PAC 12 wants NCAA to make freshman ineligible to eliminate one and dones

[jeffro151]

Freshman ineligibility? Conference commissioners at least considering it - CBSSports.com

Instead of making freshman ineligible, wouldn't it be easier to just make kids stay for 2 years?

 

[Wamu]

The NBA & NCAA should make it a rule that players stay a minimum of 2 years. I think that would improve both the NBA & CBB games.

 

[jonvi]

I can see too many holes for this to be good for CBB.

To start with, not every kid is college material. They may be able to squeak through a freshman load with tutors but beyond that some just can't make it as a student. I guess those kids go the Lebron James route whether they are that good or not.

But ok...you now get kids to stay two years and yet they still only see the bball court for one year. That's still a one and done bball player if he decides to go pro.

I'm just not seeing a gain for cbb.

 

[CatsTopPac]

Freshman ineligibility? Conference commissioners at least considering it - CBSSports.com

Instead of making freshman ineligible, wouldn't it be easier to just make kids stay for 2 years?

The problem is that you can't "make" a kid stay. How do you enforce that? You can't force a kid to stay when the coach can leave at will. The rule is a NBA rule that says whether or not they can come before a certain requirement (at least one or two years, etc). But making freshmen ineligible is a way the NCAA can be proactive on the matter, instead of waiting for the NBA to decide for them. Problem is, I don't think this is a viable solution. Hell, that could cause more players to go to Europe because they don't have to sit a year. And really, you are just punishing the player.

 

[jeffro151]

This is what needs to happen, IMO. The NBA needs to adopt the NFL's ruling on this. A person must be at least 3 years removed from high school or must have completed 3 years of college.

 

[CatsTopPac]

This is what needs to happen, IMO. The NBA needs to adopt the NFL's ruling on this. A person must be at least 3 years removed from high school or must have completed 3 years of college.

I agree. I do think that if a kid is an obvious NBA star right out of HS that they should be able to go. If a team can tell the league that they will pick him in the lotto, then that player can go. Otherwise, they have to spend a couple/few years in college. They don't have to say which team will take them, but it essentially gives them a sponsor.

Otherwise, I completely agree. The NBAPA is what is holding all of this up.

 

[jontaejones]

This is what needs to happen, IMO. The NBA needs to adopt the NFL's ruling on this. A person must be at least 3 years removed from high school or must have completed 3 years of college.

Players staying three years? That would take the game back to the glory days.

I'm not sure what I'd rather have, that rule change or three days with the adult film star of my choice.

I'll take the latter.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

College basketball was so much better when players stayed in school for more than 1 year. So many more rivalries, higher quality of play, etc.... but let's be real. Kids these days will take money over anything. And I would too, so I don't blame em.

 

[BeaverShaver]

This will make CBB more bearable and NBA slightly watchable.

 

[uncfan103]

I wish the NBA would just adopt the MLBs rule and say if you go to college you stay three years. But, the NCAA has no say over how long someone stays so I can see why this rule would help. If you're planning on being a one and done player and this rule has been implemented then you'll either go to Europe or somewhere or you just won't ever play in college. It might be a power shift that can force the NBA to change their rule if they don't like the effect it has on their game. The one and done rule is terrible.

 

[uncfan103]

College basketball was so much better when players stayed in school for more than 1 year. So many more rivalries, higher quality of play, etc.... but let's be real. Kids these days will take money over anything. And I would too, so I don't blame em.

Not too many people are making that decision. Brandon Jennings and Emmanuel Mudiay are the only ones I can think of.

 

[Runeman]

No rules about how many years a player should stay in college suits me just fine.

 

[TBBishop]

Still not sure why anyone thought making kids go to college for one year made any sense at all. I would be disappointed if they get rid of the rule altogether but it is certainly better for college hoops, the NBA and 99 times out of 100 better for the kids to make them stay at least 2 years.

 

[SJ76]

Some of these kids will go to Europe and make some dough.

I like the idea tho. One and done would help spread out the wealth of talent, especially at Kentucky.

 

[MarkOU]

They are going about it the wrong way.

You have to lobby the NBA to change their job requirements.

Most jobs have certain criteria that must be met before they will hire you. If the NBA says you need to be one year removed from High School then that's that.

 

[KansasSooner]

Some of these kids will go to Europe and make some dough.

I like the idea tho. One and done would help spread out the wealth of talent, especially at Kentucky.

I don't know, the international players seem to be a higher level now and most of the kids just aren't that well schooled in basketball fundamentals.

 

[SJ76]

It won't stop them from trying. And u know what an agent is gonna tell them.

Who's the kid that was going to SMU and decided to go to Europe? I think it was because of grades tho

 

[uncfan103]

They are going about it the wrong way.

You have to lobby the NBA to change their job requirements.

Most jobs have certain criteria that must be met before they will hire you. If the NBA says you need to be one year removed from High School then that's that.

The NBA wouldn't have to change their rules. If freshmen are ineligible then...

a) coaches wouldn't recruit players that are going to go straight to the NBA. Players wouldn't go to college just for a year. the rule isn't that you have to have played a year of college basketball it is that you have to be one year removed from college.

b) why would a high school graduate choose to go to college and go to class for a year if they're not going to play at all in school and if they've already made up their mind they're going pro?

c) you eliminate athletes that have made up their mind and are not interested in college basketball. It won't stop players from leaving when they're ready, but that's fine.


I can see the benefits of this rule.

 

[trojanfan12]

There was a time when freshmen were ineligible. The reasoning was that they needed that first year to get acclimated to college. There are stories about how during Kareem's freshman season, UCLA's freshman team used to beat the varsity in practice.

I don't see the NCAA going back to that. I think to stop the one and done's the NBA would have to adopt a rule similar to the NFL and say that a player must be 2 years removed from high school before they are eligible for the draft.

 

[SJ76]

Trojan I was just talking about that the other day. In dean smith's book he talks about that same thing and the freshman, including Jordan would carry upperclassmen bags to and from games. I believe the freshman team was eliminated around Jordan's era.

Good book