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We do not have a very athletic draft class at all... I'm not saying I dislike it but the measurables of some of the players is pretty alarming.

Su'a Cravens really sticks out as a very unathletic player whos times measure up closer to an Oline then Safety/LB

I hope not but Cravens could easily be the big miss of this draft class
 

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Nawrocki's Draft Guide had him running a 4.65, electronically timed. Karl Joseph clocked in at 4.50 and Von Bell at 4.53. But Cravens has at least 20 pounds on each of them.
 

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Yep because the NFL is all about 40 times & bench press reps at the combine. If that were the case then scouts would not be needed since any fool could find the fastest & strongest. Football is about a lot more than that & a lot of these workout warriors don't do so great once they wear an NFL uniform.

Just about every analyst I saw over the weekend loved the Cravens pick & it is a major reason why the Redskins appear to have had one of the better drafts over the extended weekend.
 

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BTW - the Redskins 7th rd pick - Keith Marshall Georgia RB - ran a 4.3 at the combine - one of the fastest times ever. However - that guarantees nothing - hopefully he pans out.
 

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Character over combine numbers
 

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Cravens has a slow 40, vertical jump, and broad jump...

His athleticism is definitely a big question mark and cant go unnoticed... Im definitely pretty skeptical about the pick but love the idea of having a tweener just was hoping to have one a bit more athletic
 

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Yep because the NFL is all about 40 times & bench press reps at the combine. If that were the case then scouts would not be needed since any fool could find the fastest & strongest. Football is about a lot more than that & a lot of these workout warriors don't do so great once they wear an NFL uniform.

Just about every analyst I saw over the weekend loved the Cravens pick & it is a major reason why the Redskins appear to have had one of the better drafts over the extended weekend.

Of the 12 fastest 40 times in combine history, we wouldn't touch 9 of the players.

Here are some other workout warriors from the combine...
Adam Archuleta
Darius Heyward Bey
Matt Jones, QB turned WR
Charles Rogers
Brian Bosworth
Akili Smith
Tony Mandarich
Vernon Gholston
 

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Cravens also refused to work out for teams which is again kind of a red flag
 

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Of the 12 fastest 40 times in combine history, we wouldn't touch 9 of the players.

Here are some other workout warriors from the combine...
Adam Archuleta
Darius Heyward Bey
Matt Jones, QB turned WR
Charles Rogers
Brian Bosworth
Akili Smith
Tony Mandarich
Vernon Gholston
Alright cravens is the best prospect ever and is clearly a future hall of famer and if you think otherwise egg on your face... absolutely no reason to have any doubt whatsoever
 

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Skinsdad would be optimistic if SM drafted a huge turd on a stick in the 4th round..

"Got to trust SM lets see if it works out"
 

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Homers x10000

Whats he got to hide? Workout for teams whats the big deal

So please tell me why just about all of the other NFL analysts loved this pick? Ever heard of a guy named Jerry Rice? His measurables were not that good either.
 

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Skinsdad would be optimistic if SM drafted a huge turd on a stick in the 4th round..

"Got to trust SM lets see if it works out"

How did those picks from last yr work out? Not too bad. Until SM screws up really bad I am going to take his opinion over yours any day of the week in regards to the draft. We will see.
 

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4.71 for a WR is molasses. That Jerry Rice will suck.

Can a slow 40 time be indicative of a player that won't be able to play in the NFL? Yes. Then look at the game tape against teams he played that had future NFL players...then make a decision.
 

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Skinsdad would be optimistic if SM drafted a huge turd on a stick in the 4th round..

"Got to trust SM lets see if it works out"

Nolan Nawrocki gave him a second-round grade, acknowledging most of the points you raised.
 

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Of the 12 fastest 40 times in combine history, we wouldn't touch 9 of the players.

Here are some other workout warriors from the combine...
Adam Archuleta
Darius Heyward Bey
Matt Jones, QB turned WR
Charles Rogers
Brian Bosworth
Akili Smith
Tony Mandarich
Vernon Gholston

Remember the 40 time Trung Canidate ran? Great trade in getting him here via Spurrier, Snyder, and Vinny.
 

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Cravens also refused to work out for teams which is again kind of a red flag

The real proof is on the film. While measurables can tell part of the story, how they translate in terms of production is what's key. Bill Parcells once observed that measurables might be nice, but "can they guy play football?"
 
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