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I'm not sure how anyone could support Ngata being traded for, or pretend he's still good.

But more power to ya.

Our defense must must be suffering due to a lack of Seisay.

Its suffering from Lack of Levy. And believe it or not George Johnson
 

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How do you only barely notice 100+ tackles per season?

12 LBs finished w over 120 tackles last season. Levy was not special.
 

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Its suffering from Lack of Levy. And believe it or not George Johnson

Dude, you're crediting average guys who do nothing special.
 

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100 tackles by a LB is like 1000 yards by a RB. You expect it.
 

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Fine, but there are still only 10% in the league that had more

In 2013 21 LB had more tackles than Levy. In 2011 he finished 18th. I just said 12 backers had 120 tackles or more that year.
 

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Prolly put Martha on hold, so I could make one last push with HN's agent.


#leavinghislegacy

His legacy to me will be that he spent the last two years trying to save his job, instead of doing what was best for the organization.
 

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In 2013 21 LB had more tackles than Levy. In 2011 he finished 18th.

it still qualifies as very good and he was obviously getting better every year. (21+18) to 13.
 

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It still qualifies as very good and he was obviously getting better every year. 21,18 13.

He actually finished 2nd in tackles last year. But it shows he's easily replaceable, or was, with that line. Had we kept the line in tact, Levy could have walked and we wouldn't have missed a beat. Same reason we didn't miss Tulloch.
 

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He actually finished 2nd in tackles last year. But it shows he's easily replaceable, or was, with that line. Had we kept the line in tact, Levy could have walked and we wouldn't have missed a beat. Same reason we didn't miss Tulloch.

Disagree. We did not miss Tulloch because Bynes is actually better than him. He is our best overall LB. Tulloch makes a lot of tackles but misses a lot too and cant cover worth a shit.

What we are missing more than anything is LBs. Besides Bynes, all we have is Whitehead who is just solid. the rest are liabilities in one way or another (or all ways if his name is travis lewis).

Also, Jason Jones has fallen off a cliff and we have no speed rusher at DE anymore.
 

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Disagree. We did not miss Tulloch because Bynes is actually better than him. He is our best overall LB. Tulloch makes a lot of tackles but misses a lot too and cant cover worth a shit.

What we are missing more than anything is LBs. Besides Bynes, all we have is Whitehead who is just solid. the rest are liabilities in one way or another (or all ways if his name is travis lewis).

Also, Jason Jones has fallen off a cliff and we have no speed rusher at DE anymore.

Josh Bynes had 22 tackles last year. We didn't miss Tulloch last year when Whitehead subbed for him cause our D line was elite.

I agree we need a complete overhaul of our LB corps, regardless of who may or may not have been god before blowing out his hip.
 

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Josh Bynes had 22 tackles last year. We didn't miss Tulloch last year when Whitehead subbed for him cause our D line was elite.

I agree we need a complete overhaul of our LB corps, regardless of who may or may not have been god before blowing out his hip.

Agreed. We could probably use a DT too. Cant believe you missed that.:heh:
 

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In many ways, Levy's injury is the best thing that could have happened it him. He got paid, gets a free pass this year from fans, and he'll always have a built in excuse if he sucks moving forward, coming off a hip injury so late in his career.

"Levy would have been a star if not for that hip injury, he was awesome in 2014." - Levy's Lion fan legacy
 
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