So who wins the SB

[cdumler7]

Come on dude, you have to do better than that.

Better than the crap you spewed saying Wilson just won the NFC...no the Seahawks with their #1 defense and marshawn lynch going for big yards won the NFC not Wilson

 

[Itsmytime]

Better than the crap you spewed saying Wilson just won the NFC...no the Seahawks with their #1 defense and marshawn lynch going for big yards won the NFC not Wilson

Yes, because if this team still had Matt Flynn or hell even Jackson starting. They would be in the Super Bowl.

 

[CaptainStubing]

Honestly, I think Rivers played better this year than Wilson. And both Wilson and Rivers played better than Brady.

Agreed sonny. Rivers had a great year. However, the chargers don't have the oline and running back the Seahawks have so to assume the broncos will be able to defend Wilson as well as rivers is incorrect. The broncos are going to be paying a lot more attention to stopping the run in this one which may open up some things in the passing game, which just wasnt there for rivers to work with.

 

[STBR 27]

Better than the crap you spewed saying Wilson just won the NFC...no the Seahawks with their #1 defense and marshawn lynch going for big yards won the NFC not Wilson

Now you are getting into the spirit, let the hate flow through you!

 

[Broncos6482]

Agreed sonny. Rivers had a great year. However, the chargers don't have the oline and running back the Seahawks have so to assume the broncos will be able to defend Wilson as well as rivers is incorrect. The broncos are going to be paying a lot more attention to stopping the run in this one which may open up some things in the passing game, which just wasnt there for rivers to work with.

That's not really accurate though. When the Chargers beat us late in the season, they did it by running the ball and controlling the clock. They came in the playoff game with the same gameplan, while Denver came in focused on stopping the run. It wasn't until Chris Harris went out with injury and the Chargers were in desperation mode that the passing game opened up for them.

 

[CaptainStubing]

That's not really accurate though. When the Chargers beat us late in the season, they did it by running the ball and controlling the clock. They came in the playoff game with the same gameplan, while Denver came in focused on stopping the run. It wasn't until Chris Harris went out with injury and the Chargers were in desperation mode that the passing game opened up for them.

if the broncos coaches actually think the chargers o-line and running back are on the same level as the hawks o-line and running back and don't adjust accordingly, it will be a long night for them. But I doubt they think that.

 

[Broncos6482]

if the broncos coaches actually think the chargers o-line and running back are on the same level as the hawks o-line and running back and don't adjust accordingly, it will be a long night for them. But I doubt they think that.

My point was the Broncos can't focus on stopping the run more because that's been the defensive focus the last two games.

 

[ram29jackson]

Just did some more analysis regarding this game and no matter how I compute the data does Seattle win.

Trust me, if you like to make money and you don't mind rooting for the greatest QB in a half century.......bet the farm on the Broncos.

Knowshon Moreno will have more rushing yards than Marshawn Lynch.

what are you doing? what numbers are you crunching,how are you crunching them ?
doing something with an excel sheet ?

 

[CaptainStubing]

My point was the Broncos can't focus on stopping the run more because that's been the defensive focus the last two games.

oh, ok. yes, that was definitely their focus going into the chargers game and they shut them down.

however, it may have been their game plan going into the pats game but it was obvious very early that the pats offensive game plan was to pass the ball a lot and the broncos adjusted so they weren't in a 'stop the run at all costs' defense during most of that game.

regardless, my main point was that if the broncos were able to contain the chargers running game with 7 guys, for example, it's going to take 8 guys to stop the hawks running game because the hawks running game is that much better than the chargers. If they think they can contain the hawks running game with the same game plan as the chargers game, it will be a long night for them.

 

[CaptainStubing]

what are you doing? what numbers are you crunching,how are you crunching them ?
doing something with an excel sheet ?

no, when he says 'compute the data', he is putting on a blindfold and throwing a dart. from what i have seen about his 'predictions' on this board, the guy is right about 50% of the time, just like any other monkey can do.

 

[Broncos6482]

oh, ok. yes, that was definitely their focus going into the chargers game and they shut them down.

however, it may have been their game plan going into the pats game but it was obvious very early that the pats offensive game plan was to pass the ball a lot and the broncos adjusted so they weren't in a 'stop the run at all costs' defense during most of that game.

I don't agree with that. I think the Patriots tried to mix it up, but the Broncos were so good at stopping the run and the Patriots got behind and then had to really abandon it.

regardless, my main point was that if the broncos were able to contain the chargers running game with 7 guys, for example, it's going to take 8 guys to stop the hawks running game because the hawks running game is that much better than the chargers. If they think they can contain the hawks running game with the same game plan as the chargers game, it will be a long night for them.

That's true, but the Chargers are also much better at passing the ball than the Seahawks are. And Lynch is great at wearing down a defense and really being effective in the 4th quarter, even when he's been held relatively in check for the rest of the game.

I think a perfect scenario for Denver would be much the same as it has been in the playoffs: stop the run, get ahead by enough that the Seahawks are forced to go to the air and Lynch doesn't get the chance to wear them down on the ground.

 

[CaptainStubing]

I don't agree with that. I think the Patriots tried to mix it up, but the Broncos were so good at stopping the run and the Patriots got behind and then had to really abandon it.

were you watching the same game i was? the patriots were passing heavily right from play one of the game. in the first half, they passed 18 times and ran only 8 times. that is not balanced at all. by the time they got the ball in the 2nd half, they were then down 20-3 and obviously had to keep passing.

 

[STBR 27]

were you watching the same game i was? the patriots were passing heavily right from play one of the game. in the first half, they passed 18 times and ran only 8 times. that is not balanced at all. by the time they got the ball in the 2nd half, they were then down 20-3 and obviously had to keep passing.

Shhh, don't tell him, he thinks the Denver run defense is so good that it forced NE to throw.

 

[Midnightangel]

Shhh, don't tell him, he thinks the Denver run defense is so good that it forced NE to throw.

Almost as funny as Seattle fans that think Russell Wilson beat the 49er's.



Now THAT'S some funny stuff, right there.

 

[Broncos6482]

were you watching the same game i was? the patriots were passing heavily right from play one of the game. in the first half, they passed 18 times and ran only 8 times. that is not balanced at all. by the time they got the ball in the 2nd half, they were then down 20-3 and obviously had to keep passing.

You have to look at the situations though. First series, they passed, then ran, then faced 3rd and 5. That's an obvious passing situation. Second series, pass, run, and then pass on 3rd and 3. 3rd and 3 could go either way, but they chose pass. Third series, they ran twice and got 5 total yards. They passed on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 20. Again, pretty obvious passing situations. Fourth series, they alternated pass/run the first 6 plays and gained 5 total yards on those 3 runs. This left them facing a second and 10 (where they tried to pass) and a third and 8 where they again tried to pass but Brady was sacked.

Fifth series they got the ball at the 20 with 25 seconds left and 2 timeouts. Obviously they couldn't try to run here, so you saw three straight passes before a draw to end the half.

So yeah, they tried to run but they weren't successful. Those 8 carries amounted to 16 yards. Take out the end of half draw, and they had 7 carries for 11 yards. They abandoned the run because it wasn't working.

 

[Broncos6482]

Shhh, don't tell him, he thinks the Denver run defense is so good that it forced NE to throw.

8 first half runs for New England, 16 total yards. Yep, New England was really tearing Denver up on the ground.

 

[Podunkparte]

You have to look at the situations though. First series, they passed, then ran, then faced 3rd and 5. That's an obvious passing situation. Second series, pass, run, and then pass on 3rd and 3. 3rd and 3 could go either way, but they chose pass. Third series, they ran twice and got 5 total yards. They passed on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 20. Again, pretty obvious passing situations. Fourth series, they alternated pass/run the first 6 plays and gained 5 total yards on those 3 runs. This left them facing a second and 10 (where they tried to pass) and a third and 8 where they again tried to pass but Brady was sacked.

Fifth series they got the ball at the 20 with 25 seconds left and 2 timeouts. Obviously they couldn't try to run here, so you saw three straight passes before a draw to end the half.

So yeah, they tried to run but they weren't successful. Those 8 carries amounted to 16 yards. Take out the end of half draw, and they had 7 carries for 11 yards. They abandoned the run because it wasn't working.

So they carried 8 times in the first half of the game and you think that's indicative of the run game being abandoned? How can you abandon something you clearly weren't relying upon? To abandon something they would have had to try it more than 8 times in the first half of the game. They were obviously relying more on the passing game.

This is like trying to brag that your team shut down the Seahawks passing game and forced them to run the ball.

 

[Broncos6482]

So they carried 8 times in the first half of the game and you think that's indicative of the run game being abandoned? How can you abandon something you clearly weren't relying upon? To abandon something they would have had to try it more than 8 times in the first half of the game. They were obviously relying more on the passing game.

This is like trying to brag that your team shut down the Seahawks passing game and forced them to run the ball.

Context. The Patriots didn't get very many plays in the first half, and running wasn't working. They were facing a lot of third and longs, do you expect them to run on that? Do you expect them to run when they get the ball back with 25 seconds left in the half?

 

[STBR 27]

Almost as funny as Seattle fans that think Russell Wilson beat the 49er's.



Now THAT'S some funny stuff, right there.

Just to clarify the post from yesterday which you morons keep referring to, I meant RW lead his team to the NFC Championship victory, while Rivers failed. I never meant RW put the team on his back and beat anyone himself.

Having said that, I am pretty sure that RW was the one that threw the TD pass to Kearse to take the lead against the 49ers, did he not? So he actually did beat the 49ers, didn't he? The defense just held onto the lead RW gave them.

 

[hawkturnal]

Almost as funny as Seattle fans that think Russell Wilson beat the 49er's.



Now THAT'S some funny stuff, right there.

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