Probably should ask on Warriors board

[SFAnthem]

Just watched the Ws beat the Heat on the road...

Ready to buy in yet tzill?

If they go 30-30 the rest of the way that's 45 wins and the 6 seed in the playoffs.

Basketball records are the toughest to predict, imo. Unlike baseball where the worst teams will win 1 out of 3. In basketball, the worst teams can win 1 out of 8.

It's such a streaky league, where team momentum plays a big factor. They already lost B Rush and Bogut(for now) relying on rookies to take them the entire way is a tough way to stay above .500 unless Curry and Lee feel like playing at an all star level all year.

Still, this team is fun to watch even during sucky years..imagine how cool it would be if they can keep it up

 

[SFAnthem]

14-7 without Bogut and a patchwork defense. I don't agree with everything Jackson is doing (going small against teams like Orlando) but the man has dramatically improved this team. I still think the improved "defense" the Warriors are playing is more just better understanding of scheme than players actually improving under their own hoop, but if it works, then who am I to argue. Go Dubs!

Hey a Cam sighting!

How's it going? You missed the Giants winning ring#2!

Whats your take on the new Warriors venue? I hear the waterfront arena is moving along according to architect circles.

 

[CameronFrye]

Hey a Cam sighting!

How's it going? You missed the Giants winning ring#2!

Whats your take on the new Warriors venue? I hear the waterfront arena is moving along according to architect circles.

Hey Anthem. Been really busy. Working my ass off and trying to be a dad, coach, league volunteer at the same time. I didn't miss ring #2. Believe me. I was in front of my television every last moment. I just didn't have the honor of celebrating on these boards.

I am stoked about the new arena. I know the Giants brass has stated its reservations about the site, but methinks it is mainly because they wanted the new arena on their land. With the proximity to BART and CalTrain, I honestly don't see much of a problem. If BART and CalTrain can bring 42,000 people to the SOMA area, why not 54,000?

But what excites me the most about the new arena is that it is going to attract free agents more than the team's current home. I know that it is easy for a player to live in SF and drive 20 minutes across the bridge to Oakland, but the fact remains that the player would have to drive to Oakland. Nobody wants to do that - especially that neighborhood. Having an arena right on the waterfront in such a beautiful area in San Francisco is going to be a HUGE selling point for players looking for a new place to play. Instead of having to overpay players to come, I am hoping that a few years of winning and a new stadium will allow the Warriors to have more of a selection of FA players.

Go Giants! Go Dubs!

 

[msgkings322]

Not a bad road trip....

Including this face:

 

[msgkings322]

Some deep science from Grantland:

Golden State Warriors
The lineup: Jarrett Jack–Stephen Curry–Klay Thompson–David Lee–Carl Landry
The numbers: 198 minutes, Golden State's second most-used lineup

A group that should have been a change-of-pace scoring force has turned into Golden State's closing lineup, and it is blowing the doors off opposing defenses behind its five-man versatility and a hail of 3-point shots. In 197 minutes together, this group has scored about 117 points per 100 possessions — about 6.5 points better than Oklahoma City's league-best overall offense.

This group features three very good passers, two point guards, one solid post-up player (Lee) and one great one (Landry), and two of the most prolific outside shooters in the league. They've shot 55 percent on 2-point shots and a whopping 43 percent on triples, and they shoot a ton of the latter — nearly 25 per 48 minutes, well above the team's overall average. Those shooting percentages are probably unsustainable, especially considering the number of mid-range shots these guys take, but at least it comes from whip-smart passing; this unit has assisted on 66 percent of its baskets, up from Golden State's overall number (59.7 percent) and a mark that would lead the league.

Golden State can do almost anything with this lineup. They've often shifted point guard duties to Jack in crunch time, allowing Curry and Thompson to come jetting off screens on either side of the floor, catch the ball, and either shoot or run a quick-hitting pick-and-roll with whichever big is nearby. The Curry-Lee pick-and-roll is devastating enough on its own, and while Landry isn't on Lee's level as a pick-and-roll threat, the wing on this play can simply dump the ball into Landry for a post-up try.

The Warriors also like to run a Jack-Lee pick-and-roll on the left side, with Curry lurking as a kickout option up top, and they can always play through Lee in the high post and have the guards screen for each other off the ball.

And that's just scratching the surface.

The questions will come on the other end, especially as those shooting numbers regress to the mean. This group is undersized at almost every position, and it is beginning to show leaks; opponents have scored 105.3 points per 100 possessions against this lineup, on par with what Phoenix's 26th-ranked defense allows. Wings with strong post games can attack Thompson, and though Lee and Landry have been game all season, some big guys are just going to be too big for them.

The result has been some defense-bending double-teams and a ton of fouls; only the Raptors have allowed more free throws per shot attempt on a team level than this lineup. The scary thing: Opponents have shot a putrid 28.9 percent from deep against this group, and while that's in part a reflection of Golden State's attention to detail, it's also bound to change. Golden State has thrown out some zone to make up for the size and quickness issues, but top teams will eat that up if they get more than one or two cracks at it.

Long story short: This has been a wonderful story, but if the Warriors want to have some real postseason success, they'll need Andrew Bogut.

 

[SFAnthem]

The dubs sorely missed a guy like Bogut tonight. They had to trade off offense vs defense with Landry or Festus all night and got burned off the glass.

They are still hanging tough vs the best teams in the league during this stretch.

 

[tzill]

The dubs sorely missed a guy like Bogut tonight. They had to trade off offense vs defense with Landry or Festus all night and got burned off the glass.

They are still hanging tough vs the best teams in the league during this stretch.

I'm not sure Bogut helps their main problem tonight: turnovers. This is a tough 10 game stretch. 1-2 so far.

 

[SFAnthem]

I'm not sure Bogut helps their main problem tonight: turnovers. This is a tough 10 game stretch. 1-2 so far.

true

the offense does stall at times which can lead to a forced pass/excessive dribbling

If! Bogut can return, he provides a scoring and passing option down in the block. Landry and Lee were getting swallowed up by the Grizzlies' big men and when the W's go big, Festus and Biedrins don't provide much in way of scoring opportunities.

The kickout pass is important for the W's outside shooting, they rely too much on the swing to get an open shot. Having a big that can pass as well as Bogut has in the past could really open up the offense when playing a frontline like Memphis.

They got killed on the boards in the 4th when the defense played well and a few calls against Lee killed momentum.

A rising Portland team, the thin Denver air, the Heat, Spurs and Clips looming..tough indeed

 

[msgkings322]

true

the offense does stall at times which can lead to a forced pass/excessive dribbling

If! Bogut can return, he provides a scoring and passing option down in the block. Landry and Lee were getting swallowed up by the Grizzlies' big men and when the W's go big, Festus and Biedrins don't provide much in way of scoring opportunities.

The kickout pass is important for the W's outside shooting, they rely too much on the swing to get an open shot. Having a big that can pass as well as Bogut has in the past could really open up the offense when playing a frontline like Memphis.

They got killed on the boards in the 4th when the defense played well and a few calls against Lee killed momentum.

A rising Portland team, the thin Denver air, the Heat, Spurs and Clips looming..tough indeed

All of this is very true, but also, in the regular season sometimes a loss is just a loss (like baseball). The Hornets (Pelicans?) beat the Rockets last night. The Cavs beat the Hawks.

No question though the Ws match up poorly with Memphis, they're just too big.