Series Thread: Rangers Angelic visit to La La land 7/18-7/20

[saddles]

Yohander Mendez with a good outing for Frisco tonight. 6 innings while giving up 2 ER on 3 hits, no walks and 7 strikeouts.

 

[Nightcrawler]

If it wasn't for the Oakland A's, our lead would be completely gone by now. This team needs a wake up call. They look lost out there. You could say that the Twins were a hot team, the Angels are a hot team, and the Cubs are just good, but you gotta beat someone good sooner or later.

 

[scotsman1948]

If it wasn't for the Oakland A's, our lead would be completely gone by now. This team needs a wake up call. They look lost out there. You could say that the Twins were a hot team, the Angels are a hot team, and the Cubs are just good, but you gotta beat someone good sooner or later.

with the present pitching staff we are in major trouble

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

with the present pitching staff we are in major trouble

Current offensive struggles are not helping

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Not saying much for now but we cannot beat last place teams lately. Our offense for the most part are scoring enough runs but our pitching is lousy.

 

[Hambombs]

I feel like everytime we get a division lead we will always find a way to blow it in some way

 

[romeo212000]

I feel like everytime we get a division lead we will always find a way to blow it in some way

We did that one other time. 2013. Stop being melodramatic.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

We did that one other time. 2013. Stop being melodramatic.

We did it in 2012 as well. That one hurt a lot more. In 2013 we lost a small lead in late August I believe and then fought back to tie the Rays for a one game elimination before the one game elimination WC.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

We did that one other time. 2013. Stop being melodramatic.

However, you are right. This is baseball and we should enjoy watching each game. We all have jobs and the Rangers players, coaching staff and front office have their jobs to do to. We cannot will them to win nor negotiate trades for them. We are mere fans and spectators. Let's enjoy the season and see what surprises they have in store for us. They know how to win, last year proved that. We were 8 games behind Houston on the August 1st 2015. Then came back to win the division. We got Hamels, Dyson and others when we were that far down in the standings as well. So yeah, I see your point. Too much drama.

 

[romeo212000]

We did it in 2012 as well. That one hurt a lot more. In 2013 we lost a small lead in late August I believe and then fought back to tie the Rays for a one game elimination before the one game elimination WC.

I forgot about 2012.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

I forgot about 2012.

Forget about it. You can just blame Wash and feel better about it!

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Worse than remembering the 2012 and 2013 seasons is watching all the talent we gave up for Garza and Dumpster. Probably why JD spent for a real pitcher last year and will probably have to this year. He will not get a rental unless it benefits us in some way. I won't mind being shutout by Eickman in a regular season game if Hamels gets us 5 playoff wins. That's an investment with near term interest.

I guess hindsight is 20/20. If we swallowed our pride in 2012 and 2013 and went with what we had, kept the talent, perhaps we would have been powerhouses today. Most of the soon to return to the WS teams (Giants, Boston, ST Louis) usually have an off year or two to rebuild either by trade or within their farm system. JD has made the commitment to be competitive each year. I guess this is what gets you where we are now.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

We did it in 2012 as well. That one hurt a lot more.

5 game lead with 9 games to play.... yeah, that one stung like a motherfucker.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

More:

This day, the 19th of June 2015 the Rangers were in third place with a record of 43-48 7.5 games out of first place.

We lost to Houston 10-0 and were in quite a funk with winning 2 of our last 10 games.

Difference? We had a big lead going into our usual July funk this year.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

5 game lead with 9 games to play.... yeah, that one stung like a motherfucker.

Yes that sucked.

 

[Bmurph]

Rangers Receiving Heavy Interest In Jurickson Profar

By Jeff Todd | July 19, 2016 at 9:53am UTC

The Rangers are receiving a “ton of calls” expressing interest in infielder Jurickson Profar, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. Texas appears to be weighing whether it truly wants to part with the 23-year-old, but Sullivan hints that it’s at least a possibility in the right scenario.

Among the suitors, the Rays appear to stand out with interest. Tampa Bay has several potential starting pitching trade pieces that could be a fit, though Sullivan suggests that the Rangers may not value pitchers like Jake Odorizzi, Matt Moore, and Drew Smyly highly enough to give up Profar.

Rotation help continues to stand out as the biggest need for Texas, though as Sullivan notes it’s also possible to imagine Profar being packaged in a deal for a catcher. That might be Jonathan Lucroy, he says, or perhaps an alternative backstop who matches Profar in terms of control and upside — though it isn’t easy to come up with any clear examples of such a player who might be available.

The real question underlying the decision for the Rangers, perhaps, is how to value Profar — both in general and with regard to roster fit. He only has three more years of control left, all via arbitration, because his prior injuries occurred when he was on the major league roster. And the team does have big-dollar shortstop Elvis Andrusaround for the foreseeable future.

Still, it’s possible that Texas could view Profar as worthy of handling regular shortstop duties as soon as 2016, per the report. In that case, Andrus would likely move into the sort of utility role that Profar currently fills.

The Rangers have several other plausible trade pieces that it could utilize instead of Profar. Chief among them, perhaps, is slugger Joey Gallo. Like Profar, he seems ready to contribute at the major league level, but has veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. And similarly, he could be viewed as somewhat expendable — with Adrian Beltre now locked up at third base for another two years — or as an important future piece, given that he could step in at first base with Mitch Moreland departing.

What seems most clear from the report is that Texas won’t be moving Profar for anything short of a high-quality asset. That’s plenty understandable given his top-flight pedigree and .318/.366/.455 batting line in 142 plate appearances this year. The long-term health of his shoulder remains a concern, and the relatively short timeline of control limits his upside, but the Rangers surely have little reason to deal him if they aren’t able to get an impact player in return.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Tampa Bay has several potential starting pitching trade pieces that could be a fit, though Sullivan suggests that the Rangers may not value pitchers like Jake Odorizzi, Matt Moore, and Drew Smyly highly enough to give up Profar.

Yeah I agree. If they are calling us, then make them pay. Make the market price for Profar a TORP. How so you ask? Just dangle that idea in front of LA Dodgers and they will cause immediately cause that inflationary rise.

 

[DT LUNA]

Rangers Receiving Heavy Interest In Jurickson Profar

By Jeff Todd | July 19, 2016 at 9:53am UTC

The Rangers are receiving a “ton of calls” expressing interest in infielder Jurickson Profar, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. Texas appears to be weighing whether it truly wants to part with the 23-year-old, but Sullivan hints that it’s at least a possibility in the right scenario.

Among the suitors, the Rays appear to stand out with interest. Tampa Bay has several potential starting pitching trade pieces that could be a fit, though Sullivan suggests that the Rangers may not value pitchers like Jake Odorizzi, Matt Moore, and Drew Smyly highly enough to give up Profar.

Rotation help continues to stand out as the biggest need for Texas, though as Sullivan notes it’s also possible to imagine Profar being packaged in a deal for a catcher. That might be Jonathan Lucroy, he says, or perhaps an alternative backstop who matches Profar in terms of control and upside — though it isn’t easy to come up with any clear examples of such a player who might be available.

The real question underlying the decision for the Rangers, perhaps, is how to value Profar — both in general and with regard to roster fit. He only has three more years of control left, all via arbitration, because his prior injuries occurred when he was on the major league roster. And the team does have big-dollar shortstop Elvis Andrusaround for the foreseeable future.

Still, it’s possible that Texas could view Profar as worthy of handling regular shortstop duties as soon as 2016, per the report. In that case, Andrus would likely move into the sort of utility role that Profar currently fills.

The Rangers have several other plausible trade pieces that it could utilize instead of Profar. Chief among them, perhaps, is slugger Joey Gallo. Like Profar, he seems ready to contribute at the major league level, but has veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. And similarly, he could be viewed as somewhat expendable — with Adrian Beltre now locked up at third base for another two years — or as an important future piece, given that he could step in at first base with Mitch Moreland departing.

What seems most clear from the report is that Texas won’t be moving Profar for anything short of a high-quality asset. That’s plenty understandable given his top-flight pedigree and .318/.366/.455 batting line in 142 plate appearances this year. The long-term health of his shoulder remains a concern, and the relatively short timeline of control limits his upside, but the Rangers surely have little reason to deal him if they aren’t able to get an impact player in return.

My opinion is to keep Profar and send Odor in a package that would get us a sp of value, Hopefully a Moore or Santann. May be wishful thinking but at some point the decision must be made to keep Profar or cut the cord.

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]