Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[ulmax]

Some of these guys may be rated..higher..or lower..
By the draft..

 

[seahawksfan234]

Agree it made them gun shy, but the thing with Cano was the Mariners overpaid but they were the only competition for Cano at anywhere near that so they bid against themselves, then screwed the next year after I can’t remember which when they didn’t sign Nelson Cruz. The Mariners being smart is a good thing, but “being too smart” for your own good isn’t and that’s where they seem to be.

Though I definitely am cool with them not touching that contract with Boegarts. But Swanson is worth it

Honestly I really wanted Bogaerts, but yeah I'd want nothing to do with the contract the Padres paid him.

They've really overbid on a lot of free agents this winter and unless ownership is willing to continue spending money, I don't know how effective of an approach it will be. Apparently they offered Judge 10 years $400m... As incredible as Judge is, he has had what? Two fully healthy seasons? That's a huge commitment to give to a guy who is on the wrong side of 30 and is a sure bet to miss time here and there.

I don't think Judge will have a Stanton-esque decline, but it's worth noting that they're both very similar players and he has fallen off a lot since turning 30.

 

[NWinAZ]

Agree it made them gun shy, but the thing with Cano was the Mariners overpaid but they were the only competition for Cano at anywhere near that so they bid against themselves, then screwed the next year after I can’t remember which when they didn’t sign Nelson Cruz. The Mariners being smart is a good thing, but “being too smart” for your own good isn’t and that’s where they seem to be.

Though I definitely am cool with them not touching that contract with Boegarts. But Swanson is worth it

I get people saying M's are gun shy after Cano deal but Cano deal never hurt them. The biggest issue with the Cano deal is that they din't build around it. It was one and done until getting Cruz who was a bit unwanted by some because of his past. Our payroll with Cano never crippled the club it just scared ownership which I don't understand because when was the last time an owner lost money in baseball? Not in the last 50-60 years I would guess.

With all that said, why not sign these B free agents? You telling me Bassitt isn't better than our #5 guys? He signed a 3 year deal and for average veteran money by todays standards. Oh well.

 

[wazzu31]

I get people saying M's are gun shy after Cano deal but Cano deal never hurt them. The biggest issue with the Cano deal is that they din't build around it. It was one and done until getting Cruz who was a bit unwanted by some because of his past. Our payroll with Cano never crippled the club it just scared ownership which I don't understand because when was the last time an owner lost money in baseball? Not in the last 50-60 years I would guess.

With all that said, why not sign these B free agents? You telling me Bassitt isn't better than our #5 guys? He signed a 3 year deal and for average veteran money by todays standards. Oh well.

It didn’t hamper them, just like nothing would. But it was the first in my lifetime I heard so much about having 2 guys making that much money hurts the club. I know the 95 club had the Tino issue or whatever when they actually were a mid market team but it was just weird that we heard so much about Felix and Cano’s contracts like it was cost prohibitive.

 

[wazzu31]

Honestly I really wanted Bogaerts, but yeah I'd want nothing to do with the contract the Padres paid him.

They've really overbid on a lot of free agents this winter and unless ownership is willing to continue spending money, I don't know how effective of an approach it will be. Apparently they offered Judge 10 years $400m... As incredible as Judge is, he has had what? Two fully healthy seasons? That's a huge commitment to give to a guy who is on the wrong side of 30 and is a sure bet to miss time here and there.

I don't think Judge will have a Stanton-esque decline, but it's worth noting that they're both very similar players and he has fallen off a lot since turning 30.

If the Padres can lock up Soto I think they will dethrone the Astros as the team everyone is hunting. Their MLB roster is pretty stacked and they still have a killer farm system. The Mariners made the big Castillo trade and now their farm system is still rated highly but they don’t have horses. The Padres made the Soto deal and still have enough guys to make another big trade.

Personally I think Judge is essentially a new Nelson Cruz. So I think he will be fine for the contract as a DH. Judge has been better than Cruz but had the Mariners signed Cruz to a 10 year deal in 2014 I think we could argue it would’ve been worth it.

 

[NWinAZ]

A nice listen with Stanton back on opening weekend at home talking about things we now have seen. Give a listen and give me your opinion.

 

[NWinAZ]

March 2022: In seven offseasons as the general manager of the Seattle Mariners, Jerry Dipoto has signed only seven free agents to guaranteed multi-year deals:

• Robbie Ray (5 years, $115m)
• Yusei Kikuchi (4 years, $56m)
• Juan Nicasio (2 years, $17m)
• Marc Rzepczynski (2 years, $11m)
• Steve Cishek (2 years, $10m)
• Ken Giles (2 years, $7m)
• Chris Flexen (2 years, $4.75m)

 

[ulmax]

Seattle Tacoma..has the 12Th biggest..market..for..
Sports,..
But add..Portland..

For a lot of..mariners fans..and the..mariners market..
Is 12th.,and 21st...

With ..no..baseball..in Portland..or..football..

So really..Seattle..2.099 mil.
Portland..1.35..mil.
Would make it a big market team..

 

[ulmax]

So really..it's in between..
Cuz..you can make it.

To Seattle...and even back.
But it would take all day..
But because..Portland..
Has no teams...baseball.
Or football...
They by default...are Seattle..fans .but.a lot of.
People...in Portland..also.
Do buisness .or..have lived..in the Seattle area.
So...
Yeah that does not include..Alaska..either.
Which..there are mariners fans..there..yeah...many locations...are..fairly ..remote....lolllol

 

[ulmax]

So really..it's in between..
Cuz..you can make it.

To Seattle...and even back.
But it would take all day..
But because..Portland..
Has no teams...baseball.
Or football...
They by default...are Seattle..fans .but.a lot of.
People...in Portland..also.
Do buisness .or..have lived..in the Seattle area.
So...
Yeah that does not include..Alaska..either.
Which..there are mariners fans..there..yeah...many locations...are..fairly ..remote....lolllol

Also..that..is..the potential.
Of the Portland area.

.reality...is..prob a bit..less..cuz..it's hard..to go to a game...as easily..
As in the Seattle area..

A lot of times the best you can do..is tv..
And radio..in..Portland for.
Seahawks..is good..but baseball..not so good..

 

[ulmax]

Some free agents .I know I'm nwinaz..likes this one..
Brandon Drury...2b/3b/of..
If he could add..1base
It would be good..

His 2022.
Numbers..where his best,
So...if you believe in him..
Ok..
And AJ Pollock..

Both could help..the mariners..

 

[ulmax]

Some free agents .I know I'm nwinaz..likes this one..
Brandon Drury...2b/3b/of..
If he could add..1base
It would be good..

His 2022.
Numbers..where his best,
So...if you believe in him..
Ok..
And AJ Pollock..

Both could help..the marinrrs

 

[ulmax]

Drury is a bit risky..
His obp..is not great..
And not to maney..bases on balls.,
But he hit 28 hrs..last year

 

[ulmax]

Will Myers maybe.even more..what the...mariners are looking for..1b /3b /of.
And can DH..only 7 hrs..in.2022..
But if Drury could..deliver.
Maybe Drury..

 

[ulmax]

Yeah I have not looked at his..splits..yet..but..maybe could do..1b..

3b../of..ok..maybe worth a look..

Ok so he played 30 games at 1st base..

 

[ulmax]

Drury only..played..1game.
At RF..but mariners would need.him to play more..
Unless..kelenic hits better..

Like 1/3 of his..games..at.1st base..that..is good..

I'm 1/2 and 1/2.on Drury..
I think.he could help.though...lolo..
Once..they..figure..him.out...and know just how to use him..
He is not a typical..mariners..hitter.
With good on base pct..
Could work as DH as well..

But I think..you have to know..when..not..to play.him..and when to.play him..

 

[ulmax]

Drury.

When..1st.5th 6th..and.8th

Not the 9th..lolol

 

[ulmax]

Drury's hard hit rate is good..
Santandlers is good as well..gitting Drury...is a better chance than santandler..

 

[ulmax]

Drury's hard hit rate is good..
Santandlers is good as well..gitting Drury...is a better chance than santandler..

He hit..238..with..San Diego..that is acceptable..
At the least.,

 

[ulmax]

Well..he would be an upgrade..to toro..not..on defence though..lolol