Simmons or Ingram?

[Shaqdaddy11]

Is there anyone out there thinking the Sixers aren't taking Simmons?

 

[RazorsEdge]

I've read some articles suggesting that the Sixers draft Simmons and play him at point.

I watched Simmons play a bunch of times at LSU and there is nothing to suggest he has the ball handling, passing skills or quickness to play PG in the NBA.

I mean, he's an OK passer for a big man, but, he has nowhere near the vision of a LeBron.

I think that would be a mistake by Philly. He's probably best suited as a 3.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I think that would be a mistake by Philly. He's probably best suited as a 3.

3 or 4

 

[tlance]

No, he wasn't. He played nobodies at Davidson. Hield played in a real conference. I'm not saying Hield is as good a prospect or not, I was commenting on your age specific declaration. Younger doesn't mean higher ceiling.

It does when comparing Hield and Murray.

As for Curry, there is only 1 other player in my lifetime that has displayed similar success in the NBA despite small stature and obvious physical limitations. That is Steve Nash. If you are basing you hopes for Buddy Hield on what 2 special players accomplished, you are looking at worse than 1 in a million odds.

 

[tlance]

Murray is also more versatile. Some project him as a PG

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Simmons to Philly is basically a lock. The Sixers are already shopping Okafor and Noel, so that tells you all you need to know. They intend on taking that 6-10 guy that can play point forward or run the break as a smallball center.

True...Teague to PHI for Noel/Okafor has been warm for some time now...I wish I knew enough about Simmons and Ingram to speak on them, but it seems like either way the Lakers will get a good player.

 

[shopson67]

Murray is also more versatile. Some project him as a PG

That will take some work. Right now, he's a scorer. He can get his own shot, has good range and can get to the basket.

 

[RazorsEdge]

That will take some work. Right now, he's a scorer. He can get his own shot, has good range and can get to the basket.

Hield is a better scorer right now. He's a better shooter set and off the dribble with better ball handling skills. It all depends on whether you think Murray will be better eventually, he might, he might not. Hield is more ready now, and there's really no reason to think he can't continue to improve given the leaps and bounds he's made over the last couple of years.

 

[Black Adam]

Is there anyone out there thinking the Sixers aren't taking Simmons?

maybe anyone who's drug-induced...

 

[tlance]

That will take some work. Right now, he's a scorer. He can get his own shot, has good range and can get to the basket.

Yeah. I don't see the PG thing either, but he is more explosive than Hield for sure.

Also, I won't deny that Hield is more ready. Thing is, when you are picking top 4, you are not looking for a good player, you are looking for a potentially great one. Hield is safer for sure, but the ceiling just isn't high enough to justify taking him over Murray.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah. I don't see the PG thing either, but he is more explosive than Hield for sure.

Also, I won't deny that Hield is more ready. Thing is, when you are picking top 4, you are not looking for a good player, you are looking for a potentially great one. Hield is safer for sure, but the ceiling just isn't high enough to justify taking him over Murray.

Hield/Murray is really just a matter of team preference. Hield is the better shooter right now, but Murray has more upside.

 

[Four4Four]

how the hell do u expect Ingram to do anything in this league with his size. if he was a skinny point guard like AI or Curry when they were rookies, you say ok, they're skinny but fast and quick. this dude is what, a small forward? unless he's gonna be a catch and shoot player, he might be a small contributor.

 

[flyerhawk]

I think that would be a mistake by Philly. He's probably best suited as a 3.

From what I've read, Simmons has the potential to a Magic Johnson type that can play all 5 positions. Assuming he can improve his jump shot.

 

[RazorsEdge]

From what I've read, Simmons has the potential to a Magic Johnson type that can play all 5 positions. Assuming he can improve his jump shot.

I think it may come down to which postions he can defend effectively.

 

[flyerhawk]

I think it may come down to which postions he can defend effectively.

Agreed. I haven't really see the kid play but from what I've read he is really fluid for a big man. Dunno if he could defend the point especially a Westbrook like point but maybe.

 

[tlance]

how the hell do u expect Ingram to do anything in this league with his size. if he was a skinny point guard like AI or Curry when they were rookies, you say ok, they're skinny but fast and quick. this dude is what, a small forward? unless he's gonna be a catch and shoot player, he might be a small contributor.

Ummmm....

He is a good catch and shoot player and a SF. Wing players don't have to have bulk. Especially in today's NBA where post play is all but dead. His closest comparison (not that I think he will be this good) is Durant. KD was really skinny too, but he did okay.

 

[RazorsEdge]

Agreed. I haven't really see the kid play but from what I've read he is really fluid for a big man. Dunno if he could defend the point especially a Westbrook like point but maybe.

P.S. From what i'm hearing, you may be right about Dunn going #3 regardless of who has the pick, to include Boston.

 

[Jordan23]

Can't go wrong with either one but I think Ingram might end up having the better career but it's hard to tell. His length and ability to shoot from outside will be huge.

 

[flyerhawk]

P.S. From what i'm hearing, you may be right about Dunn going #3 regardless of who has the pick, to include Boston.

still don't think Boston will keep this pick.