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Ickey Shuffle

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Jamal Adams is lot better than #20. Glad he's being recognized though.
 

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He is the argument for greatest defensive tackle of all time
he's the best in today's game but you need to tap the brakes with this all time statement.
Bob Lilly 7 time first team all pro (6 consecutive)
Randy White 7 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
Alan Page 6 time first team all pro (3 consecutive twice)
Merlin Olsen 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)

consider Lilly, Olsen & Page played in the same era, all these guys defended the run & pass extremely well.

I'd say your boy still has work to do
 

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he's the best in today's game but you need to tap the brakes with this all time statement.
Bob Lilly 7 time first team all pro (6 consecutive)
Randy White 7 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
Alan Page 6 time first team all pro (3 consecutive twice)
Merlin Olsen 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)

consider Lilly, Olsen & Page played in the same era, all these guys defended the run & pass extremely well.

I'd say your boy still has work to do

Aaron Donald 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
 

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That's too current, can't you find something from like 2011?
i know, and from some sites you've never heard of ............i was gonna make a thread, but generally he then spews off about how i hate rodgers, and then a few certain non-packers fans join in, cant ever say anything bad about aaron........

#aaronputshimselffirst
 

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Aaron Donald 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
correct...like Olsen& White while Lilly had 6 consecutive. All pretty much while they were in the 20's as well.

Don't get me wrong, Donald is great, he's just got a ways to go before he's considered best all time
 

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Aaron Donald 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
One of the best players in the game today. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts. Top 10 on anyone's list I'm sure, but just can't call him the best DT ever. There are some good DTs in the game today, but how many all time greats are there to battle him for that All Pro honor year after year? Basically if he is healthy he'll get it again this year. 2019's other 1st team All Pro was Cam Heyward. The second team was Grady Jarrett and Deforrest Buckner. Good players, but certainly not anywhere near all time greats. 2018 other first teamer was Fletcher Cox. Second team was Chris Jones and JJ Watt. Watt is likely to go down as an All Time great but again the others are just good players and Watt has spent more time as a DE than DT. 2017 again Heyward was the other 1st teamer. 2nd team was Cox and Calais Campbell. So it's not like he is going up against what these guys in the 60's and into the 70's did and in those years too there were guys that had a great year out of nowhere or for a few years in a row in addition to what is below

Bob Lilly: 1961-1974
Merlin Olsen: 1962-1976
Alan Page: 1967-1981
Mean Joe Greene: 1969-1981
Randy White: 1975-1988

You can make a case these guys are the top 5 DTs in history and they had a lot of overlap with each other for those All Pro honors. Plus Lilly and Olsen were both on the all decade team for both the 60's and 70's. I can't put Donald in the same league as these guys. I put him more in the John Randle category which sure as heck is no insult
 

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He was good enough to lead the Packers to a 13-3 record and was one game short of being in the SB. Your boy Brady was one and done in the playoffs.

Those 3 GB players in top 50 led the Packers to 13-3 record, your guy went along for the ride, too bad SF made him their bitch again
 

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All those DBs in that top 50 are better than Minkah Fitzpatrick?

Yeah, OK.
 
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So no excuses for Wentz, than
There never are. Kid is incredible. Just has to stay healthy. Already lead his team to a first round bye on the way to a Super Bowl victory.
 

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he's the best in today's game but you need to tap the brakes with this all time statement.
Bob Lilly 7 time first team all pro (6 consecutive)
Randy White 7 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)
Alan Page 6 time first team all pro (3 consecutive twice)
Merlin Olsen 5 time first team all pro (5 consecutive)

consider Lilly, Olsen & Page played in the same era, all these guys defended the run & pass extremely well.

I'd say your boy still has work to do

Add Mean Joe Greene to that list as well. Then you have dominant pass rushers like Sapp and Randle. I mean Donald is definitely in the top 10 DT's of all-time already if he keeps it up for years to come he will definitely be top 5 and possibly top 3.
For example: Randle played for 14 years and he had NINE double digit sack years. Donald has played 6 years in the league and has only FOUR...one being one of the best seasons ever has a DT but still. Randle isn't even top 3, I would probably put him at around 5th imo.
 

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Add Mean Joe Greene to that list as well. Then you have dominant pass rushers like Sapp and Randle. I mean Donald is definitely in the top 10 DT's of all-time already if he keeps it up for years to come he will definitely be top 5 and possibly top 3.
For example: Randle played for 14 years and he had NINE double digit sack years. Donald has played 6 years in the league and has only FOUR...one being one of the best seasons ever has a DT but still. Randle isn't even top 3, I would probably put him at around 5th imo.

Donald also has two defensive player of the year awards. If Aaron Donald gets 10 tackle for losses this year, he will be in the top 10 all time, he has average 23 tols the last two seasons.

Randle has 9 in 14 seasons, Donald has 4 in 6 seasons
 
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