politics thread

[gkekoa]

Sorry dude, you just dont get to rebrand racism and make it more user friendly. I consider the slogans as well as the Rebel flag nothing more than a call to white nationalists. I fully believe he was aware of where these slogans got their origin, and is more than willing to deal in concepts of white fear and white nationalist concepts to further his agenda. That might or might not make him a racist, it damn sure makes him a race baiter. As I have said, I voted for him because I hoped he would grow into the President for all Americans..... IM simply not seeing that. And I think alot of his supporters are choosing to ignore it.

Well, I hate to break it to you, the origins pre-date clan usage. Woodrow Wilson, Coolidge, McKinley, and Harding all used the catchphrase.

It is a great catchphrase, as is MAGA. It acknowledges the greatness of America and insinuates we have lost some of that greatness, which we have.

Again, the words America first are simply common sense. It is the job of our representatives to put America before every other country on the planet. Many people are sick of seeing politicians appearing to favor other countries.

I appreciate your last part. What if, “this is the real Trump?”

Trump praised as 'pro-black' at White House prison reform event


Let me ask you a couple of questions regarding immigration and put race aside.

Does it make sense to have a lottery system in place to take random people from countries, like drawing names out of a hat?

Does chain migration make sense, to bring in people simply because they are related? I mean, I have an uncle who has been in trouble with the law and has no skills whatsoever, other than making married women pregnant...not his wife.

Believe it or not, I am a DACA supporter, but only after we stop the issue of recurrence...and we cannot allow the parents to stay. The parents willfully broke the law of our sovereign nation, and that cannot be rewarded. I would also only allow those DACA kids stay if they earn it...HS diploma earned, no record.

As for the wall itself, would you support “nonviolent inmate labor” to build it, reducing the cost of the wall? In exchange for two years of work, while learning a skill, earning five dollars per hour because they will be given room and board, they will be exonerated of their felony...they won’t even have to acknowledge it on an application for employment? Hell, I would even allow visitation from family.

 

[Sharkinva]

Does chain migration make sense, to bring in people simply because they are related? I mean, I have an uncle who has been in trouble with the law and has no skills whatsoever, other than making married women pregnant...not his wife.

It doesnt bother me, not even a little. Because as usual when people complain about it they have a tendency to try and pick out the worst cases and scream that this is why we shouldnt do this. If the same logic were applied to some groups of Americans, people would revolt. Apply the one bad apple logic to gun ownership and see how well that goes over with Americans.

Believe it or not, I am a DACA supporter, but only after we stop the issue of recurrence...and we cannot allow the parents to stay. The parents willfully broke the law of our sovereign nation, and that cannot be rewarded. I would also only allow those DACA kids stay if they earn it...HS diploma earned, no record.

This to a degree I call the "well IM really trying here approach." (sarcasm implied here) Sure the kids can stay, but the parents have to basically give them up and can never re-enter. Must control the population after all. Would you give your kids up never to see them again or have to take them back into the situation you were trying to get them out of? Dont bother spinning that, by the way, the question was rhetorical.

 

[skinsdad62]

I hate to break this bit of information to you but the MSM that people complain about is dominated by conservative ownership. (I'm going to leave it at that because I'm openly daring someone to challenge this)

Perhaps the most foolish statement you have madec

 

[skinsdad62]

I wonder , does paying a foreign agent ( steele) for a fake dossier smearing a candidate thus influencing voters amount to the same thing shark you are saying trump did ?

You guys still don’t understand why trump won and it isn’t because of the whopping 24 white nationalist they can muster for a march out 320 million people

 

[Sharkinva]

I wonder , does paying a foreign agent ( steele) for a fake dossier smearing a candidate thus influencing voters amount to the same thing shark you are saying trump did ?

You guys still don’t understand why trump won and it isn’t because of the whopping 24 white nationalist they can muster for a march out 320 million people

Sure it does.. and if Hillary did this, she should be held accountable as well. (By the way, much of the Dossier has been proven to be accurate, but that doesnt fit the narrative)

There were quite a few more than 24 people in Charlottesville by the way. He won because he preached a message of fear, Im not saying all his voters were white nationalists. But even some folks I dont consider white nationalists or neo-nazi's have made it rather obvious that the changing demographic of the country bothers them deep down.

 

[skinsdad62]

Sure it does.. and if Hillary did this, she should be held accountable as well. (By the way, much of the Dossier has been proven to be accurate, but that doesnt fit the narrative)

There were quite a few more than 24 people in Charlottesville by the way. He won because he preached a message of fear, Im not saying all his voters were white nationalists. But even some folks I dont consider white nationalists or neo-nazi's have made it rather obvious that the changing demographic of the country bothers them deep down.

there were 24 this past protest a few weeks ago in DC

and yes she did do that as it is on record

 

[Sharkinva]

there were 24 this past protest a few weeks ago in DC

and yes she did do that as it is on record

Well when folks got arrested, and lost jobs from the first rally, I guess it kinda let them know that showing up at these kinds of things would be toxic.

As for the Steel Dossier you do realize that the ORIGINAL probe into Trump was started by Ted Cruz though Fuzion GPS. Once Trump won the nomination, Fusion was hired out by the Clinton campaign. Fuzion is a US based research group, FUZION not Clinton hired Steele. So I get where you are trying to make the direct link that Hillary did what Trump did, but there is a difference in that the Trump crew did DIRECTLY conspire with Russians, knowingly. And again I will ask you... how many times did the Bobby did it first excuse keep you from dealing with your errant child??

 

[skinsdad62]

Well when folks got arrested, and lost jobs from the first rally, I guess it kinda let them know that showing up at these kinds of things would be toxic.

As for the Steel Dossier you do realize that the ORIGINAL probe into Trump was started by Ted Cruz though Fuzion GPS. Once Trump won the nomination, Fusion was hired out by the Clinton campaign. Fuzion is a US based research group, FUZION not Clinton hired Steele. So I get where you are trying to make the direct link that Hillary did what Trump did, but there is a difference in that the Trump crew did DIRECTLY conspire with Russians, knowingly. And again I will ask you... how many times did the Bobby did it first excuse keep you from dealing with your errant child??

and it makes no difference because HRC put her money in it to . and funny again another prim candidate OHR was involved in both investigations and his wife worked for , wait for it , fusion GPS . and again there is no evidence that any trump campaign official conspired with Russia to throw the election

there is plenty of evidence that obamas doj and fbi conspired to let HRC go for her crimes dealing with the unsecure server and in fact put a spt into trumps campaign without probable cause

 

[Stymietee]

Perhaps the most foolish statement you have madec

Really?? Take note that you are the only one who accepted my challenge. I suspect others took a moment to do a simple Google search to discover that FOX along with the Sinclair Broadcasting Group dominates the news industry. In fact when you think of ABC, CBS and NBC on the local networks from coast to coast Sinclair either owns or affiliates with every one of them. Here take a look for yourself:

Sinclair Broadcast Group - Official Site
sbgi.net
Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. is one of the largest and most diversified television broadcasting companies in the country.

Now about the radio there's this:

Right-Wing Radio Monopoly and the Myth of the Liberal ...
aristotle.com/blog/2014/09/right-wing-radio-monopoly-and-the-myth...


I cannot find the statistics on YouTube and other internet offerings, however thus far the articles that I have read all repeat the same as is with Television and conventional radio broadcasts.

In the end on air/ internet Conservative stances against the MSM is almost self-reinforcing. Doing the research you truly can't help noticing that is an obvious business model. Tell your audience that the mainstream media is corrupt and biased, then there's all the more reason to turn to your conservative talk channels in order to get the truth.

Not realizing that conservative television/radio is itself the MSM, the sheep follows the wolf.

WAKE-UP!!!

 

[gkekoa]

It doesnt bother me, not even a little. Because as usual when people complain about it they have a tendency to try and pick out the worst cases and scream that this is why we shouldnt do this. If the same logic were applied to some groups of Americans, people would revolt. Apply the one bad apple logic to gun ownership and see how well that goes over with Americans.

This to a degree I call the "well IM really trying here approach." (sarcasm implied here) Sure the kids can stay, but the parents have to basically give them up and can never re-enter. Must control the population after all. Would you give your kids up never to see them again or have to take them back into the situation you were trying to get them out of? Dont bother spinning that, by the way, the question was rhetorical.

So you believe in open borders...got it. If you had said that originally, we could have just ended this conversation.

 

[Stymietee]

You guys still don’t understand why trump won and it isn’t because of the whopping 24 white nationalist they can muster for a march out 320 million people

I suspect a lot of it has to do with the fact that she has a vagina. It is interesting that 57% of Caucasian women voted for Trump. Who knows if it was in part because these women were merely reflecting upon what they knew to be true about themselves? I'll bet they considered it though!

 

[skinsdad62]

I suspect a lot of it has to do with the fact that she has a vagina. It is interesting that 57% of Caucasian women voted for Trump. Who knows if it was in part because these women were merely reflecting upon what they knew to be true about themselves? I'll bet they considered it though!

weak argument sty , are you saying only white women listen to their spouses and their commands

 

[Sharkinva]

So you believe in open borders...got it. If you had said that originally, we could have just ended this conversation.

To be honest, it never really bothered me one way or the other until I realized how much it freaked out some people. So Im thinking of renting a semi and importing me some messicans. So I was for secure borders, I was never for a wall. Now yea, you could say the more the merrier.

 

[skinsdad62]

Really?? Take note that you are the only one who accepted my challenge. I suspect others took a moment to do a simple Google search to discover that FOX along with the Sinclair Broadcasting Group dominates the news industry. In fact when you think of ABC, CBS and NBC on the local networks from coast to coast Sinclair either owns or affiliates with every one of them. Here take a look for yourself:

Sinclair Broadcast Group - Official Site
sbgi.net
Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. is one of the largest and most diversified television broadcasting companies in the country.

Now about the radio there's this:

Right-Wing Radio Monopoly and the Myth of the Liberal ...
aristotle.com/blog/2014/09/right-wing-radio-monopoly-and-the-myth...


I cannot find the statistics on YouTube and other internet offerings, however thus far the articles that I have read all repeat the same as is with Television and conventional radio broadcasts.

In the end on air/ internet Conservative stances against the MSM is almost self-reinforcing. Doing the research you truly can't help noticing that is an obvious business model. Tell your audience that the mainstream media is corrupt and biased, then there's all the more reason to turn to your conservative talk channels in order to get the truth.

Not realizing that conservative television/radio is itself the MSM, the sheep follows the wolf.

WAKE-UP!!!

wake up ? those 3 stations you mentioned had a 92% to 8% negative story on perisdent trump . no conservative run outfit would do that against their guy . cnn abc cbs nbc cnbc msnbc headline news npr , ap , the NYT WAPO huffington post , media matters and virtually any major newspaper run left wing stuff

dont believe me take my challenge like shark and ebb didnt do

 

[skinsdad62]

ruppert murdoch owns fox . his sons are liberal

 

[gkekoa]

To be honest, it never really bothered me one way or the other until I realized how much it freaked out some people. So Im thinking of renting a semi and importing me some messicans. So I was for secure borders, I was never for a wall. Now yea, you could say the more the merrier.

Then you should pay for them.

 

[Sharkinva]

Then you should pay for them.

Just like you should start a gofundme for that wall... if you start now, you should have that $70B+ in no time. With or without the wall, America as we know it is going to change, and I tend to think for the better.

 

[Stymietee]

weak argument sty , are you saying only white women listen to their spouses and their commands

Absolutely not!!

I can't imagine how you've arrived at this conclusion. So to be clear, I believe that women know women, they know how they reason and how other idiosyncrasies come into play as women. Some, for example, might have reasoned that mood swings might cause problems, others their own cattiness inferred as being the same in other women. Now to be clear, NONE of this might not, in any way, been true of Mrs. Clinton, but we cannot discount the possibility that some of these women voters believed it to be a disqualifying factor.

 

[Stymietee]

ruppert murdoch owns fox . his sons are liberal

Did he die?

BTW: Liberal Australia is akin to the U.S. TEA party.

 

[reptec101]

Wouldn't it be great if we could build a wall across the middle of the US south to north. Those who appose Trump and his policies to the west. Open borders on the west side only. All will be welcome. Chicago goes to the west side since murders are not a problem obviously on the left wing networks that never mention em and will also move to the west. All of hollywood will stay put on west side. Law enforcement officers will be selected after migration (only if needed.. people will decide on that) West side president and all officials will be selected after migration as well with all votes from all people counted... even dead people. Entire west region will be sanctuaried. Socialism will be the chosen government for all people in west region. West region anthem will be some terrible rap song written by Em and Em (the only white person who can say the N word and get away with it). Guns will only be permitted only to those who obtain illegally. Security fences and alarms will be outlawed because not needed since everyone is a friend. Political correctness will be forced fed to all the children entering school.

East region will have laws and order. The constitution will be upheld. The flag will fly. American history will be taught in schools. Murderers and drug pushers will be shot upon conviction until murders and drugs are non-existent. All religion is honored and none will be disrespected. Political correctness will not be tolerated. Anyone offended by the slightest thing will be sent to west region immediately.

Would be a fun experiment.