Saban & Bielema behind the kill uptempo offense rule

[4down20]

Untrue. I've seen teams run 3 plays in 15 seconds in 2 minute drill offense and so have you.

Within the ball being SET, sure.

You do realize that the playclock can run even while the regular clock isn't?

 

[LawDawg]

Oh Snap!

And in that same spirit....I hope you enjoy getting this rule passed. "roll eyes"

Sorry you got your jimmies rustled. Was just saying that we obviously disagree. One of us will get what we want the other won't. At the end of the day, won't ruin either of our lives.

 

[charlie42s]

What the fuck are you talking about? This is about being able to substitute players. Defenses defend? Wow, powerful stuff there!

Hey, I was making fun of your statement.

Which means the defense is forced to defend the entire time and can't substitute.

The defense can always call a time out to substitute or fake an injury.

 

[LawDawg]

It's not hard to see the crybaby whiners that are scared of uptempo offenses. Mostly TEAM SEC fans that think that it's not football if you aren't running every play and there HAS to be a problem if your QB can pass for more than 150 yards a game

Yeah, because we are so concerned that with our level of recruiting, talent, and coaching we won't be able to make the adjustment if it is needed.

 

[4down20]

Hey, I was making fun of your statement.

The defense can always call a time out to substitute or fake an injury.

Yes, when I think of good football, calling timeouts and faking injuries to make substitutions because the offense runs back to the line and then gets plays from the sideline is what I have in mind.

 

[Bamabino]

Defense can always substitute at any time. However, the play clock is not stopped. If the offense does not substitute, meaning the ball can be snapped at any time.

Only when the offense substitutes is the play clock stopped and no play can start until the defense completes its substitution.

per Sports Illustrated:



"Current rules dictate that defensive players are not guaranteed a chance to substitute unless the offense substitutes first."






Care to continue with your defense can substitute at any time theory?

 

[Camfantasy]

Not they aren't allowed to substitute except for a few seconds between plays. If they substitute and don't make it out there in time, then what happens? The offense is allowed a free play without a defense playing. That is fucked up.

The 40 second play clock starts when the previous play is finished. This gives the defense a guaranteed 10 seconds from the end of the previous play to the start of the next to make these subs. That's it.

It's going to pass, and you can all keep on crying about it.

 

[4down20]

per Sports Illustrated:

"Current rules dictate that defensive players are not guaranteed a chance to substitute unless the offense substitutes first."

Care to continue with your defense can substitute at any time theory?

They are saying that if you run off and on the field fast enough between plays, then you can sub. The consequences of doing that apparently do not matter.

 

[LawDawg]

The defense does have that option.

By rule, yes. In practice against HUNH, no. If that were not the case, we would not be having the discussion.

 

[4down20]

I've read up on it more. Proposed rules rarely do not pass.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

 

[LawDawg]

THAT is true. And it shouldn't be a problem if you have a competent DC.

And, yet it is a problem enough that the NCAA is considering it. Imagine that.

 

[Bamabino]

They are saying that if you run off and on the field fast enough between plays, then you can sub. The consequences of doing that apparently do not matter.

Actually, it's just another chance for the haters to hate on Saban and worship spastics like Leach and Rodriguez.

 

[potzer25]

Man, malzahn and sumlin got saban all jacked up in the brain.


SEC play style is changing, and saban sees his future dimming quickly. Now we will likely get, what will forever be known as, the saban rule.

By rule, yes. But the O has found a way to keep that from happening. If this wasn't true, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sorry, but running to the LOS to take signals does, in fact, inhibit the D from using their skill and preparation. Again, if this was not the case, we would not be having this discussion. The legislative mandate is designed to close a loophole in the rules. I think that is a good thing. You don't. We disagree.

wait. I thought this was all about safety not some unfairness to the defense and being able to get the defensive package personnel substituted.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

So basically they just want to outlaw HUNH offenses? Is that right?

 

[potzer25]

They are saying that if you run off and on the field fast enough between plays, then you can sub. The consequences of doing that apparently do not matter.

It can - and is - done by some teams. If the DC is competent he should be ready to change out a few players quickly after the play stops. I don't see how this is so hard to understand.

 

[Bamabino]

wait. I thought this was all about safety not some unfairness to the defense and being able to get the defensive package personnel substituted.

Injury/fatigue is a part of it. The rules committee lends a greater ear to issues of safety.

 

[Camfantasy]

So basically they just want to outlaw HUNH offenses? Is that right?

Pretty much. They skurred.

 

[4down20]

So basically they just want to outlaw HUNH offenses? Is that right?

Not even close.

 

[4down20]

I'll change my mind if someone can show me some footage of teams outside the final 2 minutes of play(where this rule will not be in effect) running plays consistently within 10 seconds of the previous play ending.

Since it's going to slow teams down so much and be the end of HUNH, it should be easy to find right?