gore was really only a threat between the tackles as he just does not have the speed to turn a pass or screen up the field. Also Gore struggled last year as a receiver out of the backfield.

The issue with the pick is that we had Hunter, but James and Hunter will not fill the same role in the offense. James is a big play threat and will see his playing time in the redzone and as a return specialist. Hunter is Gore's main backup for next year, and if Jacobs makes the roster he is insurance in case Gore gets hurt.
 

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Alex as dynamic as Kap? Lol.
 

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yep, it'll start the same place it always does.....QB.

next, the O-line needs to gel a little more, not so much individual improvement cause its a given, but reduce communication errors.

we all know a good defense can't stop an 'hot' offense. so no doubt the ratio of TD/FG needs to tilt TD's.
 

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Alex as dynamic as Kap? Lol.

Just giving a little push-back. If Kaep gets to his potential, I wouldn't doubt it. Just not taking the positives without the negatives. Just not assuming he'll get to his potential without assuming he would not. I assume eventually Kaep will get his turn. And we'll see.

Right now, the Kaep supporters and Kaep haters are filling in their imagination for what would happen and as you can see, if we're imagining as a Kaep enthusiast, we're going to see more dynamic than Alex. If we are Kaep haters, we'd fill in INTs and fumbles to say he's not ready. And we wouldn't see otherwise until Alex falters or gets injured.

It's like someone saying they would have been a doctor if he had just pursued it. Ignoring the fact that one could try chemistry and get a C+.

It might sound perposterous that Kaep could fail to realize his potential but it's there. So Alex may be more dynamic than Kaep. Not likely, but enough chance to make such a scoff unwarranted. Kaep certainly has the potential and he's a hard worker. We'll see.
 

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Might as well be the only person to say it, but I think Alex Smith can make it one of the most dynamic offenses, too. We haven't seen him with these weapons, with this coaching staff, and with this system (full playbook, full off-season). I know it's a leap of faith and that I can't say based upon his past that this will happen. It's just my opinion. I think Alex is a slow bloomer who needs help. He's got help now and more confidence (2011 - Manning = net gain). I know I'm in the vast minority here, but my opinion is what it is.

There's potential with CK, as in he could, like you said, do it - I'm just not going to say or believe it'll happen until I see it in the pros. Not his fault, he can't do anything if they don't give him the chance. I'm not going to get into hype until he starts to show it and that won't happen until the coaches play him. Again, not his fault. I get annoyed by those who say he's just a backup or never will be the starter. I'll root for him and every other 49er QB, of course.

I definitely agree that Smith is a slow bloomer and needs help, which seems to be the theme of the off-season. Add plenty of help to the passing game through WR additions.

I hope he can take advantage of what I think is easily the most talented group of WRs/TEs/RBs that he has had at his disposal as a 49ers QB. Along with a pretty good coaching staff, who may turn out to be the best of his career as well. (I would still put Norv above Roman/Harbaugh at this point, strictly offensively speaking.. just because Norv is a great coordinator, and his talent as an OC has won SuperBowls and worked a miracle in 2006.)
 

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yep, it'll start the same place it always does.....QB.

next, the O-line needs to gel a little more, not so much individual improvement cause its a given, but reduce communication errors.

we all know a good defense can't stop an 'hot' offense. so no doubt the ratio of TD/FG needs to tilt TD's.

Deep, I'm not sure what you mean by a good defense can't stop a 'hot' offense or how you're quantifying either "good" or "hot", but by interpretation of that statement I would have to say that good defenses stop hot offenses all the time.

In fact, some might argue we have a SB Ring to prove it. Just a thought.
 

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I'm optimistic that Alex will improve. It's basically his first time being in a legit NFL offense for two years running (I'm not going to count Jimmy Raye, and that only lasted a few games anyway). If he can become a little more aggressive and stretch the field a bit with his new outside weapons, this team can go far.

I don't know how high his ceiling is. Hopefully the work on his mechanics will pay dividends. He's got adequate arm strength, but he's got to his those long sideline throws or the additions won't matter much. Our first two picks offer a lot of scheme diversity. I really hope we take advantage of it. We shall see, but I'm going to be positive until I see a reason not to be.
 
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