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They’ll earn respect for having the balls to compete with the best, get national exposure, and have a better chance to be considered to join a P5 conference than a team that demands respect but won’t earn it.

Nothing will change because they will not attract the talent needed to be successful versus those schedules based on helping the school achieve P5 status after they are gone.
 

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Haha ah......

Alabama, Boise State, and Wisconsin are fine.

Florida and Texas are so & so because you never know they'll be good or not.

The rest are a shoulder shrug.
 

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They were in a power conference then as well but got "demoted" by realignment.
Big East wasn’t a real power conference. It is like saying the AAC now is a power conference. It was slightly better than the weaker conferences.
 

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They were in a power conference then as well but got "demoted" by realignment.

And even then the Big East apart from West Virginia and Louisville was given a hard time.
 

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Big East wasn’t a real power conference. It is like saying the AAC now is a power conference. It was slightly better than the weaker conferences.

Had AQ status. West Virginia plays for title if it beats Pitt.
 

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Had AQ status. West Virginia plays for title if it beats Pitt.
Having and deserving are two different things. If the WAC and Mountain West had any brains, they would have merged and been a stronger conference than the Big East. Big East always had one strong team and a ton of average to mediocre teams. MWC and WAC would have been a deeper league.
 

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What happens when they lose every single one of those games????



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Based on the edit, I don't think playing in the CFP anytime soon is their goal. They want to attract the best non-P5 players who want to play against those teams. Over a 4 year career for that type of players, it's exciting to play against those teams in their stadiums ... just ask the kids. The son of some of our best friends played at Tenn Tech. They played at Oregon, Wisconsin, and a couple other big time P5 teams while he was there. Got stomped. Was still the highlights of his career. Then they can compete in their conference with better players, which is their goal. Maybe get to a NYD bowl. UCF is the only delusional team, at least for now, that actually thinks they belong in the CFP.
 

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Based on the edit, I don't think playing in the CFP anytime soon is their goal. They want to attract the best non-P5 players who want to play against those teams. Over a 4 year career for that type of players, it's exciting to play against those teams in their stadiums ... just ask the kids. The son of some of our best friends played at Tenn Tech. They played at Oregon, Wisconsin, and a couple other big time P5 teams while he was there. Got stomped. Was still the highlights of his career. Then they can compete in their conference with better players, which is their goal. Maybe get to a NYD bowl. UCF is the only delusional team, at least for now, that actually thinks they belong in the CFP.
Gives kids a chance to say, I know I can’t play in a better conference, but at least I can get a chance to compete against the best possible competition given smaller team’s circumstances.
 

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Having and deserving are two different things. If the WAC and Mountain West had any brains, they would have merged and been a stronger conference than the Big East. Big East always had one strong team and a ton of average to mediocre teams. MWC and WAC would have been a deeper league.

They had it and they got treated as such by polls and BCS. That is what matters. 5 of 8 members that year are P5 teams today.
 

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They had it and they got treated as such by polls and BCS. That is what matters. 5 of 8 members that year are P5 teams today.
Where they almost all sit in the middle to bottom of their respective conferences.
 

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So, does USF control their destiny as much as any undefeated P5 team?

An undefeated P5 school will always (and should always) get the nod over an undefeated non P5 school. The only exception is Notre Dame. If the playoffs expand to 8 ... yes.
 

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An undefeated P5 school will always (and should always) get the nod over an undefeated non P5 school. The only exception is Notre Dame. If the playoffs expand to 8 ... yes.
As it should be, undefeated Power 5 should be in first. If they go unbeaten while playing either 1 great team or 2 solid teams, why shouldn’t they get a shot? If you beat Bama or Clemson and roll through your schedule, absolutely they should get a playoff bid.
 

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In 2025 they play Boise State, @Florida, and @Miami. If that isn’t having balls and scheduling the best competition you can find, I don’t know what is. Hats off to the Bulls.
 

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Played Clempson last season and open up with Bama this season so fuck all y'all, we get our ass handed to us by the best!
You want a cookie for playing a conference opponent?
 

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So, does USF control their destiny as much as any undefeated P5 team?

They got to #2 playing less. Now like then they need people in front of them to lose too.
 

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Nothing will change because they will not attract the talent needed to be successful versus those schedules based on helping the school achieve P5 status after they are gone.

So what you are saying is that they are not as talented as those teams but we should let them in the playoffs because of "fairness".
 

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After some thought, I may just become a t-shirt USF fan simply because they have the sand to schedule BAMA.
 

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They got to #2 playing less. Now like then they need people in front of them to lose too.

Auburn & West Virginia >>>>>>>>>>>>

I mean..... Beating Florida and Miami FL nowadays won't raise eyebrows like it use to.

This isn't the early-mid 2000's.
 
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