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Overturned - Brady suspension vacated. Let's hear you bitch and moan. Crow $2 a plate

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Just poking a stick there. It is my "belief" Brady did know 100% what was happening, did he flat out tell them to deflate after the balls were provided to the refs? that cant be answered by anyone other than Brady and John Jastremski. I don't think Brady and McNally text'd each other, he was the deflater with Jastremski being te middle man. To me the texts between Jastremski and McNally clearly show thew were secretly tampering after the ball were provided and the texts between Brady and Jastremski shows he needed equipment as payment. I will grant there is plenty of plausible deniability for Tom to say he's clean especially with the "Destroyed" cell phone. Just my belief but I'd bet the smoking gun was on that phone. Now even if the phone was handed over and it contained proof the four games was too much, yes I will admit I got a chuckle out of it but I had this stance from the beginning.

Let this case be a warning to all, don't text criminal activity to each other, it will hand you in the end.

They should have been able to get some more proof from the text messages on Brady's involvement if Brady's cell phones had incriminating information. I think e-mail's and text message record both sides of the conversation.
That should have been available on Jastremski and McNally's phones

Destroying the phone was certainly ill-advised. If there's one lawyer who was way over his head it was Don Jie. Between the phone and the Wells Report in context and other bonehead statements, he was terrible and really hurt Brady.

Clearly Brady would have had to have been an idiot to give up his phone. And even just giving up text message can have unintended side-effect even if most of the message seems relevant. i.e. Brady comments on Manning.

Still saying you don't care about the phone and then making it's destruction a reason for punishment is more proof it was a kangaroo proceeding.
 

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OK, then why did Wells tell Brady's attorney they didn't need his phone?
I don't know said 1000 haters. That's not important, Brady "destroyed" his phone is all that matters. Don't bore me with facts.
 

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So directly asking all individuals involved their story is retrying the case? I ask this because I don't know what is allowed in the appeal process. I don't know how an appeal authority can make a proper rulling without irst hand knowledge. What if the report was a 100% complete lie and the Judge upheld the ruling?
The judge didn't question what they found, but the fairness in how they found it.....
 

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How much would TMZ pay for a pic of Giselle, naked, doing things?
That is a good reason for Brady to have his phone destroyed

Maybe pictures of, you know, someone's nanny... ;)

Brady had to apologize to Manning because an e-mail dig at Peyton got out. Minor but still embarrasing.

The NFL was springing leaks like a sinking boat.
 

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I don't know said 1000 haters. That's not important, Brady "destroyed" his phone is all that matters. Don't bore me with facts.
I find them amusing, they get so worked up and freaked out
 

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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I'm trying to understand how a fan of the cowboys gets so worked up about a minor non issue that has no bearing on the cowboys.
 

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Why do they care if he's a superstar? If anything it enables Goodell to show the hater public and the owners how tough he is against the hated Patriots. Punishing Tom Brady? How tough is that? They had to get someone to take the fall and the text messages were the best they had.. Not much else. So they had to make Brady the fall guy. Why the obsession with getting Brady to agree with the Wells report?

Speaking of dense... That's what this case has been about since day 1, credibility, image and looking tough.
I can't believe I even have to answer this.....do you honestly believe that it's good business to suspend your star players who the fans pay to see? Get a grip bro...
 

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I'm trying to understand how a fan of the cowboys gets so worked up about a minor non issue that has no hearing on the cowboys.
Not worked up over it. I having a conversation on a sports forum and stating my opinion. I'd have to say tou are much more worked up than I ever was on this subject.
 

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Not worked up over it. I having a conversation on a sports forum and stating my opinion. I'd have to say tou are much more worked up than I ever was on this subject.
They are in defense mode because they feel a need to defend brady....although I'm not sure why if they believe that he never did a thing???
 

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I can't believe I even have to answer this.....do you honestly believe that it's good business to suspend your star players who the fans pay to see? Get a grip bro...
When the owners pay you $40 million a year, you botched your last 4 law suits, you've added to the conspiracy theory of the Patriot as cheaters by the way you handled Spygate....yeah I can see where he felt the pressure to go after Brady with guns ablazing.
 

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I can't believe I even have to answer this.....do you honestly believe that it's good business to suspend your star players who the fans pay to see? Get a grip bro...
no, its not good business...but its what goodell and 31 bitter owners with the taste of spygate in their mouths still wanted, very badly.
 

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@Rock Strongo - I need your "services" this B*tch I work with has really pissed me off now the rest of my work day I'll be pissed!
 

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Adam Schefter
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Patriots do not intend to try to recoup the 1st- and 4th-round draft pick losses and $1 million that NFL took from them in Deflategate case.
 

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I can't believe I even have to answer this.....do you honestly believe that it's good business to suspend your star players who the fans pay to see? Get a grip bro...

Won't give it up huh? The NFL makes money coming out of their ears. You don't think they can survive the loss of Brady for 4 weeks? How much do you think revenue would have dropped during that period? 1000th of 1 percent? :pound: Meaningless NFL exhibition games out rate live baseball games..

They had to come up with someone and the ratty ball boys wouldn't be good enough. Brady was the best they had.

You can't acknowledge Goodell and the NFL as bumbling idiots and then turn around and claim they were being rational in trying to punish Brady.

They could have had Brady suspended for 1 game... Compare that to the egg slime on their face they have now.. BUFFoooons.
 

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I wonder if Garoppolo will Tanya Harding Brady now? You know deep inside he was pulling for Goodell.
 
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