PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[wazzu31]

So is if a positive is 10 of your 11 starters on defense are returning on a terrible defense?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[wazzu31]

With the year the conference as a whole has played out I’m calling an upset. Colorado will win.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

With the year the conference as a whole has played out I’m calling an upset. Colorado will win.

I continue to enjoy your avatars this season, well done.

 

[socaljim242]

So is if a positive is 10 of your 11 starters on defense are returning on a terrible defense?

What if it was terrible because they were young?

 

[socaljim242]

What the hell happened to Eason? He was supposed to be an elite QB.

 

[WizardHawk]

What the hell happened to Eason? He was supposed to be an elite QB.

Some of us have been saying it wasn't Browning as much as his OC.
They changed line coaches and it looks like that was an abject failure. UW has the worst OL I've seen since before the Sark years. And with the same guys that got it done last year.

I'm not saying Eason doesn't have his issues, but when every single target he has drops passes and they have multiple a week, he's put back behind a line that simply cannot block even mediocre pass rushes, and the play calling doesn't adapt to what the defenses are doing, what really do you expect?

< I've had that tagline for more than a year. Until Petersen gets serious about taking the next step and can bring himself to fire under producing staff, this is more or less where they will stay.

We watched Sark go through it while he held onto a worthless DC for a few seasons too long before FINALLY getting it. This year has to be the final straw. There's no way he can look at this team and not see the glaring reality of what his staff isn't doing well. It's entirely on him if he doesn't see it and do something about it. Even if the next guy is also not right, at least make the effort ffs.

 

[wazzu31]

What if it was terrible because they were young?

Sure, if we find a Jalen Thompson in the off-season. The speed d is predicated I’m having a sweeper in the back which we don’t have.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

USC 'leaning toward' retaining Clay Helton as football coach for 2020 season, per report

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[CorpRebel]

USC 'leaning toward' retaining Clay Helton as football coach for 2020 season, per report

Personally, I'd rather stay with Helton ONE more year and see what the new AD can do other than get Meyer. IMO, USC has had enough bad issues from the sanctions to the latest scandals and Meyer just has potential baggage to maybe cause further issues for the school down the road.

I am NOT criticizing Urban Meyer's "on field" coaching abilities, as he has the Natties on his resume, but in the SoCal atmosphere, it's a different type of "pressure cooker" in college football.

MY 3 cents, anyway...

 

[FORKWDEVIL]

Whoa!! That’s kind of crazy, right?

now it shows 40 low and no rain. That is pretty normal this time of year.

 

[trojanfan12]

Personally, I'd rather stay with Helton ONE more year and see what the new AD can do other than get Meyer. IMO, USC has had enough bad issues from the sanctions to the latest scandals and Meyer just has potential baggage to maybe cause further issues for the school down the road.

I am NOT criticizing Urban Meyer's "on field" coaching abilities, as he has the Natties on his resume, but in the SoCal atmosphere, it's a different type of "pressure cooker" in college football.

MY 3 cents, anyway...

Yeah, I like and have defended Helton. So obviously I'll have no issue with it if they keep him one more year to see what he can do now that USC finally has some measure of administrative stability.

Having said that, if USC gets word that they can get Meyer, they kind of have to hire him because of the very pressure cooker you talk about.

If they were to hire Meyer and it didn't work out, you just move on to the next coach and hopefully the one's who insisted on his hire will stfu.

But just imagine the uproar if the retain Helton, things don't get better and it gets leaked that USC could have gotten Meyer.

 

[socaljim242]

Some of us have been saying it wasn't Browning as much as his OC.
They changed line coaches and it looks like that was an abject failure. UW has the worst OL I've seen since before the Sark years. And with the same guys that got it done last year.

I'm not saying Eason doesn't have his issues, but when every single target he has drops passes and they have multiple a week, he's put back behind a line that simply cannot block even mediocre pass rushes, and the play calling doesn't adapt to what the defenses are doing, what really do you expect?

< I've had that tagline for more than a year. Until Petersen gets serious about taking the next step and can bring himself to fire under producing staff, this is more or less where they will stay.

We watched Sark go through it while he held onto a worthless DC for a few seasons too long before FINALLY getting it. This year has to be the final straw. There's no way he can look at this team and not see the glaring reality of what his staff isn't doing well. It's entirely on him if he doesn't see it and do something about it. Even if the next guy is also not right, at least make the effort ffs.

Eason has significantly more physical tools than Browning ever had but if he's not getting time it doesn't help. Thats why Darnold was so special. Dude was doing it with a horrible line.

 

[GeekSportsFan]

Personally, I'd rather stay with Helton ONE more year and see what the new AD can do other than get Meyer. IMO, USC has had enough bad issues from the sanctions to the latest scandals and Meyer just has potential baggage to maybe cause further issues for the school down the road.

I am NOT criticizing Urban Meyer's "on field" coaching abilities, as he has the Natties on his resume, but in the SoCal atmosphere, it's a different type of "pressure cooker" in college football.

MY 3 cents, anyway...

Agreed!

 

[socaljim242]

Yeah, I like and have defended Helton. So obviously I'll have no issue with it if they keep him one more year to see what he can do now that USC finally has some measure of administrative stability.

Having said that, if USC gets word that they can get Meyer, they kind of have to hire him because of the very pressure cooker you talk about.

If they were to hire Meyer and it didn't work out, you just move on to the next coach and hopefully the one's who insisted on his hire will stfu.

But just imagine the uproar if the retain Helton, things don't get better and it gets leaked that USC could have gotten Meyer.

If Meyer shows interest you have to get him. That's just a fact. If he would have come and wasn't hired the ADs dead man walking with the alums.
I like Helton and wish him well but I would have been fine with him getting fired after last season. But you have to look at the here and now and I would say keep him next season and see if things get better ( the coaching) if you can't get Urban. The players like him but don't fear him is what people have said. There's no repercussions when you screw up so there's a lack of discipline. When he let go of some of his assistants last season he obviously got the word that he's gone without changes. Well he needs to hear that he needs to light a fire under Clancy and Baxter. Special teams have been really bad except for the field goal squad.
I don't know if the game has passed them by but the defense is horrible when the other team is in a 3rd and long and you can get the ball back or stop a drive. Its been that way for years now so I don't but the latest excuse about injuries and young players. His defenses have always been bad at that. Having a D cord with NFL experience doesn't mean shit when he's not facing teams who run NFL offenses. I just think a D cord who knows these up tempo spread type offenses and how to stop them is needed. That 4th and 17 against UCLA was horrible . You know what they do and yet allow them to catch the ball . The player is going to be short and instead of tackling him right there Houston goes for the INT and misses. He's been horrible as a MLB . he's a great kid but not a MLB. I think Slovis out weighs him.
Any sort of a decent defense next season would make USC very dangerous because they will score.

 

[WizardHawk]

Happy Thanksgiving to my Pac12 brethren. May you and your families have a fabulous day and awesome meal together.

And then may all of your teams suck ass the rest of the year.






#backthepacisforhomos

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Happy Thanksgiving to my Pac12 brethren. May you and your families have a fabulous day and awesome meal together.

And then may all of your teams suck ass the rest of the year.






#backthepacisforhomos

Likewise

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Happy Thanksgiving to my Pac12 brethren. May you and your families have a fabulous day and awesome meal together.

And then may all of your teams suck ass the rest of the year.






#backthepacisforhomos

Back at ya Wiz Happy Thanksgiving