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You missed my point.

Christians, Jews, etc. attitude/actions towards non Christians, Jews, etc. is much much much better then Muslims attitude/actions towards non Muslims

Devout far right Christians will just think you are going to hell... Devout far right Muslims will do something about it


You do realize that one of the most far right hate groups in America prides itself and in some chapters requires its members to be devout christians right?? And they are also think anyone not like them is a mud race.

Just figured i would throw that in there.
 

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It works both ways though. Think sports for a second. If you are Redskins fan (who doesnt have issues with the name) and you see a stranger in a Skins cap, you say HTTR. Because you assume you are on the same wave length.

wow it must be friday towards end of my day. Im surprised you understood my incoherent rambling.

Anyway I agree with your point. However, the greater point I was trying to make is that you (assuming) dont like the idea that I, and probably many other "conservative" voters feel if they see a black family with Obama stickers. I immediately write them off as uneducated voters participating in identity politics.

Is that anymore right or wrong than you writing off anyone with a Trump sticker as an uneducated racist hillbilly?
 

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You do realize that one of the most far right hate groups in America prides itself and in some chapters requires its members to be devout christians right?? And they are also think anyone not like them is a mud race.

Just figured i would throw that in there.

yeah but heres the thing...

the KKK and radical muslims... the scale isnt even. Its not even close to even. It is nowhere close to even.

Comparing a few thousand ppl to a hundred or so million?

People dont defend the KKK, people typically have ignored them and just write them off as idiots until MSM felt that by giving them a bigger platform then they have ever had they can push a false narrative. Meanwhile MSM will defend Islam at every opportunity.

These are not comparable
 

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wow it must be friday towards end of my day. Im surprised you understood my incoherent rambling.

Anyway I agree with your point. However, the greater point I was trying to make is that you (assuming) dont like the idea that I, and probably many other "conservative" voters feel if they see a black family with Obama stickers. I immediately write them off as uneducated voters participating in identity politics.

Is that anymore right or wrong than you writing off anyone with a Trump sticker as an uneducated racist hillbilly?


Two and a half years ago, I would agree with you. But I dont consider Trump supporters conservatives. For the most part I have been a conservative for as long as I was able to vote. I even voted for the Orange buffoon in hopes that he would become a President for everyone and not just his base. I was wrong. And people blindly supporting him now in my opinion are not conservatives.
 

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Two and a half years ago, I would agree with you. But I dont consider Trump supporters conservatives. For the most part I have been a conservative for as long as I was able to vote. I even voted for the Orange buffoon in hopes that he would become a President for everyone and not just his base. I was wrong. And people blindly supporting him now in my opinion are not conservatives.

I think you are stubborn and your feelings and opinions are very influenced by this thread.

America is really not nearly as racist as MSM would like to portray it.
Trump is a fucking idiot, but hes not a racist... and not everything is racist

In many instances Trump has done a great job. I of course love him moving embassy to Jerusalem for 1
 

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I think you are stubborn and your feelings and opinions are very influenced by this thread.

America is really not nearly as racist as MSM would like to portray it.
Trump is a fucking idiot, but hes not a racist idiot... and not everything is racist

In many instances Trump has done a great job. I of course love him moving embassy to Jerusalem for 1


Its easy for someone who likely will never fully experience racism to write it off as no big deal.

Trump might not be a hood wearing cross burning racist, but his actions before and since he has become president do show that he feels that sense of entitlement that only being born rich and white in America can give one.

To me Israel is another case of stolen land and it is no surprise that America supports them so much because until the end of WWII Israel was a refugee camp and not a country.
 

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nah.... jesuits are actually pretty liberal... fortunately the University of Scranton is not a liberal think tank... very uncommon for universities, especially state colleges

No even though I have no first hand experience of it, I was told that they are right wing. You have been indoctrinated clearly. Everything you say is therefore invalid. You are just parroting what you are taught...
 

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Immigrants and non immigrants alike send monies to foreign countries, all over the world every day to relatives not living here. What I care about is singling out one group while giving a wink and a nod to others.

Non-immigrants have a RIGHT to be here. They have a RIGHT to do what they want with their money.

Immigrants have NO RIGHT to be here, talking non-citizens. We allow immigration to help our interests.


It is hilarious that you believe we should treat people who do not serve our interests in a better manner than we treat our citizens. We can and should single out a group of people that do not have a RIGHT to be here and do not serve our interests.
 

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And this is whats so vexing here. You insist it "isn't" true due to the same narrative you accuse me of having by insisting it "is" true.

Tell ya what... I like ya kid,,, you're alright by me...so im gonna put aside our differences and send you out a book to help you keep up better with people like me .. and at no cost to you cuz im that kinda guy. Look for it in the mail. Read and then get back to me.

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If you can't figure out why believing everything you hear on the internet is a bad idea I can't help you.

You believe it despite no evidence that it happened because you want to believe it. Evidence is meaningless to you.

Do you also believe that Trump is a Nazi and a Russian spy hired directly by putin? Cause at least youd be consistent then.
 

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Non-immigrants have a RIGHT to be here. They have a RIGHT to do what they want with their money.

Immigrants have NO RIGHT to be here, talking non-citizens. We allow immigration to help our interests.


It is hilarious that you believe we should treat people who do not serve our interests in a better manner than we treat our citizens. We can and should single out a group of people that do not have a RIGHT to be here and do not serve our interests.

We should help our citizens by encouraging immigration.

There's no need to present a false dilemma of us vs them.

Increasing immigration is putting America first.
 

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No even though I have no first hand experience of it, I was told that they are right wing. You have been indoctrinated clearly. Everything you say is therefore invalid. You are just parroting what you are taught...


Give the man some credit. He is less hard right than some of our other friends around here.
 

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1. Bullshit, how do you know that I haven't studied? In fact did you miss the distinction that I made between "hate" and what was intended "rejection?"

2. You've totally missed the point or purposely ignored it. We of course weren't talking about people mentioned in the bible but current Christians, hence the 77% reference. So, with that in mind, the better question is...why?

3. Exactly!! So the whole BS line..." We are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God" is the ongoing excuse huh? Cafeteria Christians one and all! "Oops sorry your honor, that whole (insert misdeed) was just me falling short. After all we are all sinners and..." :D (yeah, yeah, I know render unto Caesar... BS)

5. ROMANS 9:13 KJV "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but ...
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-9-13

Proverbs 6:16 - 6:19 - King James Version
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Proverbs-6-16_6-19

Want to know how many Christians actually live in the U.S?...ZERO! Based on your own religious beliefs because the lord commanded you to do, not try, or use excuses to justify falling short!

1- Awww, so angry. If you had done a bit more studying of the Bible, then you would know more about the meaning. You are looking for the gotcha game, rather than understanding.

2- You completely miss the point, that is obvious. Just because people claim to be Christian, doesn’t make it so...just like a person claiming to be a woman doesn’t make it so.

3- It isn’t BS. Here is the thing. A Christian cares that they have sinned and tries not to do it again. They feel guilty or convicted by it. You don’t. Christians will sin because they are not God...

5- He hates the sin....not the person. A further explanation is here...Learning the Bible’s Terminology


Explain how no Christians live in the US. The Lord has commanded us to do these things. We all fail at doing them. You see...God is merciful and gives Grace. He is also Just and that is why the punishment for our sins was fulfilled by Christ...He came to fulfill all Righteousness.
 

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No even though I have no first hand experience of it, I was told that they are right wing. You have been indoctrinated clearly. Everything you say is therefore invalid. You are just parroting what you are taught...
Funny the so called conservative bashing the right wing again .
 

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We should help our citizens by encouraging immigration.

There's no need to present a false dilemma of us vs them.

Increasing immigration is putting America first.
Increasing smart immigration is putting America first.
 

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Increasing smart immigration is putting America first.


See bro, every time I hear someone throw out that particular phrase, IM reminded of the first place I saw it... on a coin.. in Georgia..

So you can possibly understand why Im not too found of that little slogan
 

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See bro, every time I hear someone throw out that particular phrase, IM reminded of the first place I saw it... on a coin.. in Georgia..

So you can possibly understand why Im not too found of that little slogan
I'm not familiar with the phrase you reference so unfortunately, no, I can't.

But surely you would agree that stupid immigration isn't putting america first, right?
 

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I'm not familiar with the phrase you reference so unfortunately, no, I can't.

But surely you would agree that stupid immigration isn't putting america first, right?


Google America first coin... all Im going to say on that one.
 

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Two minors stole handguns from their parents in a state with universal background checks, magazine capacity limits, and an above-average gun control rating. They were stopped in large part by an armed school security guard and an unarmed student who paid with his life.


Stop it.
 
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