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I'll take them in the order of Pocic, Elflein, and Orlosky for the Rams. Elflein is smallish so maybe he can grow abit for the pros.
 

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Rams may have a chance at Bengals lineman Kevin Zeitler in free agency

We originally wrote that the Rams should target Cincinnati offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth, but a more realistic option is Kevin Zeitler.

The latest rumor today is that the Bengals are more interested in returning Whitworth, with Zeitler likely to test the free-agent market.

Here’s the latest from Bengals reporter Paul Dehner, Jr. (via Cinncinati.com):

“I continue to feel confident Kevin Zeitler will be playing elsewhere in 2017 … We’ll see as free agency ramps up next month, but we put a 45 percent chance on his return in our free agent piece when the season ended and I’d drop it to 30 today.”

In the rankings from RotoWorld, Zeitler is the top-rated free agent interior offensive lineman.

Zeitler had an 87.1 Pro Football Focus grade last season, which put him in the top ten of all NFL players at his position. He was top-five in pass black.

Meanwhile, no Rams guards besides Rodger Saffold received a PFF grade better than 67.6 (Cody Wichmann) — which is subpar by all standards.

Saffold, 28, is a leader for the Rams and does a serviceable job protecting the left side. Zeitler, 26, would be a perfect complement for the right side of the offensive line.

The draft class for guards is relatively weak this season. If the Rams do not bring back expensive options like Trumaine Johnson and Kenny Britt in free agency, they will have lots of money to spend in the offseason.

According to Spotrac, his market value is $11.6 million per season over the next five years. While that’s a steep price, if it increases productivity from Jared Goff and Todd Gurley, it could be worth the money.
 

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According to a number of "rumor" articles, expect to see the Rams get rid of any vestige of Fisher's tenure. There is pretty good evidence to indicate that McVay and Snisher are going to let Britt and Trumaine Johnson walk although the latter may reverse this trend with some lobbying.

One article at Walter Football went so far as to state that Jared Goff may be gone as well as he is the face of the Fisher 7-9 BS. This was interesting because the logical conclusion is that Kirk Cousins may be in the mix to come to LA. Nothing mentioned about Mannion.

Also, expect to see Desean Jackson in a Rams uniform. He was born and raised in LA and loves to play for McVay, Olson, and Lafleur and McVay wants him to come to LA.

I have seen mentioned that GRob and other undiscipline players like him could be gone and there could be draft day packages to obtain draft picks.

This all sounds good to me. I hope McVay pulls the trigger on a Goff deal or any a number of these players and we start fresh.

I don't buy that... McVay came here knowing Goff would be his QB and was hired to groom this kid into a star... Goff isn't a "Fisher guy" as evidenced by the article stating he wanted to work on off days... Fisher barely worked on working days, he sure wouldn't encourage people to work on off days(god forbid!!! lol)...
 

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I agree BattleLyon. The Rams can also trade Quinn and Austin and let Quick go. Trade these guys where possible and save as much cap room as possible. I'd push to keep Trumaine Johnson and T.J MacDonald though but we shall see what Phillips thinks. Trade Quinn to Cleveland for a second and a fourth.

Get rid of these Fisher nutbags and start fresh I say. Also in that article you posted, T.J. Lang was mentioned as available from the Packers. That would be a decent pick-up.
 
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Should the Rams franchise CB Trumaine Johnson again?

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Rams went six years without utilizing the franchise tag, until they designated it for cornerback Trumaine Johnson last offseason.

Will they use it a second year in a row?

Wednesday marks the first day for teams to designate franchise or transition tags on players, with the window closing at 4 p.m. ET on March 1. Johnson played under the non-exclusive franchise tag last season and made $13.952 million. Franchising him again would increase his salary by 20 percent, to about $16.75 million. The Rams are currently projected to have about $40 million in cap space, so they certainly have the financial means.

But is Johnson worth it?

Five players -- defensive end John Abraham, kicker Phil Dawson, and linebackers Karlos Dansby, Terrell Suggs and Anthony Spencer -- have been franchised in back-to-back seasons since 2005. The last cornerback to get that treatment was Charles Woodson with the Raiders, from 2004 to '05.

The Rams chose to franchise Johnson instead of Janoris Jenkins around this time last year, prompting Jenkins to sign a five-year, $62.5 million contract with the Giants. That prompted Johnson to step in as the No. 1 corner. But his interceptions went from seven in 2015 to one, a career low, in 2016. Below is a look at the production Johnson allowed as the primary coverage defender and where those numbers ranked among the 81 cornerbacks who were on the field for at least 50 percent of defensive snaps, with stats courtesy of Pro Football Focus ...

  • 520 receiving yards (48th)

  • four touchdowns (tied for 24th)

  • 60.7 completion percentage (42nd)

  • 1 catch for every 11 snaps (37th)

  • 0.93 yards per coverage snap (14th)

  • 89.4 QB rating (34th)
In a vacuum, it's easy to see that Johnson isn't worth a second franchise tag; not when you consider that only one cornerback, Darrelle Revis, made more than $16 million on a base salary last year.

Here's the problem: The Rams currently don't have much depth beyond Johnson.

Their other outside corner is E.J. Gaines, who missed the entirety of 2015 with a serious foot injury and was limited to 10 starts with a few smaller ailments in 2016. Then there's Lamarcus Joyner, who is better as a slot corner. And Blake Countess, a former sixth-round pick. And Troy Hill and Mike Jordan, two undrafted free agents. Gaines, Joyner, Countess and Hill are all 5-foot-10 or shorter. Johnson -- listed at 6-foot-2, 208 pounds -- isn't only the most talented; he is the only one with real size and length.

With the Broncos, Wade Phillips was able to pressure the quarterback with an assortment of different linebackers because he had outstanding cover corners in Aqib Talib and Chris Harris. Johnson would be crucial to the 3-4 scheme Phillips will implement in L.A., and the Rams would love to find a way to keep him.

But Johnson is expected to be among the best cornerbacks available in free agency and will command significant dollars, regardless of the franchise tag. The Rams can get a couple of solid-yet-lesser corners with the money they would allocate for Johnson. They could also make what would be a surprising move and instead use the franchise tag on strong safety T.J. McDonald, which, based on a projected salary cap of $168 million, would cost $11,691,943.

The important thing is this: The Rams lost half of their starting secondary to free agency last offseason, and they can't let that happen again.
 

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BTW, Patrick Peterson had almost identical completion percentage and qb rating against last year. Stats aren't going to make this decision, his fit within Wade Phillips' system will.
 

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Top 50 NFL free agents of 2017 | PFF

1. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Pittsburgh Steelers
There is little to no chance that the Pittsburgh Steelers allow one of the league’s best running backs to hit the open market. Le’Veon Bell is a complete weapon for Pittsburgh, and one that helps them immeasurably as both a runner and receiver. He has had some issues with suspensions that make long-term contract negotiations interesting, but he is currently the best player scheduled to hit free agency.

2. Kirk Cousins, QB, Washington Redskins
Kirk Cousins is not the second-best player scheduled to hit free agency, but he is by far the best quarterback, and in today’s NFL, that makes you an extremely valuable prize, vaulting him up the list. Cousins backed up his 2015 season and has earned himself a long-term deal—and it should be Washington that gives it to him. When kept clean in the pocket this past season, Cousins’ passer rating was 107.2, and he completed 72.3 percent of his passes.

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3. Kawann Short, DI, Carolina Panthers
For the first three weeks of the season, Kawann Short was missing in action. From then on, however, we saw the player that excelled in the 2015 season, and Short became a wrecking ball in the heart of the Carolina defense for much of the remainder of the year. He ended the season with 49 total QB pressures and 38 defensive stops, earning impressive grades against both the run and pass.

4. Melvin Ingram, EDGE, Los Angeles Chargers
Melvin Ingram has developed into the first-round pass-rushing force the Chargers thought he could become, just in time for him to turn the performance into a big-money contract from somebody—whether that’s with the Chargers or on the open market. Ingram finished the year ranked as the sixth-best edge defender in terms of PFF overall grade (88.1)—just behind teammate Joey Bosa, in fifth—recording 72 total QB pressures over the season. He also showed the ability to play in coverage more than most edge rushers, batting away two passes and allowing just 6.8 yards per reception.

5. Calais Campbell, DI, Arizona Cardinals
The only thing keeping Campbell from being higher on this list is age, as he will enter the 2017 season north of 30 years old for the second time in his career. Campbell, though, is coming off the best season of his NFL tenure, recording 56 total QB pressures and 34 defensive stops in 2016. He maintained his strong run defense and improved as a pass-rusher. The way Arizona has deployed him, Campbell can play in any scheme, and has effectively lined up at 3-technique (the traditional pass-rushing alignment of a four-man D-line defensive tackle) more often than any other spot for the Cardinals, despite their base defensive front.

6. Chandler Jones, EDGE, Arizona Cardinals
The Cardinals have another impactful defensive player scheduled to hit free agency, potentially putting the team in a bind in terms of trying to retain their own players. Jones was picked up from the Patriots in the offseason, as New England was looking to move on from a player that had some strange off-the-field behavior incidents. That said, Jones had a fine year in Arizona, boosted by some of the offensive lines he got to play in the NFC West. Jones racked up a dozen sacks and 66 total QB pressures this past season.

7. Jason Pierre-Paul, EDGE, New York Giants
Jason Pierre-Paul went down injured 32 snaps into his Week 13 matchup with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but despite that, still ended the season with more snaps on the edge than all but 18 other players. JPP played over 90 percent of possible snaps over the season, and posted 54 total QB pressures across 12 and a half games. He is still just 28 years old and could be an impact pass-rusher for somebody.

8. Eric Berry, S, Kansas City Chiefs
Eric Berry is one of the league’s most versatile safeties, and showed in 2016 that he has the ability to succeed as a deeper-lying free safety, as well as in the box and around the line of scrimmage. That’s a huge boost for his free-agent value, because free safeties are becoming increasingly hard to find in a league that isn’t struggling to find those that can play in the box and around the line. Berry has had arguably the best two years of his career since returning from battling cancer, and has done so in two distinct alignments for the Chiefs.

9. Kevin Zeitler, G, Cincinnati Bengals
The offensive lineman group in free agency is headed by Kevin Zeitler and T.J. Lang, who are both Pro-Bowl quality guards on the right side of 30. Zeitler is the more balanced of the two in terms of run blocking and pass protection, and is also two years younger, so he narrowly edges Lang as the best available lineman, but depending on the system you run, a team might easily view Lang as a better fit.

10. T.J. Lang, G, Green Bay Packers
Lang is two years older than Cincinnati’s Kevin Zeitler, but like seemingly all Green Bay offensive linemen, he is one of the best players in the league at pass blocking. This past season, Lang didn’t allow a single sack or hit on quarterback Aaron Rodgers, and surrendered just 10 QB hurries all season, despite Rodgers recording the second-highest average time to throw in the league. If you are a team in need of guard help, and the passing game is the foundation of your offense, Lang would be your ideal target.

11. Dont’a Hightower, LB, New England Patriots
Dont’a Hightower is an impact player, but has a very specific skill-set that the Patriots have been able to utilize extremely well. He has good grades in every area of the game PFF measures in three straight seasons, and has been used heavily by the Patriots as a pass-rusher on the blitz—typically up the middle to augment their relatively average pass rush up front. Over the past three seasons, Hightower has recorded 18 total sacks and has averaged 32 total QB pressures per season, as well as being a solid run defender. The less space he has to play in, the better, but Hightower can be an impact linebacker for most teams.

12. Stephon Gilmore, CB, Buffalo Bills
Gilmore is arguably the only available cornerback that a team could expect to thrive as a No. 1 corner, but his 2016 season calls into question how confident anybody can be in handing him that role, given how poor his play was at times. For the season, Gilmore notched five picks, but that masks much of the poor play, and the 15.6 yards per reception he was beaten for represents a career high. Any team handing him a big-money deal will want to be confident that 2016 was more anomaly than baseline.

13. Alshon Jeffery, WR, Chicago Bears
Alshon Jeffery is another player with the potential to be elite at his position, but between average play in 2016 and a series of injuries that have affected his availability over multiple years, his value and desirability to teams has taken a hit over recent seasons. Jeffery played in 12 games this past season, catching 56.5 percent of the passes thrown his way and dropping a career-high five balls.

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14. A.J. Bouye, CB, Houston Texans
A.J. Bouye was one of the breakout players of the 2016 season, likely earning himself a lot of money. The risk is that anybody handing him that contract is working from just one season of tape, but it was one consistent season—the expected regression never really came—and it does feature 17 games, thanks to Houston’s playoff campaign. Over the year, Bouye allowed just 50.5 percent of passes thrown his way to be caught for a passer rating of 58.5 from opposing QBs.

15. Nick Perry, EDGE, Green Bay Packers
Nick Perry is another former first-round edge defender that took some time to get going in the NFL, but has started to look worth the draft status lately. Perry posted career-highs in snaps, sacks, total QB pressures, defensive stops and more or less every other statistical category you choose to mention for the Packers this season. He is a player that might be better suited playing consistently with his hand in the dirt as a 4-3 defensive end. Either way, Perry has the position flexibility to make him an option to any scheme in the league.

16. Andrew Whitworth, T, Cincinnati Bengals
The only thing keeping Whitworth this low on the list is his age (35). Despite those advanced years, he remains one of the league’s best offensive tackles, surrendering 14 total QB pressures over the 2016 season. The Bengals have likely learned over the season that they can’t allow him to hit free agency, but if he does, he will have no shortage of suitors. As long as you accept that you’re not in it for the long haul given his age, Whitworth is one of the best potential short-term upgrades slated to hit the market.

17. Duron Harmon, S, New England Patriots
The Patriots have never given Duron Harmon more than 700 total snaps over a season, including the postseason. He has been effectively a nickel safety for the team, but has earned solid or good coverage grades in every season of his career, and is a player that has proven ability to play deep off the line of scrimmage and still influence play. Teams have no shortage of strong safety options, but a legitimate talent at free safety is a rare prize, and that could see Harmon’s value boosted significantly in a seller’s market.

18. Brandon Williams, DI, Baltimore Ravens
Contract years typically see the best performance possible from a player looking to make as much money as they can, but Brandon Williams is scheduled to hit free agency coming off the worst year of his career. He was still solid against the run this past season, but the two previous years he had shown ability comparable to that of Giants defensive tackle Damon Harrison—the game’s best run defender. Like Harrison, Williams offers little as a pass-rusher, but Harrison showed last offseason that the league is still willing to pay for an elite run defender. Williams will have to hope that 2016 didn’t call his status in that category into question.
 

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19. Tony Jefferson, S, Arizona Cardinals
A former undrafted free agent, Tony Jefferson has developed into an excellent strong safety and box defender for the Cardinals, and this past season, he earned a PFF run-defense grade 98.0. Jefferson recorded 35 defensive stops, third among all safeties, and missed only five tackles, less than half the figure of either of the players to better him in defensive stops. Jefferson has been solid in coverage close to the line of scrimmage, and would be a solid upgrade for teams looking for an upgrade at the position.

20. Terrelle Pryor, WR, Cleveland Browns
Terrelle Pryor didn’t quite manage to make Charles Woodson look like a genius with an 1,800-yard season—as difficult as that may be to believe—but he did top 1,000 receiving yards and notch 77 catches with the Browns while cycling through a laundry list of quarterbacks, most of whom did no favors at all for their receivers. This was Pryor’s first real season as a wideout, and his potential remains extremely high given his athletic talent. He may never develop into the next Julio Jones, but he has already shown the ability to be a difference maker for any team as a starting option.

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21. Larry Warford, G, Detroit Lions
Larry Warford has never really repeated the highs of his rookie season, but he remains a solid starting guard at just 26 years old. This past season, Warford surrendered three sacks and 28 total QB pressures, but teams will be intrigued by the prospect of rediscovering the 2013 PFF Rookie of the Year, who didn’t allow a single sack and earned the best run-blocking grade of his career.

22. Chris Baker, DI, Washington Redskins
There are few more anonymous quality players than Washington’s Chris Baker, who for the past two seasons has posted impressive grades against both the run and pass as he has seen his role on defense increase into a starting job. He has averaged 42.5 total pressures over the past two seasons playing defensive end in Washington’s scheme, and has been a tough run defender in each year. Maybe a free-agent contract will give him the recognition his play deserves.

23. Ronald Leary, G, Dallas Cowboys
It’s easy to think of Ronald Leary as a backup lineman, but he was a starting guard who lost his job because Dallas lucked into La’el Collins in freakish circumstances at draft time. With Collins injured this season, Leary stepped back into the starting spot at left guard in Dallas and actually upgraded the unit. Leary didn’t allow a sack all season, but it was his run blocking that was the biggest difference, and he was not an insignificant part of Ezekiel Elliott’s league-leading season running the football.

24. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Los Angeles Rams
Trumaine Johnson has the size (6-foot-2, 204 pounds) that the NFL covets at the cornerback position, but he just hasn’t been able to consistently put his best play on the field, and should be considered a solid No. 2 corner more than a No. 1 at this point. Over the past two seasons, Johnson has surrendered an average of 591 receiving yards and 2.5 touchdowns while allowing receivers to catch over 60 percent of passes thrown into his coverage.

25. Dontari Poe, DI, Kansas City Chiefs
Dontari Poe has rare ability for a nose tackle, and can do things at 346 pounds that players 20 pounds lighter can’t from a movement standpoint. His 2013 season represents his potential. That year, he was an excellent run defender and brought enough as a pass-rusher in collapsing the pocket up the middle; what’s more, did it while playing a crazy 1,063 snaps for a nose tackle. The issue is, though, that Poe hasn’t hit those heights since. He is just 27 years old, however, and teams will want to chase the potential he has at least proven capable of in the past.

26. Logan Ryan, CB, New England Patriots
At this point on the list, the search for a No. 1 corner is over, but teams can still find capable starters, and Logan Ryan is one of those. He can be exposed at times, especially against smaller, quicker receivers, but he is a solid and reliable player and is more active in the run game than many players at the position. Ryan could be a very nice fit in the correct scheme, but isn’t right for every team.

27. Jabaal Sheard, EDGE, New England Patriots
A year ago, Sheard was coming off the best season of his career for the Patriots, and though they dialed back his playing time a little this year, he still played just seven fewer snaps over the entire season than he did in 2015 (albeit with an extra game in the Super Bowl giving him an extra 94 possible). Sheard is a capable player against the run and pass, and can play across different schemes and roles. He may never be an All-Pro, but he can be a valuable part of a team’s defensive front.

28. Martellus Bennett, TE, New England Patriots
We saw early in the season the kind of potential that Martellus Bennett has when he was ably filling in for Rob Gronkowski, and he deserves significant credit for gutting it out over the season and playing through injuries for the Patriots. That said, it did clearly affect his play. Bennett is one of the league’s most talented TEs, capable of excellent work as a receiver and blocker, but has rarely put it all together for extended stretches of play, and will be 30 by the time the new season rolls around.

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29. DeSean Jackson, WR, Washington Redskins
DeSean Jackson is still one of the league’s most dangerous deep threats, capable of making a big play at any time. In 2016, only T.Y. Hilton had more receptions on deep passes (20+ air yards) than Jackson’s 16, and he scored three times, netting 579 yards (the most in the league) on deep targets alone. He has never been the most complete receiver in the game, but deep threats are a valuable part of NFL offenses, and Jackson is still among the best available.

30. Morris Claiborne, CB, Dallas Cowboys
Morris Claiborne is an interesting player for teams to evaluate. He was the No. 6 overall pick in the 2012 draft, then had four years of below-average play before completely turning things around in 2016—only to go down injured for the second half of the season. He has half a season that suggests he can be a legit high-end starter, but that’s it. The improvement in his play for 2016 was incredible, but there is a lot of bad tape before it, and a small sample size within that improvement.

31. Prince Amukamara, CB, Jacksonville Jaguars
Prince Amukamara likely won’t ever justify his first-round draft status, but he isn’t a bad player in the right scheme if a team doesn’t ask more from him than he is capable of. Amukamara doesn’t have great ball skills, and will be beaten on occasions, but teams in need of a third cornerback to play the outside could do a lot worse.

32. Pierre Garçon, WR, Washington Redskins
Pierre Garçon’s issue is advancing age, because on play alone, he would be far higher. He ended 2016 with a PFF grade of 85.8, good enough for eighth among all wideouts, and he has a complete skill-set, able to beat people with speed, power and gain yards after the catch. He dropped only one pass in 2016 from 110 targets, and even had a solid blocking grade. He won’t be a long-term answer for anybody, but may be among the better immediate-impact signings.

33. Kenny Britt, WR, Los Angeles Rams
Kenny Britt gained over 1,000 receiving yards with Case Keenum and Jared Goff throwing him the football in 2016. That alone is worth some pretty serious respect. Britt caught 62.4 percent of the passes thrown his way (higher than the completion percentage from either QB overall on the year) and was excellent at making contested catches. 2016 was the first season in his career that Britt has really been heavily targeted, and he rose to meet the increased workload.

34. Barry Church, S, Dallas Cowboys
Barry Church has been a solid player for the Cowboys, especially against the run, but 2016 marked a dramatic uptick in his performance in coverage. Some of that was cutting down on the number of missed tackles—halving his total from 2015 to 2016, in fact—but he also saw more action deeper in coverage, which played more to his strengths.
 

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35. J.C. Tretter, C, Green Bay Packers
There isn’t a whole lot of tape on J.C. Tretter (his career is 1,001 snaps old, which amounts to effectively one full year of starting), but what is out there is pretty good. His grade over that thousand snaps would put him among the top 15 players in the league at his position, and in 2016, he ranked ninth overall with a grade of 84.1. He hasn’t really shown limitless upside, but his floor would appear to be a capable, solid starting center, which makes him a valuable commodity.

36. Ricky Wagner, T, Baltimore Ravens
Few players have covered more of the grading spectrum than Ricky Wagner over the past three seasons, who has bounced from grades of 84.7 to 45.8, and back up to 84.5 again in consecutive years. At his best, Wagner has been a good pass protector and passable as a run blocker, which is a serviceable combination for most NFL teams. That said, teams will want to understand what happened in Wagner’s 2015 season before committing significant money.

37. John Cyprien, S, Jacksonville Jaguars
John Cyprien earned the highest PFF run-defense grade we have ever given a safety, ending the 2016 season with a mark of 98.8 as he found his home closer to the line of scrimmage within the Jacksonville defensive scheme. His coverage was still far from ideal, but his run defense was legitimately impactful, and only Giants S Landon Collins had more defensive stops at the position. Cyprien’s issue is that he has just one season of improved play, and there are many other capable safeties available to fill the role.

38. John Simon, EDGE, Houston Texans
Before injury, John Simon was chipping in well as a pass-rusher in the Houston defense that was able to generate pressure from a lot of different players. His run defense has been good in each of the past three seasons, but 2016 saw him far more efficient in his pass rush, with 26 total QB pressures and two batted passes in his 205 pass-rushing snaps. This was the highest percentage of the team’s defensive snaps that Simon has seen in his career, and his best performance individually, so he will likely be pushing for a starting spot in free agency.

39. Mario Addison, EDGE, Carolina Panthers
Mario Addison improved dramatically in 2016 and had the best single season of his career without dramatically increasing his playing time from the previous two seasons. He ended 2016 with just 433 snaps on defense, which is actually lower than the two previous years, albeit a higher percentage of the team’s possible snaps. That said, he recorded career highs in sacks (10), total pressures (51) and defensive stops (18). Addison could just be hitting his prime and has never been afforded a starting role, making him a very intriguing option for teams.

40. James Harrison, EDGE, Pittsburgh Steelers
Harrison likely plays in Pittsburgh next season or nowhere, but maybe the right team could tempt him into a short-term deal somewhere to chase a ring. The Steelers have been trying to replace Harrison for years, yet he remains easily their best pass-rusher, and effectively forced them to put him back in the starting lineup this past season. He was the Steelers’ best player in the postseason on defense, and can still affect games, even at a ludicrous 39 years of age.

41. D.J. Swearinger, S, Arizona Cardinals
Another in a line of one-season wonders at safety, D.J. Swearinger completely turned around his career in Arizona this season after previously being at the heart of seemingly every coverage bust in the Houston defense. Swearinger looked like a far more confident and instinctive player in Arizona, but the fact that it’s just one year of play has to make teams wary.

42. Bradley McDougald, S, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Bradley McDougald has been an inconsistent player for the Bucs, but the high points of his performance are very good, and if a team can iron out the bad, he could be a very useful player. McDougald is extremely active, having made over 75 solo tackles in each of the past two seasons; he also has 13 pass breakups over his three-year career.

43. Eddie Lacy, RB, Green Bay Packers
Back in 2014, Eddie Lacy was the third-highest-graded RB in the league, with an overall grade 86.0 (that would have ranked second in the 2016 season), but much-publicized weight issues and injuries have held him back and thrown his career into question. If a team can get his weight on point, there are few backs that can have the kind of overall impact he can have on an offense, but that has become a bet with pretty long odds over the past two seasons.

44. DeMarcus Ware, EDGE, Denver Broncos
Injuries are a major factor, but when he is on the field, DeMarcus Ware can still bring the heat off the edge. Even in 2016, Ware recorded five sacks and 26 total QB pressures from just 213 pass-rushing snaps. He probably makes the most sense as a situational pass-rusher for a team now, but he can still be among the better players in the game within that role.

45. Charles Johnson, EDGE, Carolina Panthers
Though he hasn’t come close to replicating his best seasons, Charles Johnson has actually played reasonably the past two years. His pass-rush threat has diminished, but his run defense has been better than it has ever been, and he still brings more pressure than his sack totals would suggest, averaging 37.5 total QB pressures over the last two seasons, despite playing only 542 snaps each year. Given the drop in his reputation, he might prove to be a value pickup for some team.

46. Johnathan Hankins, DI, New York Giants
Johnathan Hankins put on tape the anti-contract year in 2016. While most players have the best year of their career with a big payday on the line, Hankins had the worst year of his career. With Damon Harrison coming on board, Hankins was shifted along the defensive line to accommodate him, and wasn’t nearly as successful playing as more of a three-technique, penetrating style of defensive tackle than he was over the nose in previous years. He has never been much of a pass-rusher, but could be a solid run defender for a team that puts him back in his old position.

47. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Cincinnati Bengals
Dre Kirkpatrick has improved dramatically, but has still only really been passable as a starting corner for the Bengals. What makes him interesting, though, is that Cincinnati’s scheme doesn’t really play to his strengths, and he may prove to be a far more effective cover corner in a scheme that operates more pure man coverage. This past season, he allowed just 10.0 yards per reception and a passer rating of 68.9 when targeted. Both were the best marks of his career.

48. Stefan Wisniewski, C/G, Philadelphia Eagles
Sometimes the league decides certain offensive lineman are backups or sixth-men going forward when they have never really done anything to suggest they aren’t better than that, and I think that could be the case with Wisniewski. Over his career, at either guard or center, he has never been significantly below-average for a season, and could likely upgrade multiple spots for several teams across the league.

49. Captain Munnerlyn, CB, Minnesota Vikings
Cornerbacks that are termed “sub-package only” were once one of the last things a team needed to get in place, but in today’s NFL, those players are playing two-thirds of their team’s defensive snaps, so they need to be capable. Captain Munnerlyn has been solid at worst for some time, and far better than that at points over the past few seasons. His play tailed off over the 2016 season, but there is certainly something to work with.

50. Mike Glennon, QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Mike Glennon has been average over his 1,256 career snaps, but it’s how that average play has been accomplished that makes him at least intriguing to a QB-starved league. Glennon has tended to be either very good, or very bad in any given game, and then swung back in the other direction. Much of that is directly down to how much pressure he was under in the game, but he has at least shown enough good in his young career to tempt some teams desperately in search of an answer at the position.
 

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If I was running the FA program for the Rams, I'd being focusing in on some guys during the FA signing period that could help us immediately with veteran leadership and in two cases, a superbowl ring-winning mentality.

In no particular order of significance: Gs, Kevin Zeitler, T.J. Lang, and Larry Warford (all three are studs and consistent players that would help our O-line), WRs, Alshon Jeffrey, DeSean Jackson, and Pierre Garcon (the latter two McVay has worked with in Washington), LB/DE, Barkevious Mingo (the type of big and talented tweener Phillips likes), and FB, Kyle Juszczyk (a do-it-all Fullback that would really take the pressure off Gurley-big too).

All of these guys could really bolster the holes we have in our team and provide the intangibles we desperately need such as Mingo's newly acquired superbowl ring and winning ways mentality.
 

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In looking at our own FAs, I see several that just might return for a number of reasons.

These two may certainly be back.
91 Easley, Dominique DT 6-2 285 24 3 Florida
93 Westbrooks, Ethan DT 6-4 267 26 3 West Texas A&M

I suspect all of the following guys will be back especially the road grader Cam Thomas that will fit well in Phillips system. I don't see Phillips letting either McDonald or Johnson go either and Zuerlein who is starting to settle into a pretty consistent kicker has a very good chance of returning.

23 Cunningham, Benny RB 5-10 217 26 4 Middle Tennessee State
22 Johnson, Trumaine CB 6-2 208 27 5 Montana
25 McDonald, T.J. SS 6-2 217 26 4 USC
34 Reynolds, Chase RB 6-0 205 29 4 Montana
92 Thomas, Cam DE 6-4 335 30 7 North Carolina
4 Zuerlein, Greg K 6-0 196 29 5 Missouri Western State
 

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If I was running the FA program for the Rams, I'd being focusing in on some guys during the FA signing period that could help us immediately with veteran leadership and in two cases, a superbowl ring-winning mentality.

In no particular order of significance: Gs, Kevin Zeitler, T.J. Lang, and Larry Warford (all three are studs and consistent players that would help our O-line), WRs, Alshon Jeffrey, DeSean Jackson, and Pierre Garcon (the latter two McVay has worked with in Washington), LB/DE, Barkevious Mingo (the type of big and talented tweener Phillips likes), and FB, Kyle Juszczyk (a do-it-all Fullback that would really take the pressure off Gurley-big too).

All of these guys could really bolster the holes we have in our team and provide the intangibles we desperately need such as Mingo's newly acquired superbowl ring and winning ways mentality.

If we can bring in Zeitler to play guard and either Jeffrey or Garçon at WR, I'd consider that an A+ for free agency. I just hope they target a WR in the draft considering how deep it is this year.
 

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Many of the mocks have us taking WRs and DBs this year. Not much of a mention for O-lineman or LBs.
 

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In looking at our own FAs, I see several that just might return for a number of reasons.

These two may certainly be back.
91 Easley, Dominique DT 6-2 285 24 3 Florida
93 Westbrooks, Ethan DT 6-4 267 26 3 West Texas A&M

I suspect all of the following guys will be back especially the road grader Cam Thomas that will fit well in Phillips system. I don't see Phillips letting either McDonald or Johnson go either and Zuerlein who is starting to settle into a pretty consistent kicker has a very good chance of returning.

23 Cunningham, Benny RB 5-10 217 26 4 Middle Tennessee State
22 Johnson, Trumaine CB 6-2 208 27 5 Montana
25 McDonald, T.J. SS 6-2 217 26 4 USC
34 Reynolds, Chase RB 6-0 205 29 4 Montana
92 Thomas, Cam DE 6-4 335 30 7 North Carolina
4 Zuerlein, Greg K 6-0 196 29 5 Missouri Western State

Going to be tough to keep both TJ McDonald and Trumaine Johnson... Probably cost 25-30mil between the two contracts...
 

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I think TJ McDonald is most likely to move on. Alexander can move into SS and we can find a FS in the draft.
 

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Alshon Jeffrey won't be tagged and will be a FA.
 

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I think the Rams have to keep Trumaine Johnson. It will cost them but need is need. Riley Reiff played RT but could go back to left and is an upgrade from Robinson or even Saffold considering his health issues. T.J. Lang is 29 and would work for a guard but is that our biggest issue. I have said since before the last BS draft of Goff that the Rams biggest issue or hole is at center. retro did show the strength of the next draft at center but I can see a FA that the Rams should target and that is J.C. Tretter. At 26 he can play center, guard and tackle. So they could plug him into any spot the draft or other FAs they go after. As for WR, we should have drafted Jeffrey but now I don't want him with a history of health but Garcon has been relatively healthy and knows the system the Rams will run, I like that move better than Jackson. Let Britt go, Austin??, Quick gone.
 

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I guess im the only one that would rather keep McDonald and draft a CB
 
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