Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[ulmax]

But it's hard .to say .until..
You start seeing stats..
D1 stats..

 

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Left handed pitchers.to watch..in2023..D1 baseball..
Grayson hitt..Alabama..6-3
Lhp..
Jalon woods..Georgia.

 

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Seems if you like Left handed..pitchers..Alabama has a lot of them..

 

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Who is good on the huskys..
AJ guerrero...6-0
Of..fife..

Will Simpson...6-4..1,b..
Sammish.
Wash...hihgline high school

 

[wazzu31]

Seeing Haniger leave kinda sucks, particularly given the offensive struggles of the team. I guess $15 million a year was too much considering his injury history.

I have no faith in Kelenic at this point, even with the shift gone.

Of course, I have no clue who will benefit most from the no shift rule, other than generally assuming lefties.

Anyway, aloha Mitch! We will miss you un Seattle.

Wasn’t the money.

A. They can’t guarantee the years
B. Haniger doesn’t like Jerry. Which is an overlooked issue that us fans don’t put in the equation with FA’s.

 

[NWinAZ]

B. Haniger doesn’t like Jerry. Which is an overlooked issue that us fans don’t put in the equation with FA’s.

I said that over and over during the year and I know you did as well. I thought it was obvious with Dipoto's words about it takes two regarding an extension and I think there was some real distain for Jerry when Haniger wrote that letter last year. I hope Haniger kills it in SF. Good for him.

 

[wazzu31]

I said that over and over during the year and I know you did as well. I thought it was obvious with Dipoto's words about it takes two regarding an extension and I think there was some real distain for Jerry when Haniger wrote that letter last year. I hope Haniger kills it in SF. Good for him.

Obviously no inside information but it appears Jerry isn’t liked. Marco and Seager openly talked about the “front office” is despised. Haniger didn’t even talk to the dude about an extension when Haniger was injured. He trades a clubhouse leader in Graveman during a potential playoff run. And to take the cake is whatever the hell was the Kyle Lewis issue.

I hate the whole Seattle is a mid market argument but it is valid in the sense of it was a real market then there would be a legitimate article written when the president of insert sports calls his rookie of the year a faker about his injury.

 

[NWinAZ]

I hate the whole Seattle is a mid market argument but it is valid in the sense of it was a real market then there would be a legitimate article written when the president of insert sports calls his rookie of the year a faker about his injury.

Major pro and college sports teams ranked by market size

See which pro sports cities rank as the biggest TV markets, according to Nielsen. New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are the top three.

www.sportsmediawatch.com

 

[wazzu31]

Major pro and college sports teams ranked by market size

See which pro sports cities rank as the biggest TV markets, according to Nielsen. New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are the top three.

www.sportsmediawatch.com

@seahawksfan234 and I have spoke on this. Market size is pointless, the amount of people in an area is irrelevant compared to the money in the area. The Seattle “market” has just as much money for advertising and disposable income of fans as any city in the country. The Mariners have their own network for the only baseball team and 1 pro basketball and pro hockey team in 5 states. Wyoming is closer to being Rockies fans but half of the state are still Mariners fans because Griffey > anything the Rockies have done.

It isn’t a mid or small market and the ownership group is as wealthy as any ownership group in the MLB and can afford to make mistakes in free agency.

 

[NWinAZ]

@seahawksfan234 and I have spoke on this. Market size is pointless, the amount of people in an area is irrelevant compared to the money in the area. The Seattle “market” has just as much money for advertising and disposable income of fans as any city in the country. The Mariners have their own network for the only baseball team and 1 pro basketball and pro hockey team in 5 states. Wyoming is closer to being Rockies fans but half of the state are still Mariners fans because Griffey > anything the Rockies have done.

It isn’t a mid or small market and the ownership group is as wealthy as any ownership group in the MLB and can afford to make mistakes in free agency.

I agree. But even if you use the market rate above, it shows us at twelve but two areas ahead of us share two team markets meaning we move into top 10 individually. I look at it as Elite markets (LA and NY's), Top Markets (us and 5 or 6 others), then Mid and small below us.

But I have been saying this for the last 30 years, Ownership does not need to spend to make more money so they don't. They make the same profit margin at $140M or at $180M so their thought is why risk it?They know the Hawks are their only real competition and that is only for the last part of the season. It comes down to one thing; Does the owner want to win (or hates losing)? Steinbrenner had that. I think he would have spent no matter where his market was because he hated to lose. Stanton has been around the M's organization for a long time and he learned from the best that winning doesn't equate to bigger profits. Lincoln taught him well.

 

[ulmax]

I agree. But even if you use the market rate above, it shows us at twelve but two areas ahead of us share two team markets meaning we move into top 10 individually. I look at it as Elite markets (LA and NY's), Top Markets (us and 5 or 6 others), then Mid and small below us.

But I have been saying this for the last 30 years, Ownership does not need to spend to make more money so they don't. They make the same profit margin at $140M or at $180M so their thought is why risk it?They know the Hawks are their only real competition and that is only for the last part of the season. It comes down to one thing; Does the owner want to win (or hates losing)? Steinbrenner had that. I think he would have spent no matter where his market was because he hated to lose. Stanton has been around the M's organization for a long time and he learned from the best that winning doesn't equate to bigger profits. Lincoln taught him well.

I understand .what..you are.saying..but .I don't know if it exactly..fits..in this case,..cuz..I agree..
That. Trades are prob better...to avoid .a Mets..
Senario ..and there are..
Some trade ..still..out there..

 

[ulmax]

Arbitration..climes..
So...this is one of the mariners..probs..an ever rising..arb cost..and contract costs .

 

[ulmax]

My..look at it..

If..the ..mariners could .
Find.a right handed..LF.
?¿…MLB had a list of maybe trade guy..
Baltimore.
Santandler would..do great..and vavra..
A utility type..2b..Left handed..could from Tacoma..or Seattle..
And also plays..LF...

My point is not...this particular..trade..my.
Point..is.there are.trades
That .would help.the.mariners..
And without .being to expensive....(like reynolds)
This trade is a good one..
To me..and the ..mariners.
Come out good..

So does Baltimore...
Who signed...Kyle Gibson.
But could still use pitchers..,soon.

 

[NWinAZ]

From the financial side, the revenue will be split to give each team $60.1 million annually; Combined with local TV deals that are worth at least $40 million each, every MLB club will make at least $100 million from TV deals alone, according to Craig Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus:

Ballpark naming rights deal: US$87.5 million, signed 2018, expires 2044

 

[NWinAZ]

From the financial side, the revenue will be split to give each team $60.1 million annually; Combined with local TV deals that are worth at least $40 million each, every MLB club will make at least $100 million from TV deals alone, according to Craig Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus:

Ballpark naming rights deal: US$87.5 million, signed 2018, expires 2044

Let’s Update the Estimated Local TV Revenue for MLB Teams

While revenue is very much in question for the 2020 season, it was time to update our local revenue estimates from 2016.

blogs.fangraphs.com

 

[seahawksfan234]

This is where I read it. Not sure if it is from the same article.

Go after J.D. Martinez.

He trains at the Driveline sports complex in Kent. Couldn't be too expensive to land him on a two year deal and I think he'd be a solid addition. But since we're dollar store shoppers it's probably not even within the realm of possibility.

 

[seahawksfan234]

And it’s almost a given now the Sonics are coming back after the new CBA and Root Sports is going to make a shit load of money….and hopefully get a freaking streaming app.

For all the logical reasons for the Mariners ownership to spend money - even as a business decision to maximize profit - it doesn't seem as if they're going to be willing to do that.

Mid-market my fucking ass.

I can't believe all the people I see defending ownership on Twitter. I have to assume they must just be the dumbasses who just started watching the Mariners for the first time this year and don't realize the holes on this roster.

 

[seahawksfan234]

@seahawksfan234 and I have spoke on this. Market size is pointless, the amount of people in an area is irrelevant compared to the money in the area. The Seattle “market” has just as much money for advertising and disposable income of fans as any city in the country. The Mariners have their own network for the only baseball team and 1 pro basketball and pro hockey team in 5 states. Wyoming is closer to being Rockies fans but half of the state are still Mariners fans because Griffey > anything the Rockies have done.

It isn’t a mid or small market and the ownership group is as wealthy as any ownership group in the MLB and can afford to make mistakes in free agency.

Don't really have anything to add to this other than you're completely right.

Speaking from personal experience; they can charge the fans whatever the hell they want because the people in this area can pay it without having to worry about paying their bills after an expensive outing at a Mariners game.

 

[ulmax]

Mariners..draft picks..
#23…
#29..Julio,I think..
Dodgers and Mets are moved back 10 slots..
Mariners..
CompA..pick 31

Mariners 2nd round..
Would be.30 plus 8 plus1..
Plus 23..I think..
62..??

 

[NWinAZ]

Mariners..draft picks..
#23…
#29..Julio,I think..
Dodgers and Mets are moved back 10 slots..
Mariners..
CompA..pick 31

Mariners 2nd round..
Would be.30 plus 8 plus1..
Plus 23..I think..
62..??

#22, #29, #30, #59. #59 would be lost if we signed a free agent with a qualifying offer...which is doubtful at this point.

2023 MLB Draft Order | MLB.com

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