packerzrule
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Have 4 in the books and planning on the 5th tomorrow
Keep it in the short grass fellas
Keep it in the short grass fellas
played 18 on Sunday. Hit the ball well and drained some pretty decent length putts once my hangover wore off. By the 12th hole, I was starting to tire out. The first 18 holes of the season always do that to me.
I need to start walking 9. I have the cart and everything, I just need to get out and use it.Funny how my non-golfing friends think this game is a cakewalk.
I walked and carried 9 at the par 3 last evening on the way home from work...by 7 I was feeling it a little.
Track was in better shape than I expected...for the price I think I'm going to do it more often to build up stamina for my weekend round. Also this needs to be the year my iron play gets the attention it needs...missing too many greens from the fairway.
I need to start walking 9. I have the cart and everything, I just need to get out and use it.
dude I played with last wants to start doing 9 holes after work every other week. Maybe I will see if he wants to walk 9 on Wednesday or something.
Player's 2nd shot on a par 5 goes right, towards OB marked boundary. Player hit a provisional ball in the fairway. Original ball was found (in play) up against a construction silt fence that appeared to be an extension of the OB boundary as there were white stakes on both ends of the silt fence.
Player asked for free relief from the silt fence...one player said he should get it because this was a temporary immovable object.
I agreed. Essentially this is the back edge of the home lot under construction...some houses have a fence right on the OB line, others don't have a fence at all, just the white stakes. This is a temp fence so I told him yes you get 1 club length no nearer the hole. 1 club wasn't going to accomplish much relief so he decided to hit his provisional ball (his 4th shot) nice shot and made the putt for a 6...in his mind.
Wrong I told him...played the wrong ball...so you get a 2 shots penalty at the very least and you are supposed to finish the hole with the original ball, but let's keep it moving on a stacked course.
Your options were...when your original ball was found in play, you must abandon the provisional...from your original ball take your free relief, and then go from there, if you still couldn't advance it, your options, take an unplayable (2 club lengths) which would have gotten him to at least a punch out to the fairway, or replay from your last position.
He said that's what the provisional represented and due to pace of play instead of going back to his last position he should be able to play it because it was going to be his 5th shot anyway, and he made the putt.
If he had taken an unplayable, his 4th was a lateral punch out to maybe the same general area his provisional was so he's right he would've been playing his 5th into the green, but stood my ground on the score and it ended up costing him the back 9 so he was pissed.
Was I wrong?
If the original ball was in play, pick up the provisional...there's a reason it's called that.
Exactly...plain and simple.
I get what he was saying, but you have to go thru the steps with the original ball.
Please clarify how how one club length failed to gain him relief. If he was free and clear of the silt fence but blocked by limbs or something then fine but if one club length did not free his stance and swing from impediment, he's entitled to one club length from that impediment.
I got into this discussion with an older poster and maybe you guys can help me out.
on one of my local course's par 4's, there is a split rail fence that runs close to the left side of the green around to the back. There is very little room around the green before the fence and on the other side of the fence is a road. There is a little bit of grass between the fence and the road, but not a lot.
now if I overshoot the green and this fence is either in front of me or in the way of my swing, what the the ruling? I can't take a drop that puts me closer to the green, right? the other option is to take a drop on the other side of the road? How exactly does that work?
I don't think it is an OB fence. it isn't labeled as one at least. It really doesn't make any sense to me.Is the fence an OB boundary fence? If so, that really sucks.
To my knowledge there is never a case in the rule book where you can drop closer to the hole. "other option is to take a drop on the other side of the road" But...it's also rare for a road to be in play on a golf course...(Road hole @ 17 Old Course I guess).
If it's not an OB fence, maybe there is a special local ruling that would allow you to drop it closer to the hole. If the road is in play, I think dropping on the other side of the road would be my call unless the fence is not an OB and there is a local rule on the fence interference.
I don't think it is an OB fence. it isn't labeled as one at least. It really doesn't make any sense to me.
next time I go play there I am going to ask what the rule is for that hole. There has to be some kind of local rule in place for it.
I have looked, nothing there.You might be able to pull their scorecard up online. Should be listed on the card.
I don't think it is an OB fence. it isn't labeled as one at least. It really doesn't make any sense to me.
next time I go play there I am going to ask what the rule is for that hole. There has to be some kind of local rule in place for it.
I have looked, nothing there.
It's the 15th hole. Road runs along the dotted line on the right side, through the 14 and hangs a left. On the other side of the road is the 16th hole
Calvert County, MD - Official Website - Course Layout
the thing there is that the fence is not very far from the green and it is a downward slope, so if you drop right, you could end up on the green. It is really a terrible hole.If the fence is not an OB fence you should get free relief from a permanent immoveable obstruction, and going across the street for that relief doesn't sound quite right.
Most likely a local rule to allow you drop on the green side on the road even if closer to the hole.
the thing there is that the fence is not very far from the green and it is a downward slope, so if you drop right, you could end up on the green. It is really a terrible hole.If the fence is not an OB fence you should get free relief from a permanent immoveable obstruction, and going across the street for that relief doesn't sound quite right.
Most likely a local rule to allow you drop on the green side on the road even if closer to the hole.
the thing there is that the fence is not very far from the green and it is a downward slope, so if you drop right, you could end up on the green. It is really a terrible hole.