Revis ......A Jet Again

[BigKen]

According to Adam Shecter................Darrell Revis will be signed as a Jet..............he tweets that the Patriots are making a last minute push.....................

 

[patspa]

Yeah WFAn reporting that also, Pats cant match don't have enough resources Now Browner is gone to according to reports. WTF

 

[PatsFan2003]

WTF is right. Boy... another 10 more years of Tyrone Wheatley, Wilhite and Darius Butler.

 

[flyingelvis]

WTF is right. Boy... another 10 more years of Tyrone Wheatley, Wilhite and Darius Butler.

This.

It's starting to look like the Pats badly misplayed this. I can't believe that defensive backfield we had last year is a one and done. Glad we got that 4th ring which takes some sting out of this.

 

[patspa]

per La Confora as of a little while ago

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h 1 hour ago


Revis's reps have told teams they have $48M for 3yrs on the table now, with $40M guaranteed. My sense if that is from the Jets...

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h 1 hour ago


We'll see if any one else trumps that. Patriots had been in the mid-30s in terms of guaranteed money. KC has been in it as well.

Pats ante up

 

[BigKen]

I spent last night watching game on my DVR rather than bitching in here.

I honestly believe that I saw why Revis was not paid ridiculous money. Against the Broncos Sanders toasted him the entire game, even after getting hurt tackling Ninkovich on an interception. Sanders beat him down the sideline and across the middle the entire game. From my seat, Mnning actually went after Revis. Sanders had the most catches and yardage in a loss for the Broncos.

Next....the Colts. Revis had Moncrief who only caught one pass. Logan Ryan and Malcolm Butler held T.Y. Hilton to one catch.

Then I watched the playoff games and the Super Bowl. During these games, Revis was never on the best WR full time like his heyday in NY. Malcolm Butler covered the fastest guys throughout the playoffs and only came off the field when those guys were off the field.

What I'm saying here is my personal opinion, nothing more. I don't believe that Revis would have renegotiated his contract and stayed in New England under any condition. There are several reasons:

Most Important.....EGO......The never was a Revis Island in New England. Revis was nothing more than a piece of the Patriot Machine. He was a critical piece and much of it had to do with reputation not performance.

In New York he will be "The Man", Revis Island will be back and the spotlight will shine brightly on him. Exactly as he wants it to be. If he has to cover a top class speed wide receiver like Mike Wallace, he's going to pray that those light don't burn.

Second......MONEY.........Woody Johnson wanted him back at any cost. No matter how high the Patriots went, Woody had more cap room and more will to spend.

Third.......COMFORT........Revis had a great time in New York and was disappointed that Idsak traded him to Tampa Bay. Woody apologized with a dump truck full of green.....U.S. Currency and Team colors.

Fourth......SUPER BOWL RING......He got it with a very good team and doesn't need anything else on his hands. Will be big time to show what awaits an equally good team........problem is, won't be New York.

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

....I'm hearing that the pats were only $4-million (overall) less than the jests,........if true, than Revi$ can go ~roll~ his pennies in Woody's [money-room],........I guess the Ground Round restaurant wasn't good enough for revis ....?

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

*........in guaranteed $$$.

 

[TxHeat]

....I'm hearing that the pats were only $4-million (overall) less than the jests,........if true, than Revi$ can go ~roll~ his pennies in Woody's [money-room],........I guess the Ground Round restaurant wasn't good enough for revis ....?

I'm moving on. You can count on two things. 1 - the Pats will be in the playoffs and 2- the Jests won't!

BOOM!!!

 

[BigKen]

I heard about 2:00 AM this morning that they only about $2.8M apart but that the Jets were willing to go $48M guaranteed and the Patriots were not going to get into one up game with the Jets. Also heard that Rex Ryan tried to jump into the fray but realized he didn't even have cab fare......

 

[TxHeat]

So you have wonder, how much tampering actually went on from the Jets side on Revis and is the league really going to do anything about it since it was against the Pats? I'm guessing the league blows it off.

 

[TP76]

So you have wonder, how much tampering actually went on from the Jets side on Revis and is the league really going to do anything about it since it was against the Pats? I'm guessing the league blows it off.

That and that fact that the league offices are manned by former Jets (Kensil/Goodell) - doesn't bode well. After deflategate gets put to bed, hope Kraft's next order of business is giving the League offices an enormous enema!

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

I heard about 2:00 AM this morning that they only about $2.8M apart but that the Jets were willing to go $48M guaranteed and the Patriots were not going to get into one up game with the Jets. Also heard that Rex Ryan tried to jump into the fray but realized he didn't even have cab fare......

.....Felgar and Mazz/radio show had the whole "complicated" breakdown on what the pats offered,.....from what they said = revis would've gone with the pats if they matched the jets $39/40-million guaranteed offer.

 

[BigKen]

The Pats would not do the same guarantee. Jets gave Revis $39M guaranteed for TWO years and if he is there for the third it's $48M guaranteed.

If the Pats had matched what the Jets did, the cap hit for 2015 would be $21M. If the Patriots had no problem with that, they would have picked up the option.

This is straight from Miguel Benzan the cap guru. Dale Arnold laid it out on WEEI this afternoon about 2:00 PM.

Oh yeah, if Revis gets hurt, the $39M is guaranteed.

 

[BigKen]

The Patriots offered Revis the following contract....

4 years $60M. $18M signing bonus and a guarantee of $35M. That's when the Jets offered $20M signing bonus, $39M guaranteed over the first two years and $48M guaranteed if he made the roster in year three. Total contract is 5 years, $70M.

As I said before, if the Patriots want to pay the 20 millions, they would have picked up the option on Revis' contract. The scale of this contract is messy. He now accounts for 16% of the Jets CAP. He would accounted for 18% of the Patriots and BB does not have anyone near that.

As was stated last night, Revis has had knee surgery and it has affected his speed and closing burst. That will not improve as time goes on. A lot of his defense is based on history and reputation. I'd be willing to wager he'll get exposed even more this year as coaches look over last year's games and who he was covering.

 

[GNG]

According to Adam Shecter................Darrell Revis will be signed as a Jet..............he tweets that the Patriots are making a last minute push.....................

The Jets have guaranteed 39 million on his contract.

 

[cdumler7]

The Patriots offered Revis the following contract....

4 years $60M. $18M signing bonus and a guarantee of $35M. That's when the Jets offered $20M signing bonus, $39M guaranteed over the first two years and $48M guaranteed if he made the roster in year three. Total contract is 5 years, $70M.

As I said before, if the Patriots want to pay the 20 millions, they would have picked up the option on Revis' contract. The scale of this contract is messy. He now accounts for 16% of the Jets CAP. He would accounted for 18% of the Patriots and BB does not have anyone near that.

As was stated last night, Revis has had knee surgery and it has affected his speed and closing burst. That will not improve as time goes on. A lot of his defense is based on history and reputation. I'd be willing to wager he'll get exposed even more this year as coaches look over last year's games and who he was covering.

You have to remember the Jets though can do this because the Quarterback position is going to be so cheap for them. Good chance this year that they try to Mariota so having him on a rookie contract allows them to overpay for another position such as Corner. I do agree though that him I think being 30 pretty much means physically he has peaked. I will say though those top corners because of how good of technique they have seem to be able to do quite a bit as they make up for the loss of physical ability. There is a reason he still finished 4th on PFF in the Corner position. Heck Champ Bailey even at at 34 was still a top-10 Corner. Now when he hit the wall he really hit the wall and just dropped off the face of the earth but until then the guy was money.

 

[TxHeat]

The Patriots offered Revis the following contract....

4 years $60M. $18M signing bonus and a guarantee of $35M. That's when the Jets offered $20M signing bonus, $39M guaranteed over the first two years and $48M guaranteed if he made the roster in year three. Total contract is 5 years, $70M.

As I said before, if the Patriots want to pay the 20 millions, they would have picked up the option on Revis' contract. The scale of this contract is messy. He now accounts for 16% of the Jets CAP. He would accounted for 18% of the Patriots and BB does not have anyone near that.

As was stated last night, Revis has had knee surgery and it has affected his speed and closing burst. That will not improve as time goes on. A lot of his defense is based on history and reputation. I'd be willing to wager he'll get exposed even more this year as coaches look over last year's games and who he was covering.

The Jets will have to plug all their other holes at the Dollar Store.

 

[BigKen]

CD you make an excellent point. As I wrote yesterday, I watch 6 Patriots games on my DVR over the last two days and in particular I watched Revis. I can say with complete honesty that Peyton Manning went right at Revis when he was covering Emmanual Sanders and literally picked on him because he could NOT stay with Sanders. It didn't matter whether Sanders cut across the middle or went straight up the sideline, Revis' technique was nowhere near enough to cover him. The more I watch that game, the more I wonder why Manning just didn't go to Sanders, play after play until the Patriots were forced into a different coverage scheme. In my opinion, this is where the axe started to fall on John Fox. If the Broncos had exposed Revis more, forced the Patriots' hand, that game would have been a hell of a lot closer.

 

[cdumler7]

CD you make an excellent point. As I wrote yesterday, I watch 6 Patriots games on my DVR over the last two days and in particular I watched Revis. I can say with complete honesty that Peyton Manning went right at Revis when he was covering Emmanual Sanders and literally picked on him because he could NOT stay with Sanders. It didn't matter whether Sanders cut across the middle or went straight up the sideline, Revis' technique was nowhere near enough to cover him. The more I watch that game, the more I wonder why Manning just didn't go to Sanders, play after play until the Patriots were forced into a different coverage scheme. In my opinion, this is where the axe started to fall on John Fox. If the Broncos had exposed Revis more, forced the Patriots' hand, that game would have been a hell of a lot closer.

You are exactly right in one of the biggest reasons the Broncos coaches are gone. They were one of the worst in the league at game planning. They pretty much tried to do the exact same things all year long even when they were not working thinking they just had enough great players that they didn't need to actually do anything from game to game. Elway hated this about Fox probably more than anything and why the Broncos especially struggled in the bigger games of the year.

I do think Revis has lost a step like you said so him covering guys like Sanders who are not only quick off the snap but have good top end speed too are probably not the guys for him to be covering. If I were the Patriots that is actually where I would have given more help in that game compared to DT on Browner as I think that was a good match up for Browner. Against any other kind of receiver though I think Revis can still be a top-5 guy in this league for the next few years. Now having said that him being that is not worth the money that the Jets are giving him. He is a great player don't get me wrong but I think you can pay about 3-4 players that much money that would be quality starters for the team that would make a bigger overall impact.

Unfortunately with the NFL this is just part of the game in teams have to see good players go. Heck this year I have watched some of my favorite Broncos over the last couple of years in guys like Franklin head out the door. It is a business decision all the way.

As for NE. I do think if they lose Browner and Revis that it will be a blow to the team for sure. Hard to replace those two guys with matching talent. At the same time the Patriots have shown their system is above that of what any one player can bring to the system. They will be right back in the running this next year for the Super Bowl just like always.