Pats post game

[gkekoa]

Good point(s) however, I believe that both, his ability to learn or not learn are completely dependent upon having people in the building who...

1. completely believe in him
2. will work tirelessly towards giving him every opportunity to succeed
3. Put he and his teammates in the very best position to win
4. Have the patience to suffer through his growing pains.
5. Evaluate him despite the team's inability to win or function as a professional football team.
6. Anything less and they fail him and their own future success.

Why is an individual’s ability to learn “completely dependent” on others?

This is where we completely disagree. An individuals ability to learn is based on the individual. The process can be made better with outside variables, but it all boils down to the individual.

 

[skinsdad62]

Again we will see but it’s apparent they want him to sit

 

[Stymietee]

See there is the rub … if and I do say IF he is having trouble and it is going to take two years then a No. 1 pick should not have been used. Blame Dan and Bruce. IF that is the case and the Skins have a very high pick why would you not draft a QB you thought might be better? IF they (not Dan) think he has the tools and is a year away draft something other than QB.

I don't believe that there was ever a real plan to get him "ready to go" under Gruden. Some QB's are like hitters in baseball, some you can work with to improve upon their natural skills and others you completely mess them up trying to do the same. I believe that Dwayne is more the latter and that his maturation comes with working with the first team at practice, and giving him certain plays that he masters, just in case there's a need for the next man up, back-up QB to come into a game. He's already proven that he learns from his mistakes, he studies with the best of them and he isn't a dullard.

 

[Stymietee]

Why is an individual’s ability to learn “completely dependent” on others?

This is where we completely disagree. An individuals ability to learn is based on the individual. The process can be made better with outside variables, but it all boils down to the individual.

Simple, there are coaches who can and often do, totally destroy QB's. They want this highly perfected player that has never lived or are so incompetent as professional coaches that they steal confidence, dull natural abilities and won't allow their guy to simply go out and play the game. You will agree that a dysfunction organization effects everyone won't you? He's a rookie, what does he know of the professional game beyond what's being offered or not by others?

Beyond that how about not employing such a narrow focus on part of the statement and in doing so, taking the statement out of context? Here it is, " I believe that both, his ability to learn or not learn are completely dependent upon having people in the building who..."

As a general rule all humans are dependent upon extrinsic forces when learning. In the NFL newly drafted QB's are in a category unlike any in the general public. wouldn't you agree?

 

[gkekoa]

Simple, there are coaches who can and often do, totally destroy QB's. They want this highly perfected player that has never lived or are so incompetent as professional coaches that they steal confidence, dull natural abilities and won't allow their guy to simply go out and play the game. You will agree that a dysfunction organization effects everyone won't you? He's a rookie, what does he know of the professional game beyond what's being offered or not by others?

Beyond that how about not employing such a narrow focus on part of the statement and in doing so, taking the statement out of context? Here it is, " I believe that both, his ability to learn or not learn are completely dependent upon having people in the building who..."

As a general rule all humans are dependent upon extrinsic forces when learning. In the NFL newly drafted QB's are in a category unlike any in the general public. wouldn't you agree?

Other individuals cannot steal your confidence or dull your natural abilities.

Dysfunction does defect everyone in the organization.

The completely dependent part is the problem. Haskins has to do his part, independent of others.

 

[Stymietee]

Other individuals cannot steal your confidence or dull your natural abilities.

Dysfunction does defect everyone in the organization.

The completely dependent part is the problem. Haskins has to do his part, independent of others.

It's clear that you want to continue speaking in generic terms when the subject is a particular individual and a particular skillset. Every QB that's ever lived had to learn how to play the position, what makes them great or not so great comes from within. It's utter nonsense that in a sport where individual positions are at question, input from other individuals can and often do steal a players confidence and ruin careers. Why is this not known to you?

 

[gkekoa]

It's clear that you want to continue speaking in generic terms when the subject is a particular individual and a particular skillset. Every QB that's ever lived had to learn how to play the position, what makes them great or not so great comes from within. It's utter nonsense that in a sport where individual positions are at question, input from other individuals can and often do steal a players confidence and ruin careers. Why is this not known to you?

Because it doesn’t really exist. Success at the collegiate level doesn’t breed success at the professional level because everybody at the professional level is an extraordinary athlete.