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Fairley was playing pretty well until he got hurt in 2014 he wasn't getting flashy sack numbers but he was doing his job controlling his gaps and collapsing the pocket on passing downs. He is a better player than anything we currently have at DT.

Donald is a phenomenal DT, but his numbers look a lot better because of how much Greg Williams blitzes. If we had him in Austins system he would still be the same player, but probably without the flashy stats and many of the fans clamoring for him would probably be calling him a bust.
 

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I kept hearing she spoke with Goddell in England. Now they're saying she was speaking with him about the research services for new GM's. Never trust media, but that would tell me she had these intentions a week or more ago.

She didn't want to make the move a few days before the trade deadline. Makes a lot of sense.
 

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She didn't want to make the move a few days before the trade deadline. Makes a lot of sense.

Plus she had to get her ducks in a row temp replacing the guys who were fired. That takes time.
 

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Fairley was playing pretty well until he got hurt in 2014 he wasn't getting flashy sack numbers but he was doing his job controlling his gaps and collapsing the pocket on passing downs. He is a better player than anything we currently have at DT.

Winner.

Donald is a phenomenal DT, but his numbers look a lot better because of how much Greg Williams blitzes. If we had him in Austins system he would still be the same player, but probably without the flashy stats and many of the fans clamoring for him would probably be calling him a bust.

Mayhew wasn't the master designer of our D line anyway, Schwartz was. Probably didn't even have Donald on his board.
 

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Levy's contract will prove to be Mayhew's last great fuck up in a year where he fucked up a lot, losing Suh, failing to pick up Fairley's 5th year, and getting goaded into taking Ngata off the Ravens hands. Everything Schwartz did over his time here that helped us build an identity, Mayhew destroyed in one off season. And it cost him his job.

Actually, dont be surprised if it comes out that it was Levy's contract more than any of those. The others are more your bias then reality. Fairly is not worth anything close to what his option would be. Suh is not worth 20 mil although MM handling of the situation was amateurish. NGata has gotten pretty good reviews. I dont agree with them as he was less than average IMO and not someone I would give 8 mil a year to. He has been better the last couple games though. Shwartz was a buffoon. That schtick might work for 1 season, but will not over the long haul. That is DC style material only. A HC has to be more controlled and cerebral.
 

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Actually, dont be surprised if it comes out that it was Levy's contract more than any of those. The others are more your bias then reality.

I'd flip it. Levy was just an average player who had no business being re-upped until we could see what he could do without the leagues best line in front of him (which is nothing, just like he did before Ansah came along).

Fairley is still better than Ngata and the rest of the scrubs playing for us this year.
 

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I'd flip it. Levy was just an average player who had no business being re-upped until we could see what he could do without the leagues best line in front of him (which is nothing, just like he did before Ansah came along).

Fairley is still better than Ngata and the rest of the scrubs playing for us this year.

In no way shape or form is Fairly better than NGata. Even in his advanced years NGata is still better. Fairly has not even proven he has recovered or will recover from the injury.

As far as Levy you are way off. He did not play at all this year so I don't get where you are coming up with he did nothing without the line. He also had 2 great years before last year when the D-line did not do so great.
 

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In no way shape or form is Fairly better than NGata. Even in his advanced years NGata is still better. Fairly has not even proven he has recovered or will recover from the injury.

As far as Levy you are way off. He did not play at all this year so I don't get where you are coming up with he did nothing without the line. He also had 2 great years before last year when the D-line did not do so great.
Wrong.
 

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Ngata is worthless.

Doesn't practice, got tired of hearing bout how that was an issue with other players. Tired of not hearing it when it comes to this fat has been.
 

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In no way shape or form is Fairly better than NGata. Even in his advanced years NGata is still better. Fairly has not even proven he has recovered or will recover from the injury.

As far as Levy you are way off. He did not play at all this year so I don't get where you are coming up with he did nothing without the line. He also had 2 great years before last year when the D-line did not do so great.

Levy's best year was 2014. Made second team All-Pro and ranked 59 of 100 best NFL players. No other awards to speak of before that.
 

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Ngata is worthless.

Doesn't practice, got tired of hearing bout how that was an issue with other players. Tired of not hearing it when it comes to this fat has been.

Fairly is still worse. Ngata has already played 2 good games this year. Fairly zero. Fairly had 9 decent games in 4 years. He has shown next to nothing most of his career with only flashes of what a first round pick can do
 

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Ngata is worthless.

Doesn't practice, got tired of hearing bout how that was an issue with other players. Tired of not hearing it when it comes to this fat has been.

Ngata never wanted to be here. Can't wait to leave.
 

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Fairly is still worse. Ngata has already played 2 good games this year. Fairly zero. Fairly had 9 decent games in 4 years. He has shown next to nothing most of his career with only flashes of what a first round pick can do

Nah, Fairley had an incredible motor, played hard. Ngata is just collecting a paycheck out there.
 

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At least Mayhew got fired before he could tie him up long term.

Ngata wasn't gonna re up here. I'm sure Mayhew tried his best tho.
 

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Levy's best year was 2014. Made second team All-Pro and ranked 59 of 100 best NFL players. No other awards to speak of before that.

Could not care less about awards. That is just other peoples opinions. He had 120 tackles and 6b INTs in 2013 and over 100 tackles and 3 TOs in 2011. Was on the same pace in 2012 before getting injured.
 

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Fairly is still worse. Ngata has already played 2 good games this year. Fairly zero. Fairly had 9 decent games in 4 years. He has shown next to nothing most of his career with only flashes of what a first round pick can do
I'm not sure how anyone could support Ngata being traded for, or pretend he's still good.

But more power to ya.

Our defense must must be suffering due to a lack of Seisay.
 

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Could not care less about awards. That is just other peoples opinions. He had 120 tackles and 6b INTs in 2013 and over 100 tackles and 3 TOs in 2011. Was on the same pace in 2012 before getting injured.

The NFL players vote on the top 100. Levy is just a guy, buddy. I know you love him cause he's a Lion, but if he plays anywhere else you barely notice him.
 

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Ngata never wanted to be here. Can't wait to leave.

Ngata is doing what many players have done over the last fifteen years. Go to hell to get paid more than you could have playing anywhere else.
 

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The NFL players vote on the top 100. Levy is just a guy, buddy. I know you love him cause he's a Lion, but if he plays anywhere else you barely notice him.

How do you only barely notice 100+ tackles per season?
 
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