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I had my heart set on him. Total crapshoot with both I think. The plus with Ziggy is that the Schwartz knows what he's working with, a little. Or atleast he thinks he knows, which is more likely, and more important. (I'm referencing Jimmy's arrogance here). I actually see Ansah having a better career, as he's a Lion. (Remember Rule#1?)
 

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I had my heart set on him. Total crapshoot with both I think. The plus with Ziggy is that the Schwartz knows what he's working with, a little. Or atleast he thinks he knows, which is more likely. (I'm referencing Jimmy arrogance here). I actually see Ansah having a better career, as he's a Lion. (Remember Rule#1?)

I totally agree w you that Schwartz arrogance/confidence in himself had plenty to do with Ansah being the pick. Huge reason why I'm rooting for Schwartz to figure shit out and bring us back to the playoffs. I don't want to to start over with a new HC, OC, DC using players specifically hand picked to play in this Wide 9.
 

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Are you predicting he has the better rookie season and/or career? I agree it's def a guy to watch all things considered.

This is one of the games I had the guys at ESPN playing. Join in if you like:

Below are the 4 possible Scenarios for round 1. Mix-and-match players
from each round to create your best draft for 2013. Players may be moved
up a round but not down. No other players were consider at these positions
within the same round because these are the best players at that round. If
you disagree, insert any player you want from that round from ANY position
at all to create your Best 2013 Lions Draft. Mine is below. Enjoy.


Scenario #1…....Scenario #2…..Scenario #3……Scenario 4
1. Ansah DE ……Milliner CB…….Austin WR…….Cooper OG
2. Slay DB ………Watson OL…….Woods WR…….Tank DE
3. Warford OG…Moore DE……..Allen WR........Mathieu/Wrey-Wilson CB


Well for me the Lions’ draft is the 2nd best option so I’m OK w/ it.
Best Possible Draft
1. Cooper OG
2. Moore DE
3. Mathieu CB
 

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This is one of the games I had the guys at ESPN playing. Join in if you like:

Below are the 4 possible Scenarios for round 1. Mix-and-match players
from each round to create your best draft for 2013. Players may be moved
up a round but not down. No other players were consider at these positions
within the same round because these are the best players at that round. If
you disagree, insert any player you want from that round from ANY position
at all to create your Best 2013 Lions Draft. Mine is below. Enjoy.


Scenario #1…....Scenario #2…..Scenario #3……Scenario 4
1. Ansah DE ……Milliner CB…….Austin WR…….Cooper OG
2. Slay DB ………Watson OL…….Woods WR…….Tank DE
3. Warford OG…Moore DE……..Allen WR........Mathieu/Wrey-Wilson CB


Well for me the Lions’ draft is the 2nd best option so I’m OK w/ it.
Best Possible Draft
1. Cooper OG
2. Moore DE
3. Mathieu CB

Too bad you aren't a Cards fan you would have been thrilled. I'm almost positive a legit article went out saying all other 31 teams had taken the Honey Badger off their board. AZ was his one and one shot w his LSU roommate and bff Patrick Peterson there to mentor him.

I honestly think Ansah, Slay, Warford looks great. Lions nailed the draft. Now let's see it translate to the field.
 

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DeeMilly, Margus and Phil Thomas for me though. So I'm not really judging. I just wanted to thumb out "gets down on the brown".
 

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The Honey Badger? That dude gets down on the brown man.
I have no idea what that means, but for a better perspective of my thinking, here is my BIG BOARD.

Principal57’s 2013 Lions Only Big Board
ROUND 1
1 Lane Johnson OT
2 Eric Fisher OT
3 Luke Joeckel OT
4 Jonathan Cooper OG
5 Chance Warmack OG
ROUND 2
6 Sheldon Richardson DT
7 Sharrif Floyd DT
8 Star Lotulelei DT
9 Dee Milliner CB
10 D.J. Fluker OT
11 Damontre Moore DE
12 Ezekiel Ansah DE
13 Dion Jordan DE
14 Jarvis Jones DE
15 Bjoern Werner DE
16 Datone Jones DE
17 Barkevious Mingo DE
18 Cornellius Carradine DE
19 Sam Montgomery DE
20 Alex Okafor DE
21 Margus Hunt DE
22 Tavon Austin WR
23 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
24 DeAndre Hopkins WR
25 Keenan Allen WR
26 Quinton Patton WR
27 Aaron Dobson WR
28 Kenny Vaccaro S
29 Alec Ogletree OLB
30 Arthur Brown OLB
31 Sylvester Williams DT
32 Jesse Williams DT
33 Johnathan Jenkins DT
34 Kawann Short DT
35 Johnathan Hankins DT
36 Brandon Williams DT
ROUND 3
37 Desmond Trufant CB
38 Xavier Rhodes CB
39 Tyrann Mathieu CB
40 Dj Hayden CB
41 Blidi Wreh-wilson CB
42 Johnthan Banks CB
43 Jamar Taylor CB
44 Terrance Williams WR
45 Robert Woods WR
46 Justin Hunter WR
47 Larry Warford OG
48 Menelik Watson OT
49 John Cyprien S
50 Eric Reid S
51 Matt Elam S
52 D.j. Swearinger S
53 Manti Te'o ILB
54 Kevin Minter ILB
55 Tyler Eifert TE
56 Zach Ertz* TE
57 Andre Ellington RB
58 Le'veon Bell RB
59 Christine Michael RB
60 Giovani Bernard RB
61 Marcus Lattimore RB
62 Ed Lacy RB
63 Geno Smith QB
64 Ryan Nassib QB
65 Matt Barkley QB
ROUND 4
66 Brian Schwenke OC
67 Justin Pugh OG
68 Kyle Long OG
69 Terron Armstead OT
70 Travis Frederick OC
71 Barrett Jones OC
72 Alvin Bailey OG
73 Lavar Edwards DE
74 Corey Lemonier DE
75 Cornelius Washington DE
76 Robert Alford CB
77 Logan Ryan CB
78 Darius Slay CB
79 Jordan Poyer CB
80 B.W. Webb CB
81 David Amerson CB
82 Shamarko Thomas S
83 Bacarri Rambo S
84 Phillip Thomas S
85 Shawn Williams S
86 Sio Moore OLB
87 Khaseem Greene OLB
88 Kiko Alonso ILB
89 Jamie Collins OLB
90 Brandon Jenkins OLB
91 Markus Wheaton WR
92 Stedman Bailey WR
93 Tavarres King WR
94 Kenny Stills WR
95 Marquess Wilson WR
96 Da'rick Rogers WR
97 Gavin Escobar TE
98 Jordan Reed TE
99 Travis Kelce TE
100 Vance Mcdonald TE
101 Dion Sims TE
102 Landry Jones QB
103 EJ Manuel QB
104 Mike Glennon QB
105 Tyler Wilson QB
106 Tyler Bray QB
107 Michael Buchanan DE
108 William Gholston DE
109 Malliciah Goodman DE
110 Bennie Logan DT
111 Akeem Spence DT
112 Jordan Hill DT
113 Dallas Thomas OG
114 Brian Winters OG
115 Jordan Mills OT
116 Oday Aboushi OG
117 Ricky Wagner OT
118 Brennan Williams OT
119 Xavier Nixon OT
120 David Bakhtiari OT
121 Steve Williams CB
122 Marc Anthony CB
123 Leon Mcfadden CB
124 Nickell Robey CB
125 Kevin Reddick ILB
126 DeVonte Holloman OLB
127 Chase Thomas OLB
128 Montee Ball RB
129 Kerwynn Williams RB
130 Mike Gillislee RB
131 Jawan Jamison RB
132 Johnathan Franklin RB
ROUND 5
133 Montori Hughes DT
134 Kwame Geathers DT
135 Khaled Holmes OC
136 David Quessenberry OT
137 Duke Williams S
138 J. J. Wilcox S
ROUND 6
139 Denard Robinson WR
140 Chris Harper WR
141 Ryan Swope WR
142 Sean Porter OLB
143 Ty Powell OLB
144 Vince Williams ILB
145 Zaviar Gooden OLB
146 Jelani Jenkins OLB
147 Jonathan Bostic ILB
148 Nico Johnson ILB
149 Cobi Hamilton WR
150 Aaron Mellette WR
151 Josh Boyce WR
152 Marquise Goodwin WR
153 Ace Sanders WR
154 Hugh Thornton OG
155 J.C. Tretter OG
156 Jeff Baca OG
157 Devin Taylor DE
158 Trevardo Williams DE
159 Quanterus Smith DE
160 John Simon DE
161 Stansly Maponga DE
162 Joe Kruger DE
163 Walter Stewart DE
164 David Bass DE
165 Kenjon Barner RB
166 Joseph Randle RB
167 Stepfan Taylor RB
168 Dennis Johnson RB
169 Dwayne Gratz CB
170 Sanders Commings CB
171 Will Davis CB
ROUND 7
172 Chris Faulk OT
173 Knile Davis RB
174 T.j. Mcdonald S
175 Tony Jefferson S
176 Michael Williams TE
177 Nick Kasa TE
178 Joseph Fauria TE
179 Levine Toilolo TE
180 Philip Lutzenkirchen TE
181 Chris Gragg TE
182 Jake Stoneburner TE
183 Tharold Simon CB
184 Johnny Adams CB
185 Josh Johnson CB
186 Terry Hawthorne CB
187 Demetrius Mccray CB
188 Adrian Bushell CB
189 Khalid Wooten CB
190 Rod Sweeting CB
191 Micah Hyde CB
192 Conner Vernon WR
193 Alec Lemon WR
194 Mark Harrison WR
195 Corey Fuller WR
196 Theo Riddick WR
197 Zach Rodgers WR
198 Marcus Davis WR
199 Quinn Sharp PT
200 Dustin Hopkins PK
201 Ryan Allen PT
202 Caleb Sturgis PK
203 Brad Wing PT
204 Jeff Locke PT
205 Brett Maher PK
206 Matt Scott QB
207 Sean Renfree QB
208 Zac Dysert QB
209 Collin Klein QB
210 Luke Marquardt OT
211 Reid Fragel OT
212 Emmett Cleary OT
213 Garrett Gilkey OG
214 Edmund Kugbila OG
215 Robert Lester S
216 Earl Wolff S
217 Daimion Stafford S
218 Michael Ford RB
219 Miguel Maysonet RB
220 Zachary Stacy RB
221 Cierre Wood RB
222 Cory Grissom DT
223 Everett Dawkins DT
224 Josh Boyd DT
225 Stacy Mcgee DT
226 Armonty Bryant DE
227 Kapron Lewis-Moore DE
228 Michael Mauti ILB
229 Tom Wort ILB
230 Nick Moody OLB
231 John Lotulelei ILB
232 Lerentee Mccray OLB
233 Steve Beauharnais ILB
234 Gerald Hodges OLB
235 A.J. Klein ILB
236 Rex Burkhead RB
237 Spencer Ware RB
238 Roger Gaines OT
239 Braxston Cave OC
240 Oscar Johnson OT
241 Lamar Mady OG
242 T.j. Johnson OC
243 Nick Becton OT
244 Matt Stankiewitch OC
245 Nicholas Williams DT
246 Joshua Evans S
247 Ryan Spadola WR
248 Onterio Mccalebb RB
249 Kyle Juszczyk FB
250 Tommy Bohanon FB
251 Jared Smith DT
252 Quinton Dial DE
253 Mark Jackson OT
254 Earl Watford OG
 

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I had a rough time handling Ansah at the start. But then I buried my grandfather and realized the Lions came out of that April weekend a lot more talented than they went in. It's put up or get the fuck out after this season for a parties involved. Atleast the parties that don't workout and wear helmets for a living anyway.
 

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Dude you have half of the guys who went in round 1 as 2nd round prospects if I'm reading this right.
 

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That means: The young man has a weakness for opioids. Preferably heroin. But most likely also opium and liquid codein.
 

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He also spells his last name in a silly way. Which I don't really mind. But I do mind the opioid dependence. Wish him luck with though. He's gonna need it.
 

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It means the Lions shouldn't draft recovering heroin addicts in the 3rd round (or any round really).

Maybe the seventh. But I wouldn't have let him come to camp this year. A trip around the sun without a little poppy pleasure would be required if I were running things.
 

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Dude you have half of the guys who went in round 1 as 2nd round prospects if I'm reading this right.
We picked #5, so that would leave players 6 through 256 as possibilities for us in round 2...yes?
 

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You can fool me once, so yes I would believe you and then ask for details how you know.

Now I know for a fact that you aren't MikeD(never thought you were) As he hates repeating himself, and he and I went thru this once. What kind of details you looking for? (It better not be a link, I hate to disappoint)
 

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It means the Lions shouldn't draft recovering heroin addicts in the 3rd round (or any round really).
I had no idea he had issues with heroin. I thought it was only with pot.
 
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