Game Thread: Philadelphia Flyers at Columbus Blue Jackets 1/23/14 | 7:00pm

[Retroram52]

I agree awaz. They have some consistent problems they have not solved and we are going to be in a world of shit unless they do.

 

[awaz]

I agree awaz. They have some consistent problems they have not solved and we are going to be in a world of shit unless they do.

Not even lying right now, I expect this losing streak to be 9 games long when all is said and done. And a lot of them are gunna be blowouts.

 

[Retroram52]

Doesn't that beat all. Coburn breaks his stick and the blade scores.

 

[Retroram52]

I didn't think you were stretching the truth at all. The problems are glaring and consistent.

 

[Retroram52]

Onward we go. See everyone next time.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I knew this would be a blowout, I'm not shocked - this team has completely fell apart

 

[awaz]

I knew this would be a blowout, I'm not shocked - this team has completely fell apart

Indeed. At the beginning of the season and up til about 2 weeks ago I was still really high on this team. The past couple games have been truly awful hockey. Same mistakes over and over and over again. And then they take a penalty or 7 rather than correct mistakes.

 

[Progeriakid]

Great game to miss while working, glad I didn't miss out on anything important, just the norm as of late.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Indeed. At the beginning of the season and up til about 2 weeks ago I was still really high on this team. The past couple games have been truly awful hockey. Same mistakes over and over and over again. And then they take a penalty or 7 rather than correct mistakes.

I was trying to tell you guys even when they were winning a few of those games, I hated the way they were playing and it was going to come back and bite them

It starts with the coach and clearly Craig Berube isn't getting through to these guys what they need to do to be successful

 

[Retroram52]

I think you might be right Cobie. Perhaps he has lost their ear.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I think you might be right Cobie. Perhaps he has lost their ear.

I like his no-nonsense attitude but the problem is I don't think he's smart enough or savvy enough to bench guys when they start taking dumb penalties, other than Steve Downie - he should have been doing that stuff months ago when guys were doing that - and the way he chooses his goalies, it makes no sense - Steve Mason should be the number one goalie w/o a doubt, he doesn't get any rhythm because he's not playing 5-10 games in row, Ray Emery is always starting a game once every four or five games and it hurts the rhythm for Mase - starting Ray Emery a bunch of times in hostile, road environments is just stupid - I don't care if these games they lost were Razor's fault, it's just a mental thing where this team needs to have their absolute best guys every night and Mase should be the guy

 

[awaz]

i have a hard time blaming berube.. they did the same thing with laviolette.. can't just keep firing coaches because your players have an attitude problem

and i still say berube has handled the goalies fine. back to back games, backup plays one of them. i'm sure the plan was to play mase until the olympic break, but the postponement brought back in a back to back.. mase will probably start them from here to the olympic break though

 

[JBM73]

your players have an attitude problem

The GM can fix that problem...

 

[lasgop8]

I like his no-nonsense attitude but the problem is I don't think he's smart enough or savvy enough to bench guys when they start taking dumb penalties, other than Steve Downie - he should have been doing that stuff months ago when guys were doing that - and the way he chooses his goalies, it makes no sense - Steve Mason should be the number one goalie w/o a doubt, he doesn't get any rhythm because he's not playing 5-10 games in row, Ray Emery is always starting a game once every four or five games and it hurts the rhythm for Mase - starting Ray Emery a bunch of times in hostile, road environments is just stupid - I don't care if these games they lost were Razor's fault, it's just a mental thing where this team needs to have their absolute best guys every night and Mase should be the guy

100% agree on the goalie selections

 

[Cobiemonster]

i have a hard time blaming berube.. they did the same thing with laviolette.. can't just keep firing coaches because your players have an attitude problem

and i still say berube has handled the goalies fine. back to back games, backup plays one of them. i'm sure the plan was to play mase until the olympic break, but the postponement brought back in a back to back.. mase will probably start them from here to the olympic break though

If Mase can't start back to backs on a semi-regular basis, then I view that as an issue - and I'm not really blaming him either, because I think he can do it, but Chief for whatever reason won't let him take the reigns and just go with it

 

[4thstreet]

The GM can fix that problem...

Anyone else think that Homer goes the trade route to fix the problems?

I see the usual trade of prospects and draft picks to get that one guy that he thinks will fix everything.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with most of the players who seem totally lost out there most nights.

Starting from the back end,Razor is nothing more than an ok backup.IMO,they need to get someone better to spell Mason.

Defence-way too soft,and it's sad when the oldest guy on your team is the only true,reliable d-man

Forwards-totally lost.Guys can't seem to gel,and play with any heart on a consistent level.

PP-Carry the son of a bitch in,and quit the dump and chase,you have the extra man.

PK-lone bright spot,but they're burning guys out,by taking way too many dumbass penalties.

Coach-I'm ok with Berube-you can only do so much,with the hand you're dealt.

Who in the hell are the scouts for the Flyers?When is the last time,these guys have found a diamond in the rough? I think the mentality has been,draft the best player available,and we can always use him as trade bait,rather than fulfilling their needs.

 

[awaz]

If Mase can't start back to backs on a semi-regular basis, then I view that as an issue - and I'm not really blaming him either, because I think he can do it, but Chief for whatever reason won't let him take the reigns and just go with it

eventually he will start back to back games.. down the stretch.. january isn't part of the stretch run so he's trying not to burn him out until then.

mase has started 11th most games for a goalie this season with 37 starts. niemi is tops at 43. not a big disparity.

the goalies above him,

niemi
smith
fluery
lehtonen
price
pavelec
rask
lundqvist
bishop
varlamov

are either elite goaltenders, or on teams that have 0 goaltender depth. having emery be able to share the load right now, would help mason immensely in the long run, if there were to be a long run.

 

[awaz]

Anyone else think that Homer goes the trade route to fix the problems?

I see the usual trade of prospects and draft picks to get that one guy that he thinks will fix everything.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with most of the players who seem totally lost out there most nights.

Starting from the back end,Razor is nothing more than an ok backup.IMO,they need to get someone better to spell Mason.

Defence-way too soft,and it's sad when the oldest guy on your team is the only true,reliable d-man

Forwards-totally lost.Guys can't seem to gel,and play with any heart on a consistent level.

PP-Carry the son of a bitch in,and quit the dump and chase,you have the extra man.

PK-lone bright spot,but they're burning guys out,by taking way too many dumbass penalties.

Coach-I'm ok with Berube-you can only do so much,with the hand you're dealt.

Who in the hell are the scouts for the Flyers?When is the last time,these guys have found a diamond in the rough? I think the mentality has been,draft the best player available,and we can always use him as trade bait,rather than fulfilling their needs.

1. disagree strongly. i think emery is one of the better backups in the league.

2. i dont think the defense is soft. i think it's slow and can't pass for shit though.

3. agree

4. i'm ok with the dump and chase in principle, but when the flyers win approximately 2.7% of board battles (thanks simmonds) in a game, it's not a good plan.

5. PK has been good. dominant if you take in to account the penalty count. discipline has been a major problem

6. i'm good w/ berube too.

7. giroux at 22(ish) was pretty good. a lot of the good draft picks are still TBD, but look promising. i think a bigger problem than scouting poorly has been a lack of picks in general.

 

[4thstreet]

1. disagree strongly. i think emery is one of the better backups in the league.

2. i dont think the defense is soft. i think it's slow and can't pass for shit though.

3. agree

4. i'm ok with the dump and chase in principle, but when the flyers win approximately 2.7% of board battles (thanks simmonds) in a game, it's not a good plan.

5. PK has been good. dominant if you take in to account the penalty count. discipline has been a major problem

6. i'm good w/ berube too.

7. giroux at 22(ish) was pretty good. a lot of the good draft picks are still TBD, but look promising. i think a bigger problem than scouting poorly has been a lack of picks in general.

Will have to agree to disagree

Grossman-122 hits
Schenn-149

Mez-46 / Coburn-69 (these 2 guys need to lay out a hell of a lot more hits,to give opposing players,a threat factor.For christ sakes,Timmo has more hits than Mez at 51.

 

[awaz]

Will have to agree to disagree

Grossman-122 hits
Schenn-149

Mez-46 / Coburn-69 (these 2 guys need to lay out a hell of a lot more hits,to give opposing players,a threat factor.For christ sakes,Timmo has more hits than Mez at 51.

they could have 0 hits for all i care, i just want them to play solid defense and when they win the puck, move it up to the forwards and out of the zone. winning a board battle would be good too. there i suppose a hit would come in handy, but its not necessary