Slaton10'sWeeky Musings...late edition

[WVUDAD]

Sorry they are both POWER 5 teams last time I checked...don't remember them playing the Southland Conference

They are power five only because they got grandfathered in and play good basketball......Here are Sagarin's ratings this week, look at the teams around Kansas:
151 Southern Illinois AA = 51.59 4 6 55.50( 131) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.91 141 | 52.84 144 | 48.01 160
152 Western Carolina AA = 51.59 7 4 44.94( 185) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.67 149 | 50.37 151 | 51.63 152
153 UC Davis AA = 51.54 5 5 50.87( 151) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.70 148 | 49.32 155 | 52.04 151
154 Colgate AA = 50.29 6 4 40.96( 198) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.51 154 | 48.09 158 | 50.66 156
155 Elon AA = 49.99 8 2 49.65( 162) 0 0 | 0 0 | 47.38 161 | 47.75 160 | 54.80 136
156 Kansas A = 49.94 1 9 72.57( 43) 0 0 | 0 4 | 51.46 151 | 51.99 146 | 45.42 172
157 Monmouth-NJ AA = 49.48 9 1 35.68( 228) 0 0 | 0 0 | 47.28 162 | 47.28 162 | 53.64 143
158 Princeton AA = 48.77 5 4 37.52( 214) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.01 156 | 48.64 156 | 46.18 167
159 Villanova AA = 48.68 4 6 48.34( 169) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.18 152 | 49.95 153 | 42.84 184
160 Austin Peay AA = 48.37 7 4 47.21( 173) 0 0 | 0 1 | 46.46 163 | 43.92 181 | 53.30 144

 

[bbwvfan]

If we go back to 2013, here are his rankings..

71 Colorado State A = 67.14 8 6 62.06( 99) 0 1 | 0 1 | 65.97 81 | 68.22 67 | 64.77 87
72 Iowa State A = 67.06 3 9 75.74( 23) 0 1 | 0 5 | 68.13 69 | 65.87 77 | 61.08 101
73 Maryland A = 66.79 7 6 66.50( 70) 0 1 | 0 2 | 66.76 76 | 66.69 72 | 64.04 91
74 West Virginia A = 66.75 4 8 74.20( 33) 0 1 | 1 4 | 67.09 73 | 66.26 74 | 59.21 110
75 Colorado A = 66.42 4 8 78.89( 6) 0 2 | 0 7 | 67.06 74 | 65.65 78 | 66.78 79
76 Illinois A = 66.33 4 8 73.33( 41) 0 1 | 0 4 | 66.46 77 | 66.06 76 | 63.00 95
77 Arkansas A = 66.21 3 9 77.35( 12) 0 3 | 0 6 | 67.46 70 | 64.85 83 | 63.07 94
78 San Diego State A = 65.89 8 5 65.15( 78) 0 0 | 0 2 | 66.12 80 | 65.53 80 | 70.26 63

 

[bbwvfan]

Make no mistake, KU was ranked last among P5 teams... yet... still above several teams in the BE successor... the AAC.

 

[WVUDAD]

Make no mistake, KU was ranked last among P5 teams... yet... still above several teams in the BE successor... the AAC.

Yet again, made up BS, Kansas in rated 156, with 34 1AA teams ahead of them, and 9 1A teams below them, NONE of which is in the AAC:
13 AAC EAST (A) = 64.11 65.31 ( 13) TEAMS= 6 64.50 ( 13)
College Football 2017 through games of November 11 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15]
19 Central Florida(UCF) A = 84.78 9 0 61.52( 99) 0 0 | 0 0 | 83.67 19 | 82.27 21 | 88.10 13
39 South Florida A = 76.41 8 1 57.45( 121) 0 0 | 0 0 | 76.17 41 | 76.67 39 | 76.04 37
87 Temple A = 65.31 5 5 64.45( 84) 0 1 | 0 1 | 63.71 89 | 65.98 82 | 66.97 73
115 Cincinnati A = 58.26 3 7 68.75( 65) 0 0 | 0 2 | 58.48 112 | 59.74 108 | 56.43 126
140 Connecticut A = 53.82 3 7 67.80( 68) 0 0 | 0 1 | 52.99 140 | 54.65 136 | 54.07 141
144 East Carolina A = 53.30 2 8 70.57( 57) 0 0 | 0 3 | 52.42 144 | 55.42 131 | 52.81 148
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10 AAC WEST (A) = 68.92 68.77 ( 11) TEAMS= 6 68.81 ( 10)
College Football 2017 through games of November 11 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15]
36 Memphis A = 77.27 8 1 64.15( 85) 0 0 | 0 1 | 75.05 45 | 78.29 34 | 80.05 32
54 Houston A = 72.39 6 3 67.53( 69) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.84 53 | 73.33 50 | 70.57 61
63 Navy A = 70.96 6 3 67.33( 71) 0 0 | 0 1 | 70.36 64 | 72.17 56 | 70.61 60
71 SMU A = 69.33 6 4 64.86( 82) 0 0 | 0 2 | 69.97 66 | 68.11 74 | 68.51 70
97 Tulane A = 61.51 4 6 65.72( 77) 0 1 | 0 1 | 62.34 96 | 60.64 101 | 60.14 104
101 Tulsa A = 61.13 2 8 67.36( 70) 0 0 | 0 1 | 61.34 99 | 61.23 96 | 60.15 103

 

[bbwvfan]

Sagarin’s 2013 standings...

That’s the year DAD highlighted to compare KU and ISU to SFA...

Yet again, made up BS, Kansas in rated 156, with 34 1AA teams ahead of them, and 9 1A teams below them, NONE of which is in the AAC:
13 AAC EAST (A) = 64.11 65.31 ( 13) TEAMS= 6 64.50 ( 13)
College Football 2017 through games of November 11 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15]
19 Central Florida(UCF) A = 84.78 9 0 61.52( 99) 0 0 | 0 0 | 83.67 19 | 82.27 21 | 88.10 13
39 South Florida A = 76.41 8 1 57.45( 121) 0 0 | 0 0 | 76.17 41 | 76.67 39 | 76.04 37
87 Temple A = 65.31 5 5 64.45( 84) 0 1 | 0 1 | 63.71 89 | 65.98 82 | 66.97 73
115 Cincinnati A = 58.26 3 7 68.75( 65) 0 0 | 0 2 | 58.48 112 | 59.74 108 | 56.43 126
140 Connecticut A = 53.82 3 7 67.80( 68) 0 0 | 0 1 | 52.99 140 | 54.65 136 | 54.07 141
144 East Carolina A = 53.30 2 8 70.57( 57) 0 0 | 0 3 | 52.42 144 | 55.42 131 | 52.81 148
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

10 AAC WEST (A) = 68.92 68.77 ( 11) TEAMS= 6 68.81 ( 10)
College Football 2017 through games of November 11 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15] [ 2.15]
36 Memphis A = 77.27 8 1 64.15( 85) 0 0 | 0 1 | 75.05 45 | 78.29 34 | 80.05 32
54 Houston A = 72.39 6 3 67.53( 69) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.84 53 | 73.33 50 | 70.57 61
63 Navy A = 70.96 6 3 67.33( 71) 0 0 | 0 1 | 70.36 64 | 72.17 56 | 70.61 60
71 SMU A = 69.33 6 4 64.86( 82) 0 0 | 0 2 | 69.97 66 | 68.11 74 | 68.51 70
97 Tulane A = 61.51 4 6 65.72( 77) 0 1 | 0 1 | 62.34 96 | 60.64 101 | 60.14 104
101 Tulsa A = 61.13 2 8 67.36( 70) 0 0 | 0 1 | 61.34 99 | 61.23 96 | 60.15 103

In 2013?

 

[WVUDAD]

The 1A teams below the powerhouse that is Kansas football this week are:
From CUSA:
Charlotte, Rice, UTEP
from the MAC:
Kent, Ball st
from the MWC:
San Jose St
From the Sunbelt:
GA So, TX St, Coastal Carolina

 

[WVUDAD]

In 2013 TWO teams from the AAC, UConn and USF were below Kansas, Kansas was 119, UConn 121, and USF 143........ ONLY because of the win against WVU, their first league win, first 1A win in a long while.......

 

[Slaton10]

They are power five only because they got grandfathered in and play good basketball......Here are Sagarin's ratings this week, look at the teams around Kansas:
151 Southern Illinois AA = 51.59 4 6 55.50( 131) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.91 141 | 52.84 144 | 48.01 160
152 Western Carolina AA = 51.59 7 4 44.94( 185) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.67 149 | 50.37 151 | 51.63 152
153 UC Davis AA = 51.54 5 5 50.87( 151) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.70 148 | 49.32 155 | 52.04 151
154 Colgate AA = 50.29 6 4 40.96( 198) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.51 154 | 48.09 158 | 50.66 156
155 Elon AA = 49.99 8 2 49.65( 162) 0 0 | 0 0 | 47.38 161 | 47.75 160 | 54.80 136
156 Kansas A = 49.94 1 9 72.57( 43) 0 0 | 0 4 | 51.46 151 | 51.99 146 | 45.42 172
157 Monmouth-NJ AA = 49.48 9 1 35.68( 228) 0 0 | 0 0 | 47.28 162 | 47.28 162 | 53.64 143
158 Princeton AA = 48.77 5 4 37.52( 214) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.01 156 | 48.64 156 | 46.18 167
159 Villanova AA = 48.68 4 6 48.34( 169) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.18 152 | 49.95 153 | 42.84 184
160 Austin Peay AA = 48.37 7 4 47.21( 173) 0 0 | 0 1 | 46.46 163 | 43.92 181 | 53.30 144

What does this have to do with the year they beat Wv?

 

[Slaton10]

Stephen 'FRIGGIN" AUSTIN!.........

 

[bbwvfan]

In 2013 TWO teams from the AAC, UConn and USF were below Kansas, Kansas was 119, UConn 121, and USF 143........ ONLY because of the win against WVU, their first league win, first 1A win in a long while.......

Your point? Purdue was ranked below KU too...

 

[bbwvfan]

Stephen 'FRIGGIN" AUSTIN!.........

Exactly! It’s not like WVU lost to an FCS level team. That’s exactly what SFA was... and is...

 

[WVUDAD]

Exactly! It’s not like WVU lost to an FCS level team. That’s exactly what SFA was... and is...

SFA was a conference Champion, who had earned their place in the tourney.......Kansas had not won more than one B12 game since 2008, in 2009 they beat IAST, 2010 they beat Colorado, 2011 they beat no one, 2012 they beat no one, 2013, they beat WVU, 2014 they beat IAST, 2015 they beat no one, 2016 they beat Texas and got Strong fired, 2017 they beat no one so far......Kansas is 5-72 in the B12 the last nine years, there is no comparison.........

 

[bbwvfan]

SFA was a conference Champion, who had earned their place in the tourney.......Kansas had not won more than one B12 game since 2008, in 2009 they beat IAST, 2010 they beat Colorado, 2011 they beat no one, 2012 they beat no one, 2013, they beat WVU, 2014 they beat IAST, 2015 they beat no one, 2016 they beat Texas and got Strong fired, 2017 they beat no one so far......Kansas is 5-72 in the B12 the last nine years, there is no comparison.........

You’re right... there is no comparison. SFA is an FCS level school. KU is a P5 school.

 

[bbwvfan]

Let's try to put this into proper perspective...

Sagarin's final rankings for 2015-16...

FINAL College Basketball 2015-2016 Div I games only through games of 2016 April 4 Monday - NCAA Championship Game
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 25 | VS top 50 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 3.31] [ 3.31] [ 3.31] [ 3.31]
1 Villanova = 94.26 35 5 80.71( 12) 6 3 | 16 5 | 93.65 1 | 94.00 1 | 97.60 1
2 Kansas = 93.55 32 5 81.92( 4) 11 4 | 15 4 | 93.06 2 | 93.49 2 | 95.40 3
3 North Carolina = 93.33 33 7 81.28( 6) 5 4 | 15 6 | 92.71 3 | 93.41 3 | 95.46 2
4 Virginia = 92.14 29 8 82.13( 2) 8 3 | 14 7 | 91.89 5 | 92.41 4 | 92.39 4
5 Michigan State = 91.92 29 6 78.41( 55) 6 3 | 10 4 | 92.48 4 | 91.85 5 | 90.83 7
6 Oklahoma = 90.06 29 8 82.17( 1) 9 5 | 13 6 | 89.51 10 | 90.48 6 | 91.01 6
7 Louisville = 89.89 23 8 78.33( 56) 2 6 | 8 7 | 90.89 7 | 89.84 7 | 88.05 13
8 Kentucky = 89.78 27 9 78.87( 45) 3 3 | 6 4 | 90.14 8 | 89.49 9 | 89.37 8
9 West Virginia = 89.60 26 9 80.82( 11) 6 5 | 7 8 | 90.96 6 | 89.62 8 | 87.21 15
10 Indiana = 89.27 27 8 77.62( 65) 5 3 | 9 5 | 89.40 11 | 89.13 10 | 89.18 9

51 Stephen F. Austin = 82.37 24 6 67.23( 294) 1 1 | 1 2 | 82.30 49 | 81.74 56 | 83.76 37
52 Texas Tech = 81.99 19 13 80.49( 16) 3 7 | 4 10 | 81.99 54 | 82.08 53 | 81.83 51
53 Kansas State = 81.91 17 16 80.56( 15) 1 12 | 1 14 | 82.31 48 | 81.93 55 | 80.91 60
54 Colorado = 81.90 21 12 78.50( 50) 2 5 | 4 9 | 81.93 57 | 82.07 54 | 81.52 58
55 Dayton = 81.79 25 8 75.38( 87) 1 1 | 4 4 | 81.94 56 | 82.58 48 | 80.32 66
56 Yale = 81.77 22 7 71.56( 162) 1 3 | 1 4 | 81.94 55 | 81.38 57 | 81.95 50
57 Clemson = 81.60 17 14 78.00( 58) 3 3 | 7 7 | 82.28 50 | 81.24 58 | 80.54 63
58 South Carolina = 81.52 24 9 76.02( 79) 1 1 | 3 2 | 81.87 58 | 82.15 52 | 79.82 75
59 Oregon State = 80.82 18 13 79.85( 23) 1 3 | 4 9 | 80.62 62 | 81.10 59 | 80.89 62
60 Virginia Tech = 80.61 20 15 79.53( 32) 2 8 | 6 13 | 80.00 69 | 80.18 69 | 83.35 39

 

[bbwvfan]

Prior to beating WVU by 14 fucking points, SFA had not beat a P5 program. They were destroyed by our conference mate BU by 42 pts. In fact, their non-con record was pathetic.

 

[bbwvfan]

Perspective... #9 WVU loses to #51 SFA by 14 points.

#74 WVU loses to #72 ISU in 3 OT.

 

[bbwvfan]

More perspective... using Sagarin rankings

In '08... Billy's first year as HC... his #26 team lost to #72 Colo. That would be a worst loss than KU. Losing to a team ranked 46 spots lower vs. 45.

 

[WVUDAD]

Perspective... #9 WVU loses to #51 SFA by 14 points.

#74 WVU loses to #72 ISU in 3 OT.

You DO realize that only 130 teams play 1A football, and 347 play div 1 basketball, don't you? percentage wise a top 50 basketball school is top 20 in football..........

 

[Slaton10]

You DO realize that only 130 teams play 1A football, and 347 play div 1 basketball, don't you? percentage wise a top 50 basketball school is top 20 in football..........

Is that hillbilly math or something?..

 

[mad2mc]

Whoa! What happened to the Noble Peace Prize for World Peace between Poppy and BB go to? Save yourself some headaches posting and read through this thread. It will explain the math and rekindle the feud, again.

How bout them roundballers!!!!