Soon to be Hall of Famer - Eli Manning

[DirtDirtDirt]

We are not talking about total yards. Obviously guys that play more games will have the stats. Brady has set records for most consecutive throws w/o an int and also has 300 now in road games. I prefer a QB that doesn't cough it up. Brees is real good but he has a tendency to force throws. Favre was the same way his whole career

Brees has also had to overcome one of the worst defenses we may ever see, during the course of his career

There may not be another QB ever that has lost as many games when he throws up 30+ points as Drew Brees

Im surprised he hasnt Sonny Blacked a defensive player or 2 during his time there

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Maybe we can blame fantasy for guys using passing yards to determine a QB's Hall of Fame worthiness.

I agree, Stats and Super Bowl wins should be ignored when evaluating QB's

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

If your take from all this is I believe the QBs from years past are equal or better than all the QBs of this era I think we have identified who the retard is.

Later.

Later idiot

 

[NEPatsfan]

I agree, Stats and Super Bowl wins should be ignored when evaluating QB's

Shouldn't be ignored, they should be properly weighted, something that seems to confuse you.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Giants fans probably think Eli is better than his brother because he has more rings.

Eli doesn't have more rings than Peyton.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Brees has also had to overcome one of the worst defenses we may ever see, during the course of his career

There may not be another QB ever that has lost as many games when he throws up 30+ points as Drew Brees

Im surprised he hasnt Sonny Blacked a defensive player or 2 during his time there

Listen I respect the shit out of Brees, and not dissing him or his W-L record because obviously of his team, I was just talking about t/o's. Peyton won the SB last year o tds 2 t/o's like a .50 rating and 13 3 and outs in a row but Denver won , sometimes a D can overcome deficiences on offense

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Shouldn't be ignored, they should be properly weighted, something that seems to confuse you.

Confuse me?

He will be in the HOF, I dont even know if I completely agree with it

But this entire morning crusade you have been on, will be proven 100% completely wrong

And Im confused

LOL

 

[NEPatsfan]

Eli doesn't have more rings than Peyton.

and visa versa


But little Peyton having the same amount doesn't make him a HoF like Big Peyton.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Eli doesn't have more rings than Peyton.

They only pay attention to Tom Brady

Cut em a break

 

[CowboyB]

Shouldn't be ignored, they should be properly weighted, something that seems to confuse you.

On some days Dirt can seem like a very intelligent person. Then you get him talking about Eli Manning or the Yankees and all of that gets thrown out and you realize his emotions prevent him from making rational and logic statements.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Listen I respect the shit out of Brees, and not dissing him or his W-L record because obviously of his team, I was just talking about t/o's. Peyton won the SB last year o tds 2 t/o's like a .50 rating and 13 3 and outs in a row but Denver won , sometimes a D can overcome deficiences on offense

No doubt, Peyton was the biggest hurdle for Denver actually winning the SB last season

 

[DJ Fieri]

Maybe we can blame fantasy for guys using passing yards to determine a QB's Hall of Fame worthiness.

Yards and TD's. Not YPA, fewer INT's (because those that can you cost you a win), and completion %.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

On some days Dirt can seem like a very intelligent person. Then you get him talking about Eli Manning or the Yankees and all of that gets thrown out and you realize his emotions prevent him from making rational and logic statements.

The Cubs and Pats now

Yup, not a fraud at all

 

[NEPatsfan]

Confuse me?

He will be in the HOF, I dont even know if I completely agree with it

But this entire morning crusade you have been on, will be proven 100% completely wrong

And Im confused

LOL

How will I be proven wrong? I never said he wouldn't get in, I said that I don't think he deserves it.

Your reading comp sucks eli balls.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Yards and TD's. Not YPA, fewer INT's (because those that can you cost you a win), and completion %.

Im perfectly fine with comparing Eli to QB's of this or any other era, that are comparable, and in many cases much better

But when you start tossing around Jim Plunkett and Trent Dilfer, when the numbers are so egregiously different, than we are getting silly

And his turnovers or completion % dont close the gap enough to make the comparison

 

[DJ Fieri]

I agree, Stats and Super Bowl wins should be ignored when evaluating QB's

Dan Marino sucks, huh? Because, he never won one.....

 

[Mondo Jay]

and visa versa


But little Peyton having the same amount doesn't make him a HoF like Big Peyton.

I think Eli will play several more years (compiling more stats) and probably eventually get into the HOF. Or not.

 

[CowboyB]

The Cubs and Pats now

Yup, not a fraud at all

I keep real. The Cubs are an amazing team and I look forward to the rivalry with the Cardinals as long as the Cardinals stop doing nothing to get better outside of player development.

I haven't said a damn good thing about the Patriots..you just see it that way because I didn't say Eli is the awesomest. That is very Rockless of you..

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

How will I be proven wrong? I never said he wouldn't get in, I said that I don't think he deserves it.

Your reading comp sucks eli balls.

the first thing i responded to you today was that he wasnt getting in

 

[DJ Fieri]

Shouldn't be ignored, they should be properly weighted, something that seems to confuse you.

This. For the majority of his career Eli had a far better defense than Marino ever did.