Schwartz vs. Mayhew feud rumor

[tpaulus_2]

TP was right about you too.

Ohhhh, nice try there Principal, master of psychology. I think we're a bit quicker than the little Thailanders you are in charge of every day. Swarm knows he's my boy ever since we almost drove 250 miles each just to kick eachother's asses...


Speaking of your little Nike-stitchers, do you ever make them call you Dr. Jones?

[YOUTUBE][ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9A_oN6NV8]You Call Him Dr. Jones, Doll! - YouTube[/ame][/YOUTUBE]

 

[tpaulus_2]

No, I really thought you meant Warford. How am I supposed to know what you're thinking I just started debating you like 2 days ago.

I second that. Once you post things like "Stafford is one piece of ass away from pissing all his talent down the drain" or "Broyles is one hit away from following Best out the door" you pretty much lose the benefit of the doubt when it comes to your credibility...

 

[tpaulus_2]

You pretend to have football IQ. I have yet to see it displayed. Time will tell.

You'll figure it out eventually. American football is a tough one for foreigners to get a handle on sometimes.

We'll make you a how-to thread before the season that will help explain stuff...

 

[gandydancer]

I actually see Ansah having a better career, as he's a Lion. (Remember Rule#1?)

Like a true comedian.... great callback!!

 

[tpaulus_2]

I totally agree w you that Schwartz arrogance/confidence in himself had plenty to do with Ansah being the pick. Huge reason why I'm rooting for Schwartz to figure shit out and bring us back to the playoffs. I don't want to to start over with a new HC, OC, DC using players specifically hand picked to play in this Wide 9.

On the upside these new bigger, longer DEs no longer have to be pigeon-holed into the wide-9 if we do have to make changes. Avril was a one-trick pony, but now we've upgraded to complete DEs...

 

[Principal57]

Speaking of your little Nike-stitchers, do you ever make them call you Dr. Jones?

Not too much of a bigot are you.

 

[tpaulus_2]

I have no idea what that means, but for a better perspective of my thinking, here is my BIG BOARD.

Principal57’s 2013 Lions Only Big Board
ROUND 1
1 Lane Johnson OT
2 Eric Fisher OT
3 Luke Joeckel OT
4 Jonathan Cooper OG
5 Chance Warmack OG
ROUND 2
6 Sheldon Richardson DT
7 Sharrif Floyd DT
8 Star Lotulelei DT
9 Dee Milliner CB
10 D.J. Fluker OT
11 Damontre Moore DE
12 Ezekiel Ansah DE
13 Dion Jordan DE
14 Jarvis Jones DE
15 Bjoern Werner DE
16 Datone Jones DE
17 Barkevious Mingo DE
18 Cornellius Carradine DE
19 Sam Montgomery DE
20 Alex Okafor DE
21 Margus Hunt DE
22 Tavon Austin WR
23 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
24 DeAndre Hopkins WR
25 Keenan Allen WR
26 Quinton Patton WR
27 Aaron Dobson WR
28 Kenny Vaccaro S
29 Alec Ogletree OLB
30 Arthur Brown OLB
31 Sylvester Williams DT
32 Jesse Williams DT
33 Johnathan Jenkins DT
34 Kawann Short DT
35 Johnathan Hankins DT
36 Brandon Williams DT
ROUND 3
37 Desmond Trufant CB
38 Xavier Rhodes CB
39 Tyrann Mathieu CB
40 Dj Hayden CB
41 Blidi Wreh-wilson CB
42 Johnthan Banks CB
43 Jamar Taylor CB
44 Terrance Williams WR
45 Robert Woods WR
46 Justin Hunter WR
47 Larry Warford OG
48 Menelik Watson OT
49 John Cyprien S
50 Eric Reid S
51 Matt Elam S
52 D.j. Swearinger S
53 Manti Te'o ILB
54 Kevin Minter ILB
55 Tyler Eifert TE
56 Zach Ertz* TE
57 Andre Ellington RB
58 Le'veon Bell RB
59 Christine Michael RB
60 Giovani Bernard RB
61 Marcus Lattimore RB
62 Ed Lacy RB
63 Geno Smith QB
64 Ryan Nassib QB
65 Matt Barkley QB
ROUND 4
66 Brian Schwenke OC
67 Justin Pugh OG
68 Kyle Long OG
69 Terron Armstead OT
70 Travis Frederick OC
71 Barrett Jones OC
72 Alvin Bailey OG
73 Lavar Edwards DE
74 Corey Lemonier DE
75 Cornelius Washington DE
76 Robert Alford CB
77 Logan Ryan CB
78 Darius Slay CB
79 Jordan Poyer CB
80 B.W. Webb CB
81 David Amerson CB
82 Shamarko Thomas S
83 Bacarri Rambo S
84 Phillip Thomas S
85 Shawn Williams S
86 Sio Moore OLB
87 Khaseem Greene OLB
88 Kiko Alonso ILB
89 Jamie Collins OLB
90 Brandon Jenkins OLB
91 Markus Wheaton WR
92 Stedman Bailey WR
93 Tavarres King WR
94 Kenny Stills WR
95 Marquess Wilson WR
96 Da'rick Rogers WR
97 Gavin Escobar TE
98 Jordan Reed TE
99 Travis Kelce TE
100 Vance Mcdonald TE
101 Dion Sims TE
102 Landry Jones QB
103 EJ Manuel QB
104 Mike Glennon QB
105 Tyler Wilson QB
106 Tyler Bray QB
107 Michael Buchanan DE
108 William Gholston DE
109 Malliciah Goodman DE
110 Bennie Logan DT
111 Akeem Spence DT
112 Jordan Hill DT
113 Dallas Thomas OG
114 Brian Winters OG
115 Jordan Mills OT
116 Oday Aboushi OG
117 Ricky Wagner OT
118 Brennan Williams OT
119 Xavier Nixon OT
120 David Bakhtiari OT
121 Steve Williams CB
122 Marc Anthony CB
123 Leon Mcfadden CB
124 Nickell Robey CB
125 Kevin Reddick ILB
126 DeVonte Holloman OLB
127 Chase Thomas OLB
128 Montee Ball RB
129 Kerwynn Williams RB
130 Mike Gillislee RB
131 Jawan Jamison RB
132 Johnathan Franklin RB
ROUND 5
133 Montori Hughes DT
134 Kwame Geathers DT
135 Khaled Holmes OC
136 David Quessenberry OT
137 Duke Williams S
138 J. J. Wilcox S
ROUND 6
139 Denard Robinson WR
140 Chris Harper WR
141 Ryan Swope WR
142 Sean Porter OLB
143 Ty Powell OLB
144 Vince Williams ILB
145 Zaviar Gooden OLB
146 Jelani Jenkins OLB
147 Jonathan Bostic ILB
148 Nico Johnson ILB
149 Cobi Hamilton WR
150 Aaron Mellette WR
151 Josh Boyce WR
152 Marquise Goodwin WR
153 Ace Sanders WR
154 Hugh Thornton OG
155 J.C. Tretter OG
156 Jeff Baca OG
157 Devin Taylor DE
158 Trevardo Williams DE
159 Quanterus Smith DE
160 John Simon DE
161 Stansly Maponga DE
162 Joe Kruger DE
163 Walter Stewart DE
164 David Bass DE
165 Kenjon Barner RB
166 Joseph Randle RB
167 Stepfan Taylor RB
168 Dennis Johnson RB
169 Dwayne Gratz CB
170 Sanders Commings CB
171 Will Davis CB
ROUND 7
172 Chris Faulk OT
173 Knile Davis RB
174 T.j. Mcdonald S
175 Tony Jefferson S
176 Michael Williams TE
177 Nick Kasa TE
178 Joseph Fauria TE
179 Levine Toilolo TE
180 Philip Lutzenkirchen TE
181 Chris Gragg TE
182 Jake Stoneburner TE
183 Tharold Simon CB
184 Johnny Adams CB
185 Josh Johnson CB
186 Terry Hawthorne CB
187 Demetrius Mccray CB
188 Adrian Bushell CB
189 Khalid Wooten CB
190 Rod Sweeting CB
191 Micah Hyde CB
192 Conner Vernon WR
193 Alec Lemon WR
194 Mark Harrison WR
195 Corey Fuller WR
196 Theo Riddick WR
197 Zach Rodgers WR
198 Marcus Davis WR
199 Quinn Sharp PT
200 Dustin Hopkins PK
201 Ryan Allen PT
202 Caleb Sturgis PK
203 Brad Wing PT
204 Jeff Locke PT
205 Brett Maher PK
206 Matt Scott QB
207 Sean Renfree QB
208 Zac Dysert QB
209 Collin Klein QB
210 Luke Marquardt OT
211 Reid Fragel OT
212 Emmett Cleary OT
213 Garrett Gilkey OG
214 Edmund Kugbila OG
215 Robert Lester S
216 Earl Wolff S
217 Daimion Stafford S
218 Michael Ford RB
219 Miguel Maysonet RB
220 Zachary Stacy RB
221 Cierre Wood RB
222 Cory Grissom DT
223 Everett Dawkins DT
224 Josh Boyd DT
225 Stacy Mcgee DT
226 Armonty Bryant DE
227 Kapron Lewis-Moore DE
228 Michael Mauti ILB
229 Tom Wort ILB
230 Nick Moody OLB
231 John Lotulelei ILB
232 Lerentee Mccray OLB
233 Steve Beauharnais ILB
234 Gerald Hodges OLB
235 A.J. Klein ILB
236 Rex Burkhead RB
237 Spencer Ware RB
238 Roger Gaines OT
239 Braxston Cave OC
240 Oscar Johnson OT
241 Lamar Mady OG
242 T.j. Johnson OC
243 Nick Becton OT
244 Matt Stankiewitch OC
245 Nicholas Williams DT
246 Joshua Evans S
247 Ryan Spadola WR
248 Onterio Mccalebb RB
249 Kyle Juszczyk FB
250 Tommy Bohanon FB
251 Jared Smith DT
252 Quinton Dial DE
253 Mark Jackson OT
254 Earl Watford OG

Looks like you were a long ways off on most of those guys you had as 2nd, 3rd and 4th round prospects, since they ended up going in the 1st round...

 

[gandydancer]

That means: The young man has a weakness for opioids. Preferably heroin. But most likely also opium and liquid codein.

He ate a lot of lemon poppy seed muffins. That is all it was, come on man!! That buffet at LSU was loaded with them.

 

[tpaulus_2]

We picked #5, so that would leave players 6 through 256 as possibilities for us in round 2...yes?

Um, no.

See we picked at # 5, and then the teams at #6 through #32 got to pick. Then at the start of round 2 three more teams got to pick ahead of us. So, with pick #36 players 6 through 35 definitely weren't options for us.

We'll be sure to include a draft primer in that how-to thread we're making you...

 

[tpaulus_2]

If I were doing a big board mine would be BPA from 1-254...

That's generally how they work.

 

[Principal57]

Looks like you were a long ways off on most of those guys you had as 2nd, 3rd and 4th round prospects, since they ended up going in the 1st round...

I guess you have no clue how to read the board then. Let me see if I can explain it to you.
Round 1 - only needed 5 players since we were picking #5...easy to update if they traded.
Round 2 - starts with potentially the 6th best player in the draft and goes through pick #36. Now I would hope it would be pretty easy to understand that nearly all the players on my Round 2 list SHOULD be gone by pick #36 since my list is the best 36 players for Detroit.
Round 3-7 - the pattern continues...you see the concept here is if every player I like for Detroit is gone, we settle for my 5th, 36th, 65th, 132nd and so on.

Simple enough to understand. Basically they ALL should be or could be gone. SHEESH.

 

[Principal57]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBase
If I were doing a big board mine would be BPA from 1-254...

TP "That's generally how they work."

I on the other hand would like to fill specific needs with the best player available.

 

[tpaulus_2]

No reason to include more than 5 players in round 1 when you pick #5.

Most big boards rank players 1 through 300 (or however many players each team wants to rank), not one through that team's pick, then just dump the rest of the players to the team's pick the next round. That don't make no sense 'tall...

 

[tpaulus_2]

Speaking of your little Nike-stitchers, do you ever make them call you Dr. Jones?

Not too much of a bigot are you.

No, not too much at all... why do you ask?

 

[gandydancer]

If only Gandy was actually Matlock, we'd get to the bottom of this before the next commercial break. (Witness Stand confession, from someone that's isn't on trial)

Can I call the one and only Mr. Smit~Tay to the stand?

Answer these questions.
1) Does MikeD have one (one of) of the biggest ego's on here? ( cocky, confidence call it what you want)
2) Have you ever seen MikeD post about the salary cap?
3) Now ask yourself, if MikeD knew 6% of the cap rules. We would have been educated and seen a debate with Tpaul about said 6% already.

I wrote of these findings about 3fitty2 pages ago...

 

[tpaulus_2]

I guess you have no clue how to read the board then. Let me see if I can explain it to you.
Round 1 - only needed 5 players since we were picking #5...easy to update if they traded.
Round 2 - starts with potentially the 6th best player in the draft and goes through pick #36. Now I would hope it would be pretty easy to understand that nearly all the players on my Round 2 list SHOULD be gone by pick #36 since my list is the best 36 players for Detroit.
Round 3-7 - the pattern continues...you see the concept here is if every player I like for Detroit is gone, we settle for my 5th, 36th, 65th, 132nd and so on.

Simple enough to understand. Basically they ALL should be or could be gone. SHEESH.

I think the issue is much more that you have no clue on how to make a big board, not that I have no clue how to read one.

Why put a bunch of players on your round two list that "SHOULD be gone" by our pick at the top of the 2nd round? That's just unnecessarily complicated.

A simple 1 though XXX makes far more sense.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBase
If I were doing a big board mine would be BPA from 1-254...

TP "That's generally how they work."

I on the other hand would like to fill specific needs with the best player available.

Maybe, but the problem is that the clock would expire on our pick because everyone in the war room would be looking at their key trying to decipher who is left on that convoluted nonsense you're trying to pass of as a big board...

 

[Principal57]

Speaking of your little Nike-stitchers, do you ever make them call you Dr. Jones? Quote:
Not too much of a bigot are you.
TP: "No, not too much at all... why do you ask?"

Not too ignorant either I see. First you call the people of Thailand "Nike-stitchers" when there are over 700 Nike factories worldwide with only 1 in Thailand. Secondly, you do not even recognize that you are acting like a bigot.

 

[Principal57]

Maybe, but the problem is that the clock would expire on our pick because everyone in the war room would be looking at their key trying to decipher who is left on that convoluted nonsense you're trying to pass of as a big board...

555 convoluted you say...not easy for you to follow a list from 1-254

you are a joke

 

[Principal57]

I think the issue is much more that you have no clue on how to make a big board, not that I have no clue how to read one.

Why put a bunch of players on your round two list that "SHOULD be gone" by our pick at the top of the 2nd round? That's just unnecessarily complicated.

A simple 1 though XXX makes far more sense.

You truly are ignorant. You seriously think the Lions take players off of their Big Board before they are drafted? Wake the hell up.

You really need to find the video that Daniel Jeremiah did on war rooms. He basically breaks down exactly what goes on and believe me the Lions did not look at a list of 254 players during Round 1. They pulled off maybe 10 at most if they were considering trading down.

CLUELESS