I think usually you have to just get lucky and hit on one player; a RB or QB. You get an elite player at a position like that and it can win you a lot of games and change a lot of perception about the program in 3-4 seasons.
Yep. That's one of the perfect situations you were referencing. Happens pretty often if the coach is good.
Two conference championships in the past four years. You're about a retard and a half.
Let's look at the blue chip (4/5*) QBs and RBs both schools have gotten over the last 5 years:
That's only two positions. I think the last time I calculated this Michigan had 1/3 the top 100 talent on it's roster compared to OSU. It was like 42 players to 13. Michigan does have its share of talent. It just doesn't have the talent OSU does.
But you said you have to "get lucky" and hit on one of those 2 positions. OSU does it year in/year out, but michigan has failed on both ends.
Right. And at PSU it's not been much different. PSU has two wins against OSU since 2009. Michigan has one. Since 2002 Michigan has two wins, PSU has 4. Neither team is doing great and the talent gap plays a significant part. PSU's most recent win in 2016 was that "once in a while" win I referenced earlier where things click; mostly because they hit on Barkley. Michigan came 1 call away from the same thing in 2016. Either way, no one in the country is consistently winning against OSU unless you count OSU losing to teams like Alabama/Clemson in bowl games. And no one in the B10 will, including Michigan, until we can come close in recruiting. If Michigan had the same record against OSU that PSU does, we'd still be getting ripped apart by the media and OSU fans for not beating them. Had we won in 2016 it probably wouldn't have changed the narrative much.
Dude, the last 3 years of OSU/Penn State and OSU/michigan have been dramatically different. In 17/18 against PSU, we needed 4th quarter comebacks to escape by 1. In 2019, when we were still fully healthy, they played us closer than anyone in the regular season, and by a wide margin.
I think the major difference there is OSU preps all year for us. Not PSU. Michigan took a game late with John O'Korn as the starting QB.
And you would be wrong. Unless you're saying Harbaugh doesn't know how to coach his guys up, because there's no question that's true.
The players have stated they practice for UM all year. I just don't think they spend a day a week 365 prepping for PSU.
They are pumped for michigan all year. They're not game-prepping for them all year. Huge difference. Do you think the week before they play Penn State, they're focusing on stopping michigan? Do you really think that a coach like Urban Meyer has his kids unprepared to play against (what have been) top 5-10 Penn State teams because he's studying film of michigan the week before? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Ryan Day Talks Preparing for Michigan All Year, the Wolverines' Talent Level and Ohio State's Gritty Win Over Penn State
LOL that's not game-prep. That's working out with a theme. And again, if it's public knowledge that OSU is thinking of clobbering michigan all year and your coach can't even get his players pumped up for it on gameday, then your coach is garbage, so you're just proving my point.
That's not suggesting Michigan isn't doing the same thing for OSU. The problem is, back to the talent, that they're facing a team with 3x the top end talent on it. All things equal. All prep equal. OSU should beat Michigan every year based on the talent on the team. Michigan has to overcome that.
UW won the conference in 2016 and 2018. Try harder.
You've done quite the mental gymnastics to try to prove that Harbaugh is doing a good job. Your explanation has failed with flying colors, but still impressive.
This isn't necessarily about Harbaugh but the expectations. No matter who the coach is they're going to struggle against OSU until we can match their recruiting. I even think Harbaugh might get a win sooner or later. I don't think that changes anything unless recruiting gains come with it.
