OT: The Hobbit

[IPostedWhat]

I didn't know that Middle Earth had rafts? Is that why people are saying that the pace of the movie is rapid?

 

[elocomotive]

I didn't know that Middle Earth had rafts? Is that why people are saying that the pace of the movie is rapid?

If you ask me, the movie is a bit overinflated. It just kinda floats along at times.

 

[IPostedWhat]

If you ask me, the movie is a bit overinflated. It just kinda floats along at times.

I'll just wait then till the movie is streaming online.

 

[elocomotive]

I'll just wait then till the movie is streaming online.

I'm not a big fan of online movies. I've had some rocky experiences with it.

 

[IPostedWhat]

I'm not a big fan of online movies. I've had some rocky experiences with it.

Now I understand why people were saying that they were confused by the one scene when they had to battle with the oars.

 

[HammerDown]

Entertaining but nothing to write home about. Azog was incredible though.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Watched about 2 hours of it so far, and it's alright, and just what you'd expect from Peter Jackson.

I hate though how characters like goblins and orcs have to talk or act like the 3 stooges though, and always have to have over the top characteristics. Also, why does Gandalf also seem to fight and fall from bridges? He should avoid them.

I also don't get the point in the Mountain Giants? What made them decide to wake up and start fighting one another?

The choice for who to play Bilbo was interesting, but I keep expecting David Brent to pop up and try to talk to him about what a great boss he is while he sneaks off to talk to Dawn Tisley.

Also not sure if it was in the book, but I hate when they refrence real life things such as the game of golf when dealing with a fanatasy world.

Just my opinions, I don't wish to sound smaug about it.

 

[SLY]

 

[Darkstone42]

Watched about 2 hours of it so far, and it's alright, and just what you'd expect from Peter Jackson.

I hate though how characters like goblins and orcs have to talk or act like the 3 stooges though, and always have to have over the top characteristics. Also, why does Gandalf also seem to fight and fall from bridges? He should avoid them.

I also don't get the point in the Mountain Giants? What made them decide to wake up and start fighting one another?

The choice for who to play Bilbo was interesting, but I keep expecting David Brent to pop up and try to talk to him about what a great boss he is while he sneaks off to talk to Dawn Tisley.

Also not sure if it was in the book, but I hate when they refrence real life things such as the game of golf when dealing with a fanatasy world.

Just my opinions, I don't wish to sound smaug about it.

I do believe the mountain giants scene was portrayed very closely to how it was portrayed in the book, but Tolkien had the benefit of being able to explain why they did that. I read the book several years ago, though, and don't remember why. I also distinctly remember several occasions of events in the book causing something we know to be invented, and golf was one of those things, so that part was true to the book.

 

[jerseyjigroe]

Pretty good. Not sure how they're gonna turn The Hobbit into three separate three hour movies though.

 

[Comeds]

The choice for who to play Bilbo was interesting, but I keep expecting David Brent to pop up and try to talk to him about what a great boss he is while he sneaks off to talk to Dawn Tisley.

Bilbo: We were wondering if a military man like you, a soldier, er, could you give a man a lethal blow?
Thorin: If I was forced to, I could. If it was absolutely necessary, if he was attacking me.
Bilbo: What if he was coming, really hard?
Thorin: Yeah, if my life was in danger, yeah.
Balin: And do you always imagine doing it face to face with a bloke, or could you take a man from behind?
Thorin: Either ways easy.
Balin: So you could take a man from behind?
Thorin: Yeah.

 

[mattola]

just saw the hobbit in 2d very nice. very clear

 

[elocomotive]

Bilbo: We were wondering if a military man like you, a soldier, er, could you give a man a lethal blow?
Thorin: If I was forced to, I could. If it was absolutely necessary, if he was attacking me.
Bilbo: What if he was coming, really hard?
Thorin: Yeah, if my life was in danger, yeah.
Balin: And do you always imagine doing it face to face with a bloke, or could you take a man from behind?
Thorin: Either ways easy.
Balin: So you could take a man from behind?
Thorin: Yeah.

And the erotic undertones only continued as Bilbo tried to probe for more information on military insertions...

Bilbo: So . . . you've dug your foxhole, and you've pitched your tent.
Thorin: Right.
Bilbo: They've discovered your camp, and you're lying there, and they've caught you with your trousers down, and they've all entered your hole without you knowing.
Thorin: No, 'cause I'd be ready for 'em.
Bilbo: What so you'd just be lying there waiting for it?
Thorin: Oh yeah, well, no! What's more likely, is that I wouldn't be there if I knew they knew where I was. I'd be hiding, watching the hole, using it as a trap.
Bilbo: So, you'd be using your hole as bait?
Thorin: Yeah.

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

To be fair to the movie, the golf reference is definitely in the book and the stone giants are better explained there, too.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Can we all agree though that Gandalf is a prick?

The guy just shows up and people's houses, creeps them out by looking in their windows,
while vandalizing their property, and invites people over to have a party.

Then he guilt trips people into doing things they don't want to do, while also making sure he's long gone when trouble is on the way, just to show up at the last second to save the day to make it seem like people actually need him, and will tolerate the fact that he's an asshole.

I'll bet you he has a hero complex, just like people that start a fire, and then rescue people.

Gandalf the Pompous Ass is more like it.

 

[Darkstone42]

To be fair to the movie, the golf reference is definitely in the book and the stone giants are better explained there, too.

I seem to remember them also inventing several turns of phrase, including "out of the frying pan and into the fire."

 

[mattola]

i think one of the things that bothered me a little about the Hobbit is that Peter Jackson has tried to recreate how the plot worked similar to The Fellowship of the Ring in the sense of how everything planned out from start to finish including being "hunted" by Azog which is identical to being hunted by The Uruk Hai in Fellowship. the timing of going to Rivendell and several other similarities in the filming including the mountain passes and lair of the goblin king to Moria. I understand in film when making a trilogy after a successful trilogy (see star wars) you want to work with the layout that was successful but I just felt it was a little forced.

now that I have seen it twice Im seeing these things. I still love it even though it is not as stand out as Fellowship however

 

[SLY]

Yea. I wish it was a little more on the childish side instead of the LOTR side. The fighting/action scenes felt a little forced. I still loved it enough to go see it three times.

 

[SLY]

lol, even I need to get used to the new username. I just hit refresh and saw KARMAgrinder as the last post and was like "who the fuck is that?"

 

[dare2be]

Did I miss something? Why the new username?