OT: Student shoots himself at LaSalle HS

[cincygrad]

Neat argument.

 

[flamingrey]

I will end my side of this debate with this tab bit of information....

All you are doing by adding more gun laws is restricting the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS from being able to arm themselves. Criminals will find a way to get their hands on guns regardless, putting them at a serious advantage in a confrontation.

LAWS only apply to those willing to accept the laws and abide by them. They mean nothing to criminals who will find a way to get their hands on guns, drugs, pimping out hoes, etc. Only the law abiding citizens suffer when gun laws are tightened up, IMO.

I really don't take either side. I am a gun owner myself, but also see the other side. But that argument there is hogwash. It's a scare tactic by the right and NRA. Nobody has EVER, EVER suggested taking guns away from ordinary citizens. Stricter gun laws do not make it more difficult to get a gun, unless you're talking about an extra few days. Whoopdee damn doo. But this "taking guns away from law abiding citizens" stuff has to stop. Oh, and the "building a registry to take your guns away in the future". All paranoia.

 

[MarkOU]

Neat argument.

Not trying to argue with you. Just laughing at your jokes.

 

[cincygrad]

Not trying to argue with you. Just laughing at your jokes.

Even better. You're on a roll.

 

[Gypsumstack]

I am in no way trying to make light of an awful situation, but the first thing that popped in my head when I saw this thread was Pearl Jam's "Jeremy". If that song and video came out today, the band would be crucified for it.

 

[bengaldoug]

I believe in the people's rights to be armed, but with every right there's a correlating responsibility. Any gun owner should be responsible enough to see that his kid doesn't have access to the gun, at least until he has been taught how to handle one responsibly. For the record, I do not nor have I ever owned a gun, but I am glad I have the right to if I so choose. I do believe in strict regulations that would keep potentially irresponsible people from getting guns, as guns and crazy people are a horribly deadly combination. If I chose to purchase a gun I would be glad to wait until I had been checked out, even if the background check took a couple of weeks. Has there been any news on how this kid got the gun?

 

[vancelot23]

IMO, ban assault rifles, they have no place, and put restrictions on buying ridiculous amounts of ammo off the internet. Also, the idiots in Congress that refused to enforce more thorough background check should have to experience some lunatic shooting up their town.

 

[MarkOU]

IMO, ban assault rifles, they have no place, and put restrictions on buying ridiculous amounts of ammo off the internet. Also, the idiots in Congress that refused to enforce more thorough background check should have to experience some lunatic shooting up their town.

Only if the same law is applied to law enforcement.

It's all or none baby.

 

[Gypsumstack]

Every gun has a place, or are you one of those people who think the second amendment is only about hunting?

 

[vancelot23]

No, but who needs fucking assault rifles. Military and lunatics. That's it.

 

[vancelot23]

Only if the same law is applied to law enforcement.

It's all or none baby.

Disagree.

 

[cju84]

I will end my side of this debate with this tab bit of information....

All you are doing by adding more gun laws is restricting the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS from being able to arm themselves. Criminals will find a way to get their hands on guns regardless, putting them at a serious advantage in a confrontation.

LAWS only apply to those willing to accept the laws and abide by them. They mean nothing to criminals who will find a way to get their hands on guns, drugs, pimping out hoes, etc. Only the law abiding citizens suffer when gun laws are tightened up, IMO.

100% agree. Why our politicians do not realize this is beyond me..

 

[cincygrad]

100% agree. Why our politicians do not realize this is beyond me..

What are you talking about? Our politicians continually block any attempts to revamp gun laws. Even when it flies in the face of the preferences of their constituents.

 

[kramer1]

Gun people are funny. They just get so damn fired up.

Did anyone else listen to Scott Sloan today on WLW? Holy Moly...

 

[BigBlueNation111]

No, but who needs fucking assault rifles. Military and lunatics. That's it.

 

[The Duke]

Gun people are funny. They just get so damn fired up.

Did anyone else listen to Scott Sloan today on WLW? Holy Moly...

Think of it as if people were trying to ban alcohol again. Coincidentally, what kills more people, accidental gun deaths or drunk drivers?

 

[vancelot23]

Don't get me started on drunk driving laws.

 

[SEC Official]

I'm guessing you haven't spent a lot of time in South Central.

Texas, Ark, Miss, AL, Tenn, etc all have some of the largest % firearm ownership in the US... and the lowest overall crime. The exceptions are big cities like Memphis, Dallas, etc.. where people obtain guns illegally and don't obey the laws anyway.

South Central is a prime example...gun laws won't matter there at all.

If they banned all guns tomorrow, that would be the new illegal trade coming across the border and S. Central would still be armed. Only way to stop it would be ban all guns AND shut the border... but that will never happen as the liberals are too concerned about the hispanic vote.

 

[SEC Official]

Don't get me started on drunk driving laws.

I say we ban spoons... they are killing fat people everywhere...!

 

[cincygrad]

Think of it as if people were trying to ban alcohol again. Coincidentally, what kills more people, accidental gun deaths or drunk drivers?

Absolutely ridiculous argument. First, the numbers are almost equal. Second, think about regulation of alcohol and cars.....

1) We constantly change DUI laws to make them more strict -- Rarely does one hear someone state that it is their 'right' to drink and drive.

2) Penalties associated with drunk driving have gone up significantly.

3) Millions have been invested on educational initiatives to better inform folks of rules and consequences of DUI.

4) Drunk driving deaths continue to fall in large numbers due to points 1-3.

I'm guessing that most that favor gun control are not advocates for banning weapons. Just as those that favor strict DUI laws are not advocating the ban of alcohol.