OT: George Steinbrenner Dies at 80

[pixburgher66]

i do respect what he did...he took a team in the most marketable and richest city in the country, spent money and got a good return and championships. it's one of the only places he could've been successful.

 

[loki604]

question is..
whomever gave the "thumbs up"...

is that thumbs up for the thread, or thumbs up for him dying.?? lol

*whistles*

 

[miamiforlife81]

Listening to personal stories about him today he sounded like a great man who was willing to give people second chances. I also admire him for actually using the money on the team, rather than some owners who chose not to.

I hate the Yankees but R.I.P George.

 

[puckhead]

Listening to personal stories about him today he sounded like a great man who was willing to give people second chances. I also admire him for actually using the money on the team, rather than some owners who chose not to.

I hate the Yankees but R.I.P George.

sometimes up to FIVE chances!

I do love that soundbite when he fired Martin again before even officially hired him.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

George Steinbrenner Dead After Firing Underperforming Heart | The Onion - America's Finest News Source


too early??

 

[Comeds]

I respect him for spending some of the loads of money the team brought in on the team and keeping it a winner for the most part (pay no attention to the 1980s). Many other owners would have pocketed a lot more than George did.

He was a great owner for the Yankees. For the league, I am not sure he was so great.

 

[pixburgher66]

yeah...as the fan of a team with a stingy owner and in a small market, i hate what he did to the market with inflating players salaries and basically putting the pirates and others out of the running to be competitive. not only him obviously the pirates have other much bigger issues...but the yankees money is what makes it impossible for the buccos to keep guys or even pay our draft picks.

 

[TOX1]

George the tyrant is gone...


*yaaaawn*

 

[miamiforlife81]

yeah...as the fan of a team with a stingy owner and in a small market, i hate what he did to the market with inflating players salaries and basically putting the pirates and others out of the running to be competitive. not only him obviously the pirates have other much bigger issues...but the yankees money is what makes it impossible for the buccos to keep guys or even pay our draft picks.

It can be done though, Tampa Bay made it to the world series 2 years ago and had I believe a bottom 3 payroll.

Some teams just have to work harder and draft better and build through the system.

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

I woulda had a lot more respect for Steinbrenner had he waited one more day to die so I wouldn't have had to listen to the all-star game announcers talk about how great he was every 20 minutes.



Too soon?

 

[elocomotive]

George Steinbrenner Dead After Firing Underperforming Heart | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

too early??

I was just gonna say he's not really dead. He's just negotiating with a guy in a smaller market for his heart at around $120 million over 5 years and negotiations are taking a little longer than expected. He'll be back soon...

 

[Comeds]

It can be done though, Tampa Bay made it to the world series 2 years ago and had I believe a bottom 3 payroll.

Some teams just have to work harder and draft better and build through the system.

Ah the old exception disproves the rule theory as spoken by none other George at owners meetings and CBA negotiations. Sure it can happen. BTW Duck are you a Yankee fan? You seem to stick to the front runners so I assume you are.

The facts show the huge payroll teams have a huge advantage, and consistently have a huge advantage.

I am sure the trend of MLB shaking its head and wondering why its fanbase is dwindling will continue for years to come. A few owners (guess who?) siding with the players union and Peter Angelos refusing to field scabs (and being viewed as a hero for it at the time) ruined any change of competitive balance for MLB for a long time.
So now they are talking about an evenly distributed schedule as a way to restore some balance, which might actually help a minute amount, but there will still be a 3rd of the league that cannot compete.

 

[Vadered]

I would chime in on this, but unfortunately, baseball is a terrible sport. (And yes, I can be an American and still hate baseball).

 

[anderwho2513]

I would chime in on this, but unfortunately, baseball is a terrible sport. (And yes, I can be an American and still hate baseball).

Hating baseball doesn't make you un-American. It just makes you a communist, comrade.

 

[puckhead]

Hating baseball doesn't make you un-American. It just makes you a communist, comrade.

yes, i watched it, and yes it was terrible.

 

[miamiforlife81]

Ah the old exception disproves the rule theory as spoken by none other George at owners meetings and CBA negotiations. Sure it can happen. BTW Duck are you a Yankee fan? You seem to stick to the front runners so I assume you are.

The facts show the huge payroll teams have a huge advantage, and consistently have a huge advantage.

As I said above I hate the Yankees and am a BlueJays fan. And yes the Rays making it does disprove that you can't win with a low payroll and low attendance.

As someone who's team has sucked for awhile I also used to play the "we can't compete because of money" card but TB proved you can if the management is smart about things.

 

[anderwho2513]

Baseball should get a cap floor before they get a cap ceiling. Don't blame the Yankees because your team's owner (and there are about 15 of them) pockets well over $50M at the start of the year from revenue sharing and doesn't put a single cent of it towards the team.

 

[beantownmaniac]

As I said above I hate the Yankees and am a BlueJays fan. And yes the Rays making it does disprove that you can't win with a low payroll and low attendance.

As someone who's team has sucked for awhile I also used to play the "we can't compete because of money" card but TB proved you can if the management is smart about things.

Sure you could do what Tampa did, but what's going to happen when they start losing players to free agency? The trend these days seems to show the teams spending money compete more often than those who don't spend.

 

[pixburgher66]

TB got lucky in drafting the right guys. sure, it can happen, but you have to be really lucky. and i agree about the cap floor. there needs to be some regulation...and as a fan of the pirates, the perennial cheapos, i think the floor is more necessary. fans won't come back until there's some sort of regulation and a way to keep it competitive through out the league.

 

[Ghost In The Machine]

I worked at a restaurant that he would eat at often. One time, we didn't have a private table for him, so him and his wife sat in the middle of the crowded dining room. Nobody bothered him. When he got up to leave, he started shaking hands and passing out Yankee-American Flag pins and shook a bunch of hands. Someone yelled out really loud, "You were great in Seinfeld, George!" The whole place erupted with laughter, and he actually bent over and held his stomach because he was laughing so hard.

True story.