politics thread

[skinsdad62]

Just like a socialist

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I have said that earlier DGF on several occasions that hannity is a mouth piece for trump . Go back and look

Yeah sorry, just re-read your post. You were separating Fox from the MSM. While techinically I guess they are but everyone kind of understands when we say MSM we are not discussing Fox.

But I stand by my position that Fox is every bit as biased as NBC and their viewers are forming or reinforcing their views based on this slanted reporting. So there is absolutely no difference.

 

[PickleRick]

Yeah sorry, just re-read your post. You were separating Fox from the MSM. While techinically I guess they are but everyone kind of understands when we say MSM we are not discussing Fox.

But I stand by my position that Fox is every bit as biased as NBC and their viewers are forming or reinforcing their views based on this slanted reporting. So there is absolutely no difference.

All news platforms report on what makes them the most money. Over time, this is what inevitably occurs. They are all sold out and bullshit.

 

[skinsdad62]

Wow just plain wow

 

[j_y19]

YOu do realize it took 107 years from the end of legalized slavery until the passing of the equal rights amendment in this country, and another 20-30 years after the passing of said amendment for it to actually take some effect. The only time congress works on something dealing with human rights is when they are forced to do so. Considering that some folks are pretty comfortable with things as they are (and would actually want to go back to the way things were)... we got say another 10-20 years before the LAW gets changed, and 20 more from that before people even pretend to accept said new law.

Shark, with all due respect, that is an excuse. Is there even a bill working its way through the halls of congress right now? The fact is our Representatives don't due shit but complain about the other side just enough to get funding to run their next election. No, if the Democrats in Congress wanted the law changed, they would be championing an new law. But in reality, they don't. The current laws work in their favor come re-election time. And on this particular issue, this is fallacy that many on the left have bought into. That is is all Trump and the far right that have instituted these supposed inhuman practices. But that's not the case. The only change between the Trump policies and the Obama policies is that Trump is more aggressive in enforcing the laws on the books. Which he has sworn to do. Again, don't fault the ones enforcing a supposed bad law, fault those responsible for keeping the law on the books.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Shifting gears a bit I kind of agree with Nancy Pelosi about the impeachment of President Trump. While I have done nothing to hide my disdain for this piece of shit and would like nothing better than to see him in the history books as one of the few President to be impeached it really won't solve the problem, it will only drive the wedge deeper. And with a GOP Senate an impeachment will mean nothing, like Clinton he will remain in office and again like Clinton it will only create more support for the President. And of course if they proceed and are unsuccessful that will be very damaging to the Democrats as well.

No I think the best play for those opposed to President Trump is to just let this play out and do what they can to win back the White House in 2020. And that means do not nominate Bernie or another of the far left candidates, the key is to pull in the voters on the fence and a candidate more center than far left (as I am) will have a much better chance.

 

[gkekoa]

I will try and make this easy for you.

When a house is built on a poor foundation, you will always have problems with that house until you rebuild it.

Our immigration laws were built on a poor foundation. They have been trying to patch the roof and fix the cracks in the wall for going on 100 years now. But the reality is, all they have done is change the undesired immigrant designation every few generations.


The Johnson-Reed Act was a project of racial engineering, but it was also an expression of foreign relations. In addition to severely restricting immigration, the Johnson-Reed Act redefined American foreign policy. In the past, immigration had been brokered through international treaties and negotiations. With the Johnson-Reed Act, America alone would control immigration, and it would do so according to a nationalist vision. The worldview laid out in the Johnson-Reed Act is still the foundational principle of immigration law today.

Do you hold this same truth in the Constitution? Maybe you don’t like the Constitution because slaves were not full people. Frederick Douglas would disagree with you.

Do individuals change?

Do you actually believe that our immigration policy, which sees very few whites come into this country compared to “people of color,” is still racist?

Nationalist- a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

I am a nationalist. America first. America has done more good in this world than all other countries. We are more generous than all other countries. We destroyed slavery quicker than all other nations. We essentially vanquished slavery worldwide. We have led more people out of poverty than all nations. We Allow more immigrants and visitors than all other nations. Somehow, we are still the great Satan.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

All news platforms report on what makes them the most money. Over time, this is what inevitably occurs. They are all sold out and bullshit.

I think to claim all news stories are bullshit is unfair. Take the Jessie Smallett story. What exactly were they to do? They saw the early reports, are they really supposed to simply ignore this big story? No their job is to report the news as it was at the time. When the story changed so did their coverage with the correction.

I believe the same occurred with the NA/Kid from KY story. They initially had the first shortened clip, they reported it as such. Once the full video came out they had to change their coverage, I remember the ABC morning news doing it and the reporter appeared embarrassed. Why would they purposely make themselves look bad if they had the entire clip, knowing it would come out soon?

To believe that ABC had the entire video and purposely distorted the reporting is right wing paranoia that I have grown to recognize in an instant. Is their agenda really to get Trump any way they can even if it makes them look like idiots later? That's foolish thinking. No they reported what they had, then updated it later when the facts changed.

 

[PickleRick]

I think to claim all news stories are bullshit is unfair. Take the Jessie Smallett story. What exactly were they to do? They saw the early reports, are they really supposed to simply ignore this big story? No their job is to report the news as it was at the time. When the story changed so did their coverage with the correction.

I believe the same occurred with the NA/Kid from KY story. They initially had the first shortened clip, they reported it as such. Once the full video came out they had to change their coverage, I remember the ABC morning news doing it and the reporter appeared embarrassed. Why would they purposely make themselves look bad if they had the entire clip, knowing it would come out soon?

To believe that ABC had the entire video and purposely distorted the reporting is right wing paranoia that I have grown to recognize in an instant. Is their agenda really to get Trump any way they can even if it makes them look like idiots later? That's foolish thinking. No they reported what they had, then updated it later when the facts changed.

I cant polish off every post with enough finites to appease everyone. I get what you are saying and i like you as a poster but i think leaving a bit to the imagination is not only a smart response but it also weeds out the morons. I get what you are saying tho.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I cant polish off every post with enough finites to appease everyone. I get what you are saying and i like you as a poster but i think leaving a bit to the imagination is not only a smart response but it also weeds out the morons. I get what you are saying tho.

I must be one of those morons because I do not get what you are saying.

I was more debating @skinsdad62 as he claimed ABC had the full KY kid video and purposely chose to distort the story. Again why would they do that and make themselves look bad on purpose, knowing full well if there was a longer version that showed the whole story it would obviously come out immediately? Which it did.

No that's as I said more right wing paranoia, everyone's out to get Trump all the time and that's nonsense. They reported what they had at the time, then embarrassingly reported the new updated story with an admission that they had it wrong. Again what business would do that? Makes no sense.

 

[PickleRick]

I must be one of those morons because I do not get what you are saying.

All good. I am saying both sides of this corrupt, runaway train that we call democracy needs to be derailed. This is the very thing our founding fathers warned us about.

 

[gkekoa]

I think to claim all news stories are bullshit is unfair. Take the Jessie Smallett story. What exactly were they to do? They saw the early reports, are they really supposed to simply ignore this big story? No their job is to report the news as it was at the time. When the story changed so did their coverage with the correction.

I believe the same occurred with the NA/Kid from KY story. They initially had the first shortened clip, they reported it as such. Once the full video came out they had to change their coverage, I remember the ABC morning news doing it and the reporter appeared embarrassed. Why would they purposely make themselves look bad if they had the entire clip, knowing it would come out soon?

To believe that ABC had the entire video and purposely distorted the reporting is right wing paranoia that I have grown to recognize in an instant. Is their agenda really to get Trump any way they can even if it makes them look like idiots later? That's foolish thinking. No they reported what they had, then updated it later when the facts changed.

Try this for a headline...Jesse Smollet claims racial attack. Jesse Smollet was attacked last night. He reported the perpetrators were wearing MAGA hats, claiming this is MAGA country, and yelling racial and homophobic slurs. This occurred at 2am in downtown Chicago.
Fact that this happened in downtown Chicago at 2 am should have been a huge red flag.

 

[Toadman005]

Excellent watch

 

[Sharkinva]

Shark, with all due respect, that is an excuse. Is there even a bill working its way through the halls of congress right now? The fact is our Representatives don't due shit but complain about the other side just enough to get funding to run their next election. No, if the Democrats in Congress wanted the law changed, they would be championing an new law. But in reality, they don't. The current laws work in their favor come re-election time. And on this particular issue, this is fallacy that many on the left have bought into. That is is all Trump and the far right that have instituted these supposed inhuman practices. But that's not the case. The only change between the Trump policies and the Obama policies is that Trump is more aggressive in enforcing the laws on the books. Which he has sworn to do. Again, don't fault the ones enforcing a supposed bad law, fault those responsible for keeping the law on the books.

First off I think both sides lieke the fight more than any possible solution when it comes to immigration. Because any talks of real immigration reform is generally DOA.

Secondly, I think most people know the current policies were not actually put in place by Trump. And if we didnt know, he will remind us daily of the fact that these policies were in place before he took office. What IS of his doing is taking the policy that was already in place and saying how can we make this work as harsh as possible because in the end it will please his base.

 

[skinsdad62]

Shifting gears a bit I kind of agree with Nancy Pelosi about the impeachment of President Trump. While I have done nothing to hide my disdain for this piece of shit and would like nothing better than to see him in the history books as one of the few President to be impeached it really won't solve the problem, it will only drive the wedge deeper. And with a GOP Senate an impeachment will mean nothing, like Clinton he will remain in office and again like Clinton it will only create more support for the President. And of course if they proceed and are unsuccessful that will be very damaging to the Democrats as well.

No I think the best play for those opposed to President Trump is to just let this play out and do what they can to win back the White House in 2020. And that means do not nominate Bernie or another of the far left candidates, the key is to pull in the voters on the fence and a candidate more center than far left (as I am) will have a much better chance.

Too bad none are going that route. Virtually all that have a shot have supported far left agenda items , free everything ( Medicare for all , free college ) AOC ‘ s new green enslavement deal in which you can’t have cars ,planes , any commerce and not work so you can be the state’s slave because your are totally dependent on govt

 

[skinsdad62]

San Jose Police Sergeant Speaks Out Against Sanctuary State Laws After Woman’s Death

Can post a different story like this everyday

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Try this for a headline...Jesse Smollet claims racial attack. Jesse Smollet was attacked last night. He reported the perpetrators were wearing MAGA hats, claiming this is MAGA country, and yelling racial and homophobic slurs. This occurred at 2am in downtown Chicago.
Fact that this happened in downtown Chicago at 2 am should have been a huge red flag.

I get all that. But it's still news and worth reporting, that's what the news does. They report the news as it's currently presented, once the story changed they updated their coverage. Are you really expecting ABC to ignore the story or present it with the "yeah we think this is BS but here's what we have"? That's just not how the news works, You are only worked up because of the MAGA claim.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Too bad none are going that route. Virtually all that have a shot have supported far left agenda items , free everything ( Medicare for all , free college ) AOC ‘ s new green enslavement deal in which you can’t have cars ,planes , any commerce and not work so you can be the state’s slave because your are totally dependent on govt

So you honestly believe Dems are running on the platform that will deny us cars or any commerce?

Good grief.......

 

[skinsdad62]

What I find amusing when talking about the MSM and such is how people equate Fox News and the blaze and say their bias counteracts abc nbc cbs npr cnn hln msnbc , CNBC . The left wing outlets overwhelm the 1 1/2 stations that allegedly spout out conservative views ( the blaze isn’t even fully national )

When you look at news papers the Left wing NYT dominates print media . The news magazines a virtually all left wing. For
Every Washington Times , New York Post there are 30 left wing papers . I think of any right wing news magazines

If you look at colleges liberals dominate that at about a 85-90%. Clip . And god forbid a conservative tries to speak at these indoctrination centers . They get shouted down , protested and rioted on .

Now talk to me about conservative news bias when it’s even close to being equal I terms of output

 

[Sharkinva]

What I find amusing when talking about the MSM and such is how people equate Fox News and the blaze and say their bias counteracts abc nbc cbs npr cnn hln msnbc , CNBC . The left wing outlets overwhelm the 1 1/2 stations that allegedly spout out conservative views ( the blaze isn’t even fully national )

When you look at news papers the Left wing NYT dominates print media . The news magazines a virtually all left wing. For
Every Washington Times , New York Post there are 30 left wing papers . I think of any right wing news magazines

If you look at colleges liberals dominate that at about a 85-90%. Clip . And god forbid a conservative tries to speak at these indoctrination centers . They get shouted down , protested and rioted on .

Now talk to me about conservative news bias when it’s even close to being equal I terms of output

If I didnt know any better, I would almost think you were describing what it feels like to be a disenfranchised minority in America.