politics thread

[reptec101]

The investigation must now turn to the democrats who tried to illegally take down the president, but like Smollet, even when found guilty no punishment will ever be handed down. Deals would all be made. It's how democrats roll these days. However, it would send a message that this BS will no longer be tolerated. For two years america has suffered through this crap... and Trump against all odds that aint nobody has ever faced has kept on winning... just like he promised. It's crazy but in a way I'm actually getting tired of winning so much,,, just like he said about that also. It's getting kinda embarrassing to be honest. Seriously though.. if no investigation is forth coming on their malice towards an elected president then no republican president will ever be safe of fabricated coordinated hoaxes. An example made of Smollett would have been huge in deterrence of any fake crimes against the other party, but like everything the democrats put their hands on these days they fail miserably. Tell me Im wrong.

 

[j_y19]

You do not speak for the populous. On ethics and principle alone, the FBI, CIA, entire DOJ must be investigated and purged as it had clearly become weaponized by one half o fate countries two political parties against eh other, and anyone they deemed a rival/enemy. That is a COLOSSALLY huge issue.

There you go. I may or may not speak for the populous. But I'd be willing to bet I have their sentiments more than you do.

 

[Toadman005]

There you go. I may or may not speak for the populous. But I'd be willing to bet I have their sentiments more than you do.

I'm sure you believe that as much as I belief it to be wrong. It's impossible to know either way. As such, I want justice, and guarantees that it will never happen again.

 

[Skins2021]

The science is far from undisputed . Research some more

should i search out confirmation bias like you or nah?

 

[Skins2021]

That isn’t censorship , that’s getting the ship back on course

shutting down a major news network because you dont like their message is not censorship?

right

 

[Skins2021]

For starters, you don't even know what my thoughts on climate change are, so don't presume to tell me I'm wrong as it actually makes you look like the religious fanatic I acute you of being. There is evidence of climate change but it is not undisputed, merely reported that way. Furthermore, the effect man has on it, and the positive effect any proposed changes would make are extremely controversial.

I know no one says I cannot drive...yet. But that's the thing about dealing with fanatics...they keep getting crazier and crazier and demanding more and more.

I think the proposed changes are terrible. I am with you there. The difference some of these proposed plans would make are so minuscule.

Paris Accord for example was a tremendous amount of money with very little ROI. I think we need to do more research on how to reverse it but it is totally reactionary to just throw a ton of 'feel good' money at the cause which is what the democrats have brought to the table....

however to deny the existence of climate change and mans affect on it could not be anymore stupid. If you deny the existence of it you either have a super low IQ or you are a partisan hack.

 

[Skins2021]

Let’s talk climate change. What makes it undeniable? Can you show me the science? Why was this such a cold winter? Why haven’t the ice caps completely melted like scientists claimed? Why does more oil exist on the planet today than it was thought to exist 30 years ago? Are there more natural disasters today than 300 years ago? Would these disasters have taken place without mankind? Where is the call to kill all the animals to save the planet?

Define open-minded for me. I think you are insanely close-mind3d if you believe man made climate change is proven without dispute.

How are the GOP against gays? Should individuals not be allowed to believe homosexuality is a sin which is a part of the first amendment?

If you as an individual believe that murder is wrong, and you believe it is a human being in the first term of a pregnancy, shouldn’t you try to prevent the murder? What is society said three year olds were not human beings yet? Would you speak up then?

If you believe legalization of pot will make things worse, should you legalize it? That doesn’t even begin to make sense.

Define caring for the environment. Should we abandon all forms of energy immediately, damn the issues? Why not? If you cared for the environment, you should immediately stop using these forms of energy? Here is an idea, if you believe fossil fuels are bad, don’t use them and leave the rest of us alone. You alone would help save the planet without affecting the rest of us.

1) There is a mountain of evidence. Google it
2) This is black and white. 2 + 2 = 4.... climate change is real and its baffling that people refuse to believe in it given said mountain of scientific evidence in its favor.
3) nice straw man rebuttal. I think late term abortion is wrong. I think 1st trimester abortion though when the embryo doesnt even have eyes yet is a bit different and covers the "what ifs" and its also a compromise that is badly needed.
4) i think pot has a ton of medical purposes and is much less harmful then alcohol. I also think that the government is missing out on a ton of taxable revenue which could decrease the deficit... this is a product where United States is definitively ahead of the curb now and could be an export with massive gains. Could also keep prison population under control.
5) Animals are literally going extinct. Poachers in africa and asia are a major concern. Big game trophy hunters should be ostracized. For fucks sake its 2019 why does anyone need to kill a lion when there are only a couple thousand left in wild? Just give a shit. Give a shit that we are dumping trash into oceans.

 

[Skins2021]

Let’s talk climate change. What makes it undeniable? Can you show me the science? Why was this such a cold winter? Why haven’t the ice caps completely melted like scientists claimed? Why does more oil exist on the planet today than it was thought to exist 30 years ago? Are there more natural disasters today than 300 years ago? Would these disasters have taken place without mankind? Where is the call to kill all the animals to save the planet?

Define open-minded for me. I think you are insanely close-mind3d if you believe man made climate change is proven without dispute.

How are the GOP against gays? Should individuals not be allowed to believe homosexuality is a sin which is a part of the first amendment?

If you as an individual believe that murder is wrong, and you believe it is a human being in the first term of a pregnancy, shouldn’t you try to prevent the murder? What is society said three year olds were not human beings yet? Would you speak up then?

If you believe legalization of pot will make things worse, should you legalize it? That doesn’t even begin to make sense.

Define caring for the environment. Should we abandon all forms of energy immediately, damn the issues? Why not? If you cared for the environment, you should immediately stop using these forms of energy? Here is an idea, if you believe fossil fuels are bad, don’t use them and leave the rest of us alone. You alone would help save the planet without affecting the rest of us.

if you believe homosexuality is a sin that is your prerogative, albeit an ignorant one.

The GOP fights the gays civil rights at every turn... if you dont like gay marriage dont get gay married... pretty simple.

Hate speech is not protected under the 1st amendment.

 

[Skins2021]

They haven’t, but they have affected other Americans. Should the litmus test of the rule of law be how does their lawlessness affect me? Then murder should be fine, as long as it isn’t my family. Do you understand how stupid your argument is? It is the equivalent of saying if you don’t have a uterus, you get no opinion.

i think it should be straightened out.. they are funded by tax payers and as a result work for the people and should not have partisan influences...

with that said I am going to live longer then you guys because i am not stressing day in and day out about the DOJ or FBI or CIA since it doesnt alter my day to day life. I get it there is corruption. It needs to be squashed, but that corruption has come to a head. I am optimistic it will be. There is no reason not to be.

 

[Skins2021]

Let’s talk global warming

I have been around since the 60s and we started out with we were going into an ice age and we were going to die ! That was wrong

The the ozone layer was going to fritter away and we were going to die ! Nope didn’t happen

Next we had global warming and Al Gore released “ inconvenient truth “ and made predictions from this “ settled science “. None of which came true !

See my issue with these so called scientist is how come their collective predictions based on infallible science always fuck up ?

Now I am a simple man but if your shit keeps coming up wrong then perhaps your science is wrong ?

Now I can go down political lane and all the BS the UN has pulled and said , none of which has any thing to do with science and everything to do with one world socialist Govt but I will stay with the basics since some here. Aren’t educated enough on the subject

YOU arent educated enough on the subject. The reason this topic has become politicized is because the DNC is using it as a weapon against the GOP because of how mind numbingly stupid they come off denying these truths backed by hard evidence.

Predictions are just that, predictions. Fact is that the earth is getting warmer, ocean levels are rising, pollution is out of control, animals are going extinct at a quicker rate, and the environment overall is in a fragile state

 

[Skins2021]

I can’t tell you how foolish this is

How does it affect your daily life (aside from the incessant crying on this board about it all day)?

 

[reptec101]

How does it affect your daily life (aside from the incessant crying on this board about it all day)?

This is how the FBI, DOJ and everything else that goes on affects my life. It pisses me off... thats how it affects me. It makes me an angry american. What right do these corrupt people have in deciding, for all americans, who should be the US president. You’re gonna rig an election just because you hate the other party... just because you thought you could. Smollets charges being dropped affect my life cuz it pisses me off. It pisses me off that we have a two tier justice system the dems seem to have incorporated at the expense of 50 percent of the population. So bottom line.. you gonna piss off a bunch of people you might have large scale problem with its citizens. I aint crying about it Im screaming about it.

 

[skinsdad62]

YOU arent educated enough on the subject. The reason this topic has become politicized is because the DNC is using it as a weapon against the GOP because of how mind numbingly stupid they come off denying these truths backed by hard evidence.

Predictions are just that, predictions. Fact is that the earth is getting warmer, ocean levels are rising, pollution is out of control, animals are going extinct at a quicker rate, and the environment overall is in a fragile state

Funny none of these gloom and doom things haven’t happened and far no one has shown me any untainted evidence that it’s driven by man

 

[skinsdad62]

How does it affect your daily life (aside from the incessant crying on this board about it all day)?

They are on duty 24-7 . If they succeeded then a hole new world of policies would be in place from the economy to health care to guns to virtually everthing that you obviously take for granted .

Now if you don’t like my incessant crying all day then find another place to go

 

[Toadman005]

1) There is a mountain of evidence. Google it
2) This is black and white. 2 + 2 = 4.... climate change is real and its baffling that people refuse to believe in it given said mountain of scientific evidence in its favor.
3) nice straw man rebuttal. I think late term abortion is wrong. I think 1st trimester abortion though when the embryo doesnt even have eyes yet is a bit different and covers the "what ifs" and its also a compromise that is badly needed.
4) i think pot has a ton of medical purposes and is much less harmful then alcohol. I also think that the government is missing out on a ton of taxable revenue which could decrease the deficit... this is a product where United States is definitively ahead of the curb now and could be an export with massive gains. Could also keep prison population under control.
5) Animals are literally going extinct. Poachers in africa and asia are a major concern. Big game trophy hunters should be ostracized. For fucks sake its 2019 why does anyone need to kill a lion when there are only a couple thousand left in wild? Just give a shit. Give a shit that we are dumping trash into oceans.

1.) Trusting Google is foolish.
2.) Agreed. But, the solution to it isn't a simple one.
5.) Nuke countries that litter and kill animals. Reduce the global population. Easy.

 

[Toadman005]

I think the proposed changes are terrible. I am with you there. The difference some of these proposed plans would make are so minuscule.

Paris Accord for example was a tremendous amount of money with very little ROI. I think we need to do more research on how to reverse it but it is totally reactionary to just throw a ton of 'feel good' money at the cause which is what the democrats have brought to the table....

however to deny the existence of climate change and mans affect on it could not be anymore stupid. If you deny the existence of it you either have a super low IQ or you are a partisan hack.

I generally agree with this.

 

[skinsdad62]

What does this kind of thing do for the multicultural mantra that all cultures are equal and no culture is better or worse than any other?

 

[skinsdad62]

Wait, you mean Obama’s former terrorism czar, close advisor and personal pick to lead the CIA might have played a huge role in igniting the unsuccessful bureaucratic coup against Trump?


This should surprise no one.

 

[Toadman005]

 

[Toadman005]

What does this kind of thing do for the multicultural mantra that all cultures are equal and no culture is better or worse than any other?

Thats a lie. Western culture is superior. Thats just a demonstrable fact.