PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[trojanfan12]

It's funny that the Pac-12 claims to be the country's second-oldest major conference. The schools that made up the original Pacific Coast Conference - which included 8 of the league's current 12 members - disbanded in June 0f 1959. Four of those schools (California, USC, UCLA & Washington) formed a NEW CONFERENCE in July of that year, with Stanford coming aboard a month later. The new league was dubbed the Athletic Association of Western Universities. Washington St. came aboard in 1962, with Oregon & Oregon St. joining what would eventually be called the Pac-8 in 1964. Even though the new league would be comprised of essentially the same schools as the old one, it was still a new conference since the old one - which dated back to 1912 - had been disbanded.

Current major conferences that pre-date the erstwhile Pac-12 include the Big 10 (founded in 1895), the SEC (1933), and the ACC (1953). Another FBS league (but not a Power-5 league) that pre-dates the Pac-12 is the MAC, which was founded in 1947 as a small-college conference. Additionally, the MVC (which no longer sponsors football) dates back to 1907; and the Ivy League - which traces its lineage to 1901 - and the Southern Conference (1921) were considered Major College until they moved to the FCS (1-AA) level in 1982).

Glad you got that off your chest. Clearly been bothering you for quite some time.

 

[Olyduck]

It's great to see the Huskies recruiting at this level. I'm still expecting USC and UCLA to add a lot more to their classes in January. Both will finish very strong. USC will finish in the top 5 as usual no matter whose the coach there.
Huskies have put together a really impressive looking class.

When Leavitt officially announces his intention to leave the Ducks to join FSU, there will be some another flood of decommits. There is always a chance he stays so I'm not counting that out either at this point. Phil could pay him millions more and it wouldn't even phase his wallet in the least. If he does stay, the damage is contained for now. But if he does, expect them to use the period between the early signing period and Feb LOI to hire a new DC and assistants that are needed, and try to do some late gets to fill the class.

looks like Leavitt is staying

 

[RegentDenali]

Took 1.7 mil a year to keep him. FSU probably wasnt prepared to pay that much for a DC.

Its an expensive move for a DC, but its a good investment by Phil to minimize the damage.

As long as your not buying players, and classes considered optional, I welcome the competition.

 

[Boise4Life]

Took 1.7 mil a year to keep him. FSU probably wasnt prepared to pay that much for a DC.

Its an expensive move for a DC, but its a good investment by Phil to minimize the damage.

As long as your not buying players, and classes considered optional, I welcome the competition.

$1.7 is more than our head coach makes and $1.4 more than our DC makes. Holy shit.

 

[RegentDenali]

$1.7 is more than our head coach makes and $1.4 more than our DC makes. Holy shit.

I've been worried for years now that Phil was going turn it into an PAC arms race with coach salaries and very questionable benefits to student athletes like the “Loaner laptops that never seem to be returned and entire families decked out in thousands of dollars of Nike swag on recruit visits”. It’s like they don’t even try to hide it anymore and taking the attitude that if it happens enough, everyone else will do it and the NCAA will just have to accept it.

The older he gets, the more he appears delusional Jerry Jones like and will pull some really stupid crap with his wallet to buy a natty.

1.7 million a year salary for a college DC is utterly ridiculous. It’s shit like this that ruins it for the rest. Especially the programs that don’t have a multi billionaire sugar daddy booster running the show and always spending like a drunk sailor.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/spor...tedly-set-run-oregon-state-defense/960165001/
Tim Tibesar, UW outside linebackers coach, set to run Oregon State defense


CougCenter source: WSU expected to announce extension for Mike Leach today

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Pacific Takes Podcast Bowl Previews 2017: USC and Washington take on big time Big 10 opponents

 

[RegentDenali]

There it is. Its an early Christmas present for Wazzy.

Washington State and Mike Leach have agreed on a new five-year deal that will pay the coach around $4 million a year and put his salary among the top third of Pac-12 coaches, SI has learned.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Chip just flipped a USC recruit and word has it he's about to flip another one.

 

[RegentDenali]

Jonathan Smith and staff have landed their first official commit to the Beavs.

3-star WR Jesiah Irish (Snoqualmie, WA) has committed to Oregon St. Offers included BYU, Hawaii, and Eastern Washington.

 

[WizardHawk]

Chip just flipped a USC recruit and word has it he's about to flip another one.

Looks like the condom fans up here won't be laughing about Chip moving in their backyard anymore.

 

[RegentDenali]

Looks like the condom fans up here won't be laughing about Chip moving in their backyard anymore.

Yep. Chip could sell ice to eskimos with that bullshit spewer of a mouth he has. Rubbers and those boosters of theirs just got a taste of it.

WR Andre Hunt decommitted from USC today as well. That could be the other one that ends up signing with UCLA considering the timing and the offer being in place. USC loaded up on WR last year so this one isn’t that big of a loss, but still...Chips getting to work on USCs backyard at Kelly speed fashion.

Still expect USC to finish strong as usual. But they do have some concerns with the lack of bodies in this class in later Dec. They got a lot of closing to do in the next 6 weeks and if they get their pants pulled down by tOSU, that won’t help matters from a perception standpoint.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Yep. Chip could sell ice to eskimos with that bullshit spewer of a mouth he has. Rubbers and those boosters of theirs just got a taste of it.

WR Andre Hunt decommitted from USC today as well. That could be the other one that ends up signing with UCLA considering the timing and the offer being in place. USC loaded up on WR last year so this one isn’t that big of a loss, but still...Chips getting to work on USCs backyard at Kelly speed fashion.

The WR that decommitted was a 3* so I doubt SC is sweating it ... just yet. If Chip has a decent season next year it could make for some good recruiting battles in LA.

 

[wazzu31]

There it is. Its an early Christmas present for Wazzy.

Washington State and Mike Leach have agreed on a new five-year deal that will pay the coach around $4 million a year and put his salary among the top third of Pac-12 coaches, SI has learned.

No, I want Grinch or Manning as our coach. Leach's time has come and gone at the school. It's not just because I'm not a fan of his, he just has lost all allies now, a new president who dislikes sports and caves to SJW's, an AD search that doesn't involve him yet the entire departments budget relies on him. It's just a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

 

[RegentDenali]

The WR that decommitted was a 3* so I doubt SC is sweating it ... just yet. If Chip has a decent season next year it could make for some good recruiting battles in LA.

There will be some. One thing USC and Stanford will have over Chiper when it comes to recruiting in that state is the systems they run are very pro-style and they have a legit track record of being pipelines to the NFL. Chips doesn’t put a lot of emphasis on defense even though his first couple coaching gigs were actually on that side of the ball, and his offenses are based more on sheer volume of plays with the tempo, small speedy backs, and exotic read option tactics where he combines multiple play types into a single play to throw off defenses. Not all the type of players USC targets will be the type of players Chip does. But we’re going to see how Chip can do vs PAC teams like USC and Washington who are back to full strength. Something he didn’t have to deal with during his HC years are Oregon. Will be interesting to see how well his offenses do against those Ds + Stanford’s which always gave him trouble.

 

[Boise4Life]

No, I want Grinch or Manning as our coach. Leach's time has come and gone at the school. It's not just because I'm not a fan of his, he just has lost all allies now, a new president who dislikes sports and caves to SJW's, an AD search that doesn't involve him yet the entire departments budget relies on him. It's just a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

You should be more than thankful to have him. He's brought your program out of the 10 to 12 year shithole it was in and made them relevant, made them ranked. For all his quirks, brazenness and everything else, that dude is one hell of a coach.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Looks like the condom fans up here won't be laughing about Chip moving in their backyard anymore.

Did you really expect USC to get "all" of the good California recruits? Petersen will get his fair share of California recruits.

 

[socaljim242]

There will be some. One thing USC and Stanford will have over Chiper when it comes to recruiting in that state is the systems they run are very pro-style and they have a legit track record of being pipelines to the NFL. Chips doesn’t put a lot of emphasis on defense even though his first couple coaching gigs were actually on that side of the ball, and his offenses are based more on sheer volume of plays with the tempo, small speedy backs, and exotic read option tactics where he combines multiple play types into a single play to throw off defenses. Not all the type of players USC targets will be the type of players Chip does. But we’re going to see how Chip can do vs PAC teams like USC and Washington who are back to full strength. Something he didn’t have to deal with during his HC years are Oregon. Will be interesting to see how well his offenses do against those Ds + Stanford’s which always gave him trouble.

Very good analysis. Recruiting is a harsh world. USC always loses pretty good players near the end because they see USC looking at or making inroads with other HS players at the same position who are higher rated. USC is close to landing the #1 player in cali whos #2 WR in the country. UCLA has Langley whos legit but he's a sophmore and not much around him. USC is loaded at WR so this kid decided to go where he's going to be higher up on the food chain. UCLA usually gets one or two good defensive players USC wanted like Anthony Barr a few years back but USC is still considered the school you go to if you're thinking NFL especially on defense. Yes Chips going to get a few players on the offense that USC would have liked but I think it's a worse sign for the Washingtons and the Oregons and Cal and Arizonas. Chips going to pick off the talented player that didn't grow up wanting to be a Trojan or feels they will get buried in the depth chart that would have gone to one of these other schools. USC will get top talent what they can't do is miss on a player. An example is Iman Marshall. He was a 5* CB with can't miss all over him.They missed on him.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Yep. Chip could sell ice to eskimos with that bullshit spewer of a mouth he has. Rubbers and those boosters of theirs just got a taste of it.

WR Andre Hunt decommitted from USC today as well. That could be the other one that ends up signing with UCLA considering the timing and the offer being in place. USC loaded up on WR last year so this one isn’t that big of a loss, but still...Chips getting to work on USCs backyard at Kelly speed fashion.

Still expect USC to finish strong as usual. But they do have some concerns with the lack of bodies in this class in later Dec. They got a lot of closing to do in the next 6 weeks and if they get their pants pulled down by tOSU, that won’t help matters from a perception standpoint.

Regent tell us how you really feel about the Chipper?

 

[WizardHawk]

Did you really expect USC to get "all" of the good California recruits? Petersen will get his fair share of California recruits.

What the hell are you even talking about?

We were talking about taking a verbal already committed to your school, not competing against the same talent pool. Those are entirely not related in any way imaginable.