Sportshoopla Poll Week 13 DISCUSSION thread

[Chewbaccer]

Edit:

UAB out. SMU up to 24 and Auburn to 25.

If you don't care, could you post a new poll? It makes it easier to add up the results.

 

[Yo Tee]

1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Georgia
5. Florida
6. Minnesota
7. Alabama
8. Oklahoma
9. Utah
10. Baylor
11. Auburn
12. Penn State
13. Wisconsin
14. Michigan
15. Notre Dame
16. Oregon
17. Memphis
18. Cincinnati
19. Iowa
20. Boise State
21. Appalachian State
22. Oklahoma State
23. USC
24. Navy
25. Virginia Tech

Minnesota above Alabama? What's the reasoning there? Oregon all the way down to 16th? 3-loss Auburn at 11? Who has Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech defeated to be ranked?

 

[Yo Tee]

If you don't care, could you post a new poll? It makes it easier to add up the results.

You got it!

 

[ericd7633]

Why, because of the facepalm ratings? You've done your fairshare as well so the floor is yours as well.

I've given 30 facepalms. If you've gotten one you deserved it. Plus, I don't recall facepalming you in a while if ever.

 

[Across The Field]

I've given 30 facepalms. If you've gotten one you deserved it. Plus, I don't recall facepalming you in a while if ever.

You deserve one here. Florida at 5th??

 

[Chewbaccer]

01. Ohio State Buckeyes (11-0)
02. Clemson Tigers (11-0)
03. L.S.U. Tigers (11-0)
04. Alabama Crimson Tide (10-1)
05. Utah Utes (10-1)
06. Oklahoma Sooners (10-1)
07. Wisconsin Badgers (9-2)
08. Michigan Wolverines (9-2)
09. Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-2)
10. Oregon Ducks (9-2)
11. Boise State Broncos (10-1)
12. Cincinnati Bearcats (10-1)
13. Minnesota Golden Gophers (10-1)
14. Penn State Nittany Lions (9-2)
15. Baylor Bears (10-1)
16. Memphis Tigers (10-1)
17. App. State Mountaineers (10-1)
18. Florida Gators (9-2)
19. Auburn Tigers (8-3)
20. Iowa Hawkeyes (8-3)
21. Oklahoma State Cowboys (8-3)
22. Virginia Tech Hokies (8-3)
23. U.S.C. Trojans (8-4)
24. Iowa State Cyclones (7-4)
25. Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns (9-2)

1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Georgia
5. Alabama
6. Utah
7. Oklahoma
8. Minnesota
9. Florida
10. Baylor
11. Oregon
12. Michigan
13. Penn State
14. Notre Dame
15. Memphis
16. Wisconsin
17. Iowa
18. Cincinnati
19. Boise State
20. App State
21. Navy
22. Air Force
23. Louisiana
24. UAB
25. SMU

@Edisto_Tiger if you don't care, could you move these two polls over here? Posters made new polls, and I don't want to accidentally add invalid polls to the total.

 

[Yo Tee]

I've given 30 facepalms. If you've gotten one you deserved it. Plus, I don't recall facepalming you in a while if ever.

Peach Bowl: (1) LSU vs. (4) Alabama
Fiesta Bowl: (2) Ohio State vs. (3) Clemson

Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Memphis
Orange Bowl: Georgia vs. Virginia
Rose Bowl: Utah vs. Minnesota
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs. Baylor

Didn't like this for some reason.

 

[ericd7633]

Minnesota above Alabama? What's the reasoning there? Oregon all the way down to 16th? 3-loss Auburn at 11? Who has Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech defeated to be ranked?

Minnesota's beaten PSU. It's not much but better than Bama. Oregon has done nothing. Who should they be ranked ahead of? All the other two loss teams have better wins/better losses. Auburn has a win over Oregon and 3 losses to top 10 teams. 20-25 isn't worth discussing because all the teams suck at that point. But I'm going to rank a 3 loss VT or Oklahoma State over a 2 loss G5 school.

 

[ericd7633]

Didn't like this for some reason.

I honestly didn't even know I did that. I took it back. Must have happened while scrolling through.

 

[ericd7633]

You deserve one here. Florida at 5th??

Yeah, only team I would put ahead is probably Minnesota. Utah hasn't beaten anyone, OU has looked shaky, Bama hasn't beaten anyone. 2 losses to the top 4 teams.

 

[Yo Tee]

Minnesota's beaten PSU. It's not much but better than Bama. Oregon has done nothing. Who should they be ranked ahead of? All the other two loss teams have better wins/better losses. Auburn has a win over Oregon and 3 losses to top 10 teams. 20-25 isn't worth discussing because all the teams suck at that point. But I'm going to rank a 3 loss VT or Oklahoma State over a 2 loss G5 school.

Minnesota has lost to Iowa, much worse than Bama. Minnesota has also struggled to beat South Dakota State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern and Purdue. Their first 4 wins were all by either a FG or a TD. Aside from LSU, the best team in the country, Bama has only let one team get within 20 points of them.

Oregon should be at least in the top 15. The way Wisconsin has looked, Oregon should be ahead of them even with that loss last week. Arguably, Oregon should be ahead of Notre Dame as well.

Can't argue with you about 20-25 though.

 

[Across The Field]

Yeah, only team I would put ahead is probably Minnesota. Utah hasn't beaten anyone, OU has looked shaky, Bama hasn't beaten anyone. 2 losses to the top 4 teams.

Barely beat a horrible Miami team after a late comeback, needed a miracle 4th quarter comeback vs. Kentucky. This is the 5th best team in the entire nation?

 

[Chewbaccer]

Barely beat a horrible Miami team after a late comeback, needed a miracle 4th quarter comeback vs. Kentucky. This is the 5th best team in the entire nation?

To be fair, they have been a very different team since Feleipe Franks went down. Hate to see anyone get seriously injured, but that was the best thing that happened to them this season.

 

[ericd7633]

Minnesota has lost to Iowa, much worse than Bama. Minnesota has also struggled to beat South Dakota State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern and Purdue. Their first 4 wins were all by either a FG or a TD. Aside from LSU, the best team in the country, Bama has only let one team get within 20 points of them.

Oregon should be at least in the top 15. The way Wisconsin has looked, Oregon should be ahead of them even with that loss last week. Arguably, Oregon should be ahead of Notre Dame as well.

Can't argue with you about 20-25 though.

Yeah Minnesota played bad at the beginning of the year no doubt. But they've looked good the last 5 weeks. Losing by 4 at Iowa isn't a bad loss. It is worse than the Bama loss, but Bama also doesn't have a win against anyone as good as PSU though either.

I don't think Oregon has looked all that great outside of the USC game. And now they have a bad loss to go with no great wins. All those 2 loss teams have better resumes too when combining wins/losses.

To compare them with ND

ND wins: USC; ND losses: UM, UGA
Oregon wins: USC; Oregon losses: ASU, Auburn

Plus Oregon has nothing else after beating SC.

 

[Across The Field]

To be fair, they have been a very different team since Feleipe Franks went down. Hate to see anyone get seriously injured, but that was the best thing that happened to them this season.

That's fair, but still. Top 5? I don't see how they've earned it at all.

 

[Chewbaccer]

That's fair, but still. Top 5? I don't see how they've earned it at all.

There's way too many 1 loss teams for them to be top 5, but I have no issue with them being the top ranked 2 loss team.

 

[ericd7633]

Barely beat a horrible Miami team after a late comeback, needed a miracle 4th quarter comeback vs. Kentucky. This is the 5th best team in the entire nation?

Yeah they weren't good early on. Who do you want me to put 5th? A Minnesota team that was more horrible the first month of the season? A Utah team with NO good wins? OU who's looked sketchy the past month, or some other 2 loss team? There isn't much difference between like #4 and #12/13ish.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

There's way too many 1 loss teams for them to be top 5, but I have no issue with them being the top ranked 2 loss team.

I think even for the 2 loss teams there's much better ones out there

Wisconsin blowing out Michigan and likewise Michigan blowout out Notre Dame are much more impressive than anything Florida has done

 

[Across The Field]

There's way too many 1 loss teams for them to be top 5, but I have no issue with them being the top ranked 2 loss team.

I don't see how you put them ahead of michigan, Wisconsin, or Penn State. All 3 of them have better wins.

 

[Across The Field]

Yeah they weren't good early on. Who do you want me to put 5th? A Minnesota team that was more horrible the first month of the season? A Utah team with NO good wins? OU who's looked sketchy the past month, or some other 2 loss team? There isn't much difference between like #4 and #12/13ish.

Minnesota has fewer losses and a better win. I think they're definitely more deserving. michigan has looked better than Florida for the past month I'd say. Oklahoma also has fewer losses and a better win.