Rank the Most Important Positions

[PhoenixEagles1]

You're using appeal to authority fallacy. Kickers are a great example ironically of an actually valuable position that is flooded with talent; ie easy to obtain.

Yes, im using the idea that GMs know football better than me. Bellicheck knows football better than me and hes NEVER drafted a Center in the first 3 rounds.

Every position in football is important. Every. But interms of what you want most, Center is way down the list.

 

[SteelersPride]

i think we have someone who may just be a little
slow

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Yes, im using the idea that GMs know football better than me. Bellicheck knows football better than me and hes NEVER drafted a Center in the first 3 rounds.

Every position in football is important. Every. But interms of what you want most, Center is way down the list.

So, appeal to authority fallacy.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

So, appeal to authority fallacy.

I will. The experts know more than me. Let me think whose word i take more... Bill Bellicheck or Theres a Moose at 3rd. It aint a fallacy. Let me guess, the Browns are gonna start balling when they use there picks on Centers.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I will. The experts know more than me. Let me think whose word i take more... Bill Bellicheck or Theres a Moose at 3rd. It aint a fallacy. Let me guess, the Browns are gonna start balling when they use there picks on Centers.

argumentum ad auctoritatem

Your logical fallacy is appeal to authority

 

[GNG]

Head Coach and QB.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

argumentum ad auctoritatem

Your logical fallacy is appeal to authority

Its not a fallacy though. Damn kicker is important. I hope the Browns grab one with the first pick. You keep screaming this fallacy thing but its not a fallacy. Teams dont draft cheer leaders in round one cause they arent important to teams success. But your saying Center is but all the experts are blind for not drafting them. Bellicheck has no idea whats hes doing... Right?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Its not a fallacy though. Damn kicker is important. I hope the Browns grab one with the first pick. You keep screaming this fallacy thing but its not a fallacy. Teams dont draft cheer leaders in round one cause they arent important to teams success. But your saying Center is but all the experts are blind for not drafting them. Bellicheck has no idea whats hes doing... Right?

Now you're doing a strawman.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Now you're doing a strawman.

Whats interesting is i clicked on your link and it said you shouldnt take one experts word if you have as much knowledge as them you can disagree. So essentially what your saying is owners pay scouts MILLIONS. They are also 32 expert GMs and 32 expert coaches but you have as much knowledge as all these people and you are actually the authority... Not them. Gotcha.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Whats interesting is i clicked on your link and it said you shouldnt take one experts word if you have as much knowledge as them you can disagree. So essentially what your saying is owners pay scouts MILLIONS. They are also 32 expert GMs and 32 expert coaches but you have as much knowledge as all these people and you are actually the authority... Not them. Gotcha.

However it is, entirely possible that the opinion of a person or institution of authority is wrong; therefore the authority that such a person or institution holds does not have any intrinsic bearing upon whether their claims are true or not.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Exactly... Bellicheck is wrong and you are right.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Exactly... Bellicheck is wrong and you are right.

Strawman. Just stop, man.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Strawman. Just stop, man.

Let me know when all these misguided GMs finally figure out how wrong theyve been over the last 50 years and start drafting Centers with top 5 picks. When that happens ill admit me and Bellicheck were wrong. But until then...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Let me know when all these misguided GMs finally figure out how wrong theyve been over the last 50 years and start drafting Centers with top 5 picks. When that happens ill admit me and Bellicheck were wrong. But until then...

 

[Stomp]

Yes, im using the idea that GMs know football better than me. Bellicheck knows football better than me and hes NEVER drafted a Center in the first 3 rounds.

They had an former all pro center for most of his time coaching the Pats. He has spent over half of his first round picks on offensive and defensive lineman. He has drafted DT more than any other position in the first 2 rounds (4-1st,2-2nd) maybe you should move that to the top of your rankings

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

They had an former all pro center for most of his time coaching the Pats. He has spent over half of his first round picks on offensive and defensive lineman. He has drafted DT more than any other position in the first 2 rounds (4-1st,2-2nd) maybe you should move that to the top of your rankings

Yep, but not one Center.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

They had an former all pro center for most of his time coaching the Pats. He has spent over half of his first round picks on offensive and defensive lineman. He has drafted DT more than any other position in the first 2 rounds (4-1st,2-2nd) maybe you should move that to the top of your rankings

Proves my point exactly. Even all pro Centers know they aren't 1st round worthy.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Proves my point exactly. Even all pro Centers know they aren't 1st round worthy.

Yet we see OG's go in the 1st round pretty routinely. We even have had a couple go in the top 10...

 

[Stomp]

Yep, but not one Center.

Yup teams don't generally draft players at positions they're already set at

 

[SteelersPride]

wait are we talking about value to a teams? or where they go in the draft ? brady was a 6th rounder. def not valuable, and all gm and coaches knew it