Pats accused of cheating again

[HammerDown]

ESPN says Pats have best offense in league.

Pats fans cry foul.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Here we go.

They are ranked 5th in Vegas with 8-1 odds Denver, Seattle, SF, and NO top 4. If your so confident HD put some money on NE, I'm not and I won't

 

[Center Ice]

Now how do you know it isn't one that he is paying child support for?

If you dunk the kid, that's a 4 point basket!

 

[Rex Racer]

Come on not everyone cheats at the same level that BB has or we would have seen more 500 K fines being levied out there. Shula found a raiders game plan one year and told his staff to rip it up...please don't put quality people like that in the same class as BB....simply not fair.

You're full of shit. Shula employed lip readers for a few seasons so they could report to him what the O and D coordinators were saying on the sideline and no one with one ounce of brain doesn't think he was trying to decipher this information in real time as in: during the game.

There is a reason every coach and coordinator in the NFL and NCAA covers their mouth with the play sheet when they relay info to the rest of their staff and that reason is cheatin POS named Don Shula.

 

[Midnightangel]

You're full of shit. Shula employed lip readers for a few seasons so they could report to him what the O and D coordinators were saying on the sideline and no one with one ounce of brain doesn't think he was trying to decipher this information in real time as in: during the game.

There is a reason every coach and coordinator in the NFL and NCAA covers their mouth with the play sheet when they relay info to the rest of their staff and that reason is cheatin POS named Don Shula.

The problem is that still keeps humans in the loop. People forget things and need time to figure things out.

Filming signals takes that away. You have time to go over every single signal by every single person, look at the down, distance and rest of the game situation. You can even splice it all together in a cut up film and show it to your team so they know what to look for come game day.

Not even the same as lip reading.

And since we took those tapes away......0-2. As a matter of fact, the Pats have kinda gotten owned on a few occasions.

 

[sonnyblack65]

The problem is that still keeps humans in the loop. People forget things and need time to figure things out.

Filming signals takes that away. You have time to go over every single signal by every single person, look at the down, distance and rest of the game situation. You can even splice it all together in a cut up film and show it to your team so they know what to look for come game day.

Not even the same as lip reading.

And since we took those tapes away......0-2. As a matter of fact, the Pats have kinda gotten owned on a few occasions.

Ahh your part of the Commish .thats cool. What games they did owned ? Sure they lost 2 toughSB games vs Giants which they had leads, late in 4th quarter and 1 was on the 2nd most memorable catch in NFL history by Tyree, 1st was immaculate reception by your team. Sure they haven't won a SB since then but still went 16-0 in reg season, 2 SB appearances, 4 AFCG and most wins wins of any team in NFL. Its tough winning SB's , but seem some posters get hung up on that and want to say they havent won shit. Whatever, I'm just glad they put up a competitive squad every year that Brady is at helm. 8 AFCG, 5 SB's , 3 Lombardi not to shabby

 

[BF4L]

12-02-2013, 04:14 PM

Amazing how these old threads come back to life.

 

[BF4L]

The problem is that still keeps humans in the loop. People forget things and need time to figure things out.

Filming signals takes that away. You have time to go over every single signal by every single person, look at the down, distance and rest of the game situation. You can even splice it all together in a cut up film and show it to your team so they know what to look for come game day.

Not even the same as lip reading.

And since we took those tapes away......0-2. As a matter of fact, the Pats have kinda gotten owned on a few occasions.

Keep telling yourself that. BB used film and Shula used lip readers. Also every team was using film. Did you forget that or just wanna ignore it? Shula is ok cause the human element was in place....I mean fucking seriously?

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Pats fans now believe lip readers are better than film...hahahaha! All I know is that Belicheat was caught and fined Shula wasn't so I rest my case.

 

[Inimical]

Tom Brady is never born if the fucking refs werent such incompetent idiots.

 

[NinerSickness]

Tom Brady is never born if the fucking refs werent such incompetent idiots.

Just checking: everyone except Raider fans understand that the Tuck Rule incident was called correctly according to the rules back then right?

 

[RobToxin]

12-02-2013, 04:14 PM

Amazing how these old threads come back to life.

Yes and as the resident Houston fan here ....

this is the main reason I have lost no sleep at all over Antonio Smith not being brought back. Anyone who can't man up and own up to getting beat instead of playing some kind of victim card can go play for someone else because he will always be on the losing end when all is said and done.

Players who own up to getting beat go out and make themselves better so they don't get beat again.

Players who cry Spygate any time they blow a big lead will always have a built-in excuse.

And will watch someone else hoist the Lombardi.

 

[TxHeat]

Yes and as the resident Houston fan here ....

this is the main reason I have lost no sleep at all over Antonio Smith not being brought back. Anyone who can't man up and own up to getting beat instead of playing some kind of victim card can go play for someone else because he will always be on the losing end when all is said and done.

Players who own up to getting beat go out and make themselves better so they don't get beat again.

Players who cry Spygate any time they blow a big lead will always have a built-in excuse.

And will watch someone else hoist the Lombardi.

it's people without a life and a team that sucks!!

 

[RobToxin]

it's people without a life and a team that sucks!!

Hey!

I resemble that remark!

 

[Rex Racer]

Keep telling yourself that. BB used film and Shula used lip readers. Also every team was using film. Did you forget that or just wanna ignore it? Shula is ok cause the human element was in place....I mean fucking seriously?

The funniest part about listening to all the crybabies is that filming the other teams signals is "NOT" illegal in and of itself and was being done and is still being done by every team in the league. It was a stupid gawddamn rule that said it couldn't be done from field level. As if doing it from the team boxes at the upper levels doesn't give you a better camera angle.

 

[Rex Racer]

Well, you're a Pats fan and there are those among you that still wont admit spygate helped you win anything, and those that believe that Gronk could have caught that ball in the endzone last weekend despite moving backwards and standing up.

So I'm not sure how much weight I give your opinion on this matter.

Still a little sore over your precious Pittsburgh teams getting pounded by the Boston (& NE Pats) teams on a regular basis are we?

 

[RobToxin]

The funniest part about listening to all the crybabies is that filming the other teams signals is "NOT" illegal in and of itself and was being done and is still being done by every team in the league. It was a stupid gawddamn rule that said it couldn't be done from field level. As if doing it from the team boxes at the upper levels doesn't give you a better camera angle.

Exactly. The rule that was broken was where he was standing.....not what he was doing.

 

[Rex Racer]

6 Lombardis > 3.

You've won NONE of yours without spygate.

You don't have to be a genius to know that a club that cheated for 7 years wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

Two words for Stealer fans and your tainted SB wins.

Ster oids

 

[sonnyblack65]

12-02-2013, 04:14 PM

Amazing how these old threads come back to life.

Think HD got himself one of those Hot Tub time machines. Bring me back to mid 70's please. Great music and

no responsibility,

 

[sonnyblack65]

Pats fans now believe lip readers are better than film...hahahaha! All I know is that Belicheat was caught and fined Shula wasn't so I rest my case.

Guess you never saw the movie Casino ( Joe Pesci and Frank Vincent) scene