Rosterbation version 1.0

[SFGRTB]

Anyone think the Giants may take a stab at Xavier Nady? I feel like he's the kind of player that Brian Sabean will take a chance on. He's had some productive years in the past but has battled some injury-plagued seasons lately. I think he's a Scott Boras client but maybe we can sign him to a deal similar to Aubrey Huffs. He's also from Salinas which might intrigue him. Let me know if I'm off on Nady but my most fond memories of him was when he was ripping it up on the Pirates.

IMO, you're off. But only because I see us re-signing Huff and if we don't do that, letting Belt compete for the job or keep the seat warm and put Pablo at 1st and DeRosa at 3rd until they feel he's ready (or after the 'super two' cutoff).

 

[tzill]

I think Torres will get anything around 2-3 mil in arbitration.

Tid, are you missing a "don't" here?

 

[tzill]

IMO, you're off. But only because I see us re-signing Huff and if we don't do that, letting Belt compete for the job or keep the seat warm and put Pablo at 1st and DeRosa at 3rd until they feel he's ready (or after the 'super two' cutoff).

Nady is intriguing. He had an awful 2009, but is only 32 and was pretty consistent until last year. He's a 275/330/450 type guy when right, which would make him a reserve OF. I think he's a downgrade from Burrell, and we already have Nate (a 270/315/400 guy with much better defense) as a reserve. He'd only be interesting if we were able to trade Rowand.

 

[TKellion]

So you want Crawford,Werth and Beltre in FA.Are we going with a 140 mil payroll.In order to do that we would have to boot any bench player making more than the league min.

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2011 Salaries
C Buster Posey 850K
1B Brandon Belt 400k
2B Freddy Sanchez 6 mil
SS Brandon Crawford 400k
3B Adrian Beltre 15 mil (4 year 60m)
LF Carl Crawford 18 mil (6 year 108m)
CF Andres Torres 2 mil (2 year 4mil)
RF Jason Werth 17 mil (5 year 85 mil)

$59.65 million

Bench
1B Travis Ishikawa 450K
2B,SS Manny Burris 400k
3B,1B,C Pablo Sandoval 400k
LF,RF Nate Schierholtz 450k
CF Aaron Rowand 12 mil


$73.35 million

SP Tim Lincecum 13 mil
SP Matt Cain 7 mil
SP Jonathan Sanchez 4 mil (3 year 12 mil)
SP Madison Bumgarner $400K
Sp Barry Zito $18.5 mil

$116.25 million

RP Juoaquin Waldis 400k
RP Dan Runzler 400K
RP Santiago Casilla 750K
RP Sergio Romo 450K
RP Henry Sosa 400k
RP Javier Lopez 1.5 mil
RP Jeremy Affeldt 4.5 mil
CL Brian Wilson 6.5 mil

$130.40 million

1.CF-Torres
2.C-Posey
3.LF-Crawford
4.RF-Werth
5.3B-Beltre
6.1B-Belt
7.2B-Sanchez
8.SS-Crawford
That's how much it would cost if not more to bring in Werth,Crawford and Beltre.We have a top rated defensive SS in Crawford.Plus Belt would have to start the season at 1B we already know Ishikawa cant hit.Fontenot,Ross and Derosa traded for peanuts the rest sent to AAA or released.That lineup looks kinda sexy
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[SFGRTB]

What about Grady Sizemore of the Cleveland Indians?

His value right now is extremely low coming off of 2 injury seasons, but most people have forgoten about him. And he is relativley cheap, earning $7.5 million next year and a $8.5 million team option the year after.

In 08', he put up a .268/.374/.502 with 33 HRs and 38 SBs, 130 K's and 98 BBs. And he's still only 28.

RF- Torres
2B- Sanchez
CF- Sizemore
C- Posey
1B- Huff
LF- Ross
3B- Sandoval
SS- Uribe/Renteria/Crawford/Hardy

Sexy

 

[BigGiantsFan]

Google "Grady Sizemore coffee mug".

Thats why i say no. haha

 

[nateistheshi]

What about Grady Sizemore of the Cleveland Indians?

His value right now is extremely low coming off of 2 injury seasons, but most people have forgoten about him. And he is relativley cheap, earning $7.5 million next year and a $8.5 million team option the year after.

In 08', he put up a .268/.374/.502 with 33 HRs and 38 SBs, 130 K's and 98 BBs. And he's still only 28.

RF- Torres
2B- Sanchez
CF- Sizemore
C- Posey
1B- Huff
LF- Ross
3B- Sandoval
SS- Uribe/Renteria/Crawford/Hardy

Sexy

I think that's a great idea actually. I don't know what we could send to Cleveland to get him without including our untouchables, probably something along the lines of Sandoval + Neal + Peguero.


On a side note it looks like scouts and fans like Belt more and more everytime they see him:

Brandon Belt love - Belt talks swing mechanics & gets accolades - McCovey Chronicles

 

[filosofy29]

So you want Crawford,Werth and Beltre in FA.Are we going with a 140 mil payroll.In order to do that we would have to boot any bench player making more than the league min.

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2011 Salaries
C Buster Posey 850K
1B Brandon Belt 400k
2B Freddy Sanchez 6 mil
SS Brandon Crawford 400k
3B Adrian Beltre 15 mil (4 year 60m)
LF Carl Crawford 18 mil (6 year 108m)
CF Andres Torres 2 mil (2 year 4mil)
RF Jason Werth 17 mil (5 year 85 mil)

$59.65 million

Bench
1B Travis Ishikawa 450K
2B,SS Manny Burris 400k
3B,1B,C Pablo Sandoval 400k
LF,RF Nate Schierholtz 450k
CF Aaron Rowand 12 mil


$73.35 million

SP Tim Lincecum 13 mil
SP Matt Cain 7 mil
SP Jonathan Sanchez 4 mil (3 year 12 mil)
SP Madison Bumgarner $400K
Sp Barry Zito $18.5 mil

$116.25 million

RP Juoaquin Waldis 400k
RP Dan Runzler 400K
RP Santiago Casilla 750K
RP Sergio Romo 450K
RP Henry Sosa 400k
RP Javier Lopez 1.5 mil
RP Jeremy Affeldt 4.5 mil
CL Brian Wilson 6.5 mil

$130.40 million

1.CF-Torres
2.C-Posey
3.LF-Crawford
4.RF-Werth
5.3B-Beltre
6.1B-Belt
7.2B-Sanchez
8.SS-Crawford
That's how much it would cost if not more to bring in Werth,Crawford and Beltre.We have a top rated defensive SS in Crawford.Plus Belt would have to start the season at 1B we already know Ishikawa cant hit.Fontenot,Ross and Derosa traded for peanuts the rest sent to AAA or released.That lineup looks kinda sexy
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TK, who was saying that they'd want all 3 of those guys. I think that's a pipe dream even for the Yankees, yet alone the Giants. TBH, I don't see any of the three in SF next season. Unless Management has a frontal lobotomy over the winter.

 

[SFGRTB]

I think that's a great idea actually. I don't know what we could send to Cleveland to get him without including our untouchables, probably something along the lines of Sandoval + Neal + Peguero.


On a side note it looks like scouts and fans like Belt more and more everytime they see him:

Brandon Belt love - Belt talks swing mechanics & gets accolades - McCovey Chronicles

That's pretty much the package I was thinking of. The more I think about it, the more I love it, guy's a stud.

 

[Heathbar012]

That's pretty much the package I was thinking of. The more I think about it, the more I love it, guy's a stud.

... when he plays. I like Sizemore's game, too. He is definitely a 5-tool ball player when he is 100%. The thing is the Giants would be taking all of the risk in that scenario. Three potential starters is a hefty price for a player that may or may not ever get back to playing as well as he did two years ago. The Giants are in a unique situation where they can allow some of their prospects to mature and see what they have for decades to come while still playing championship-caliber baseball. No need to roll the dice. I like the thinking, but I don't see it happening or paying off as well as we'd hope if it did.

 

[SFAnthem]

"Let the young guys play"!

remember that mantra?

I'm still for it..could always trade for a bat mid-season :p

I want to see what a full year of Posey and Torres and a possible resurgence of Panda would look like.

 

[TKellion]

TK, who was saying that they'd want all 3 of those guys. I think that's a pipe dream even for the Yankees, yet alone the Giants. TBH, I don't see any of the three in SF next season. Unless Management has a frontal lobotomy over the winter.

Someone over on the PSD board.I saw it and had some fun with it.Then I copied it and posted it here too because the lineup is sexy even if its unrealistic

 

[filosofy29]

Someone over on the PSD board.I saw it and had some fun with it.Then I copied it and posted it here too because the lineup is sexy even if its unrealistic

Gotcha, you confused me for a bit there.

 

[tzill]

What about Grady Sizemore of the Cleveland Indians?

His value right now is extremely low coming off of 2 injury seasons, but most people have forgoten about him. And he is relativley cheap, earning $7.5 million next year and a $8.5 million team option the year after.

In 08', he put up a .268/.374/.502 with 33 HRs and 38 SBs, 130 K's and 98 BBs. And he's still only 28.

RF- Torres
2B- Sanchez
CF- Sizemore
C- Posey
1B- Huff
LF- Ross
3B- Sandoval
SS- Uribe/Renteria/Crawford/Hardy

Sexy

Bill James has him projected out to 265/355/455, which would be a downgrade from Burrell, who is a superior defender. He'd also be more expensive than Pat, AND we'd have to give someone up to get him. His only upside is age, but we'd be banking on a big rebound. Not a Sabean type player.