Random NFL talk

[Xeliou66]

Apparently Brashard Smith beat Kristian Fulton by 3 steps on a go route in practice. Not sure if that makes me excited or really concerned. I'm really lukewarm on the Fulton signing.

Yeah I wonder how much Fulton will play, he’s okay but not a great corner by any means, he provides some depth for you guys at corner but I’m kind of doubting he makes much of an impact - aside from McDuffie who’s clearly the Chiefs top corner they have Joshua Williams, Jaylen Watson and the rookie they drafted in the 3rd round Nohl Williams, so I’m not sure how much playing time Fulton will get or what impact he’ll make, I’m not sure he’s better than Williams/Watson. You follow the Chiefs closer than I do though.

 

[Clayton]

Yeah I wonder how much Fulton will play, he’s okay but not a great corner by any means, he provides some depth for you guys at corner but I’m kind of doubting he makes much of an impact - aside from McDuffie who’s clearly the Chiefs top corner they have Joshua Williams, Jaylen Watson and the rookie they drafted in the 3rd round Nohl Williams, so I’m not sure how much playing time Fulton will get or what impact he’ll make, I’m not sure he’s better than Williams/Watson. You follow the Chiefs closer than I do though.

I think McDuffie is the clear #1 like you say. Entering a contract year which I think could be anywhere from $24mil a year to $32 mil a year depending on how he plays. PFF has his coverage grade at 9th overall but adding in his value as a blitzer and it goes way to to 3rd overall last year. Do you pay a CB top money if he isn't a top coverage corner? Maybe thats the gamble is that the Chiefs run McDuffie as more of a conventional shutdown guy and run everyone else swiss army knife.

The Chiefs secondary is almost all hybrid players right now. Chamarri Conner listed as Nickelback but he has been a good safety. Bryan Cook still the FS but he really has more of a SS profile. Nazeeh Johnson might be the deep cover guy if its not McDuffie.

Fulton I think is assumed to be the #2 CB. Coming out of LSU, he had 1st round film and technique but short arms which almost always means rd2 which he fell. Some projected him as a Nickelback coming out. Maybe he takes over there, Conner moves to his natural position. Hard to say. The idea that the Chiefs have a hole in their deep coverage seems somewhat plausible. Its not as obvious of a variable as the Chiefs oline but its something to watch. Nohl Williams looks like a physical outside guy with speed limitations. He won't have any impact on Fulton playing.

 

[Xeliou66]

I think McDuffie is the clear #1 like you say. Entering a contract year which I think could be anywhere from $24mil a year to $32 mil a year depending on how he plays. PFF has his coverage grade at 9th overall but adding in his value as a blitzer and it goes way to to 3rd overall last year. Do you pay a CB top money if he isn't a top coverage corner? Maybe thats the gamble is that the Chiefs run McDuffie as more of a conventional shutdown guy and run everyone else swiss army knife.

The Chiefs secondary is almost all hybrid players right now. Chamarri Conner listed as Nickelback but he has been a good safety. Bryan Cook still the FS but he really has more of a SS profile. Nazeeh Johnson might be the deep cover guy if its not McDuffie.

Fulton I think is assumed to be the #2 CB. Coming out of LSU, he had 1st round film and technique but short arms which almost always means rd2 which he fell. Some projected him as a Nickelback coming out. Maybe he takes over there, Conner moves to his natural position. Hard to say. The idea that the Chiefs have a hole in their deep coverage seems somewhat plausible. Its not as obvious of a variable as the Chiefs oline but its something to watch. Nohl Williams looks like a physical outside guy with speed limitations. He won't have any impact on Fulton playing.

It will be interesting to watch how the Chiefs whole team gels together this year. They have a lot of talented players but some question marks - obviously Mahomes is a great QB, I think he might put up bigger numbers again this year after not quite reaching the 4000 yard mark last season, with a more stable receiving unit - Rice and Brown healthy, Worthy in year 2, but at the same time Kelce is aging and his productivity has decreased the past 2 seasons. The rushing game will need to be more effective for them, their RBs averaged under 4 yards per carry last season, and it was a total non factor in the Super Bowl loss. The O-Line was addressed in the offseason and should be better but it will be interesting how they gel. On D they are good, but they do need some more edge rush production from guys other than Karlaftis, and on the D-Line Chris Jones is aging and might not be as productive.

I think the Chiefs are still the favorites in the West and a Super Bowl contender, but the West is a tough division, and it will be interesting to see how the Chiefs look - last year they didn’t look nearly as dominant as their 15-2 record suggested.

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[jarntt]