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Bloody Brian Burke

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Does universal healthcare just get you an automatic score of 100? What about quality of healthcare?
Right. It's being evaluated as if our system is still operating at 1990 levels of quality, timeliness, access etc.

I'm at the point where I figure if I get cancer or some other terrible illness there's a better than 50% chance I'll have to go to the US to get treatment in a timely manner.
 

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Right. It's being evaluated as if our system is still operating at 1990 levels of quality, timeliness, access etc.

I'm at the point where I figure if I get cancer or some other terrible illness there's a better than 50% chance I'll have to go to the US to get treatment in a timely manner.

It was just last year that people in Victoria/Vancouver Island were traveling down to Bellingham for cancer screenings because there was a terribly long wait list and lack of screening opportunities.
 

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It was just last year that people in Victoria/Vancouver Island were traveling down to Bellingham for cancer screenings because there was a terribly long wait list and lack of screening opportunities.
Not just travelling, the government was PAYING for them to go down and get treatment in the US.

I'm honestly shocked Fox News didn't spend a month on that story lol
 

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It was just last year that people in Victoria/Vancouver Island were traveling down to Bellingham for cancer screenings because there was a terribly long wait list and lack of screening opportunities.

Not just travelling, the government was PAYING for them to go down and get treatment in the US.

I'm honestly shocked Fox News didn't spend a month on that story lol

a friend recently went to mexico for a major medical treatment to get it faster than here
 

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a friend recently went to mexico for a major medical treatment to get it faster than here
Guy I work with was dealing with a leg vein thing (not DVT but something similar I guess) for years, getting tests, new visits with a specialist, wait list for a procedure to fix it was over two years.

Went to Portugal because his dad got sick, asked the doctor at a private hospital there about it, set him up with someone else, paid €6500 and got it fixed within 3 months lol.

Basically everybody has a story like this or knows somebody who does. And it’s not like cuts or money is the problem - we’ve grown healthcare spending per capita since 2000 pretty much at or better than the level of inflation (may be slipping with the recent desire to import 2 million people a year though). Something else is rotten with how we’re spending our healthcare money.
 

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Guy I work with was dealing with a leg vein thing (not DVT but something similar I guess) for years, getting tests, new visits with a specialist, wait list for a procedure to fix it was over two years.

Went to Portugal because his dad got sick, asked the doctor at a private hospital there about it, set him up with someone else, paid €6500 and got it fixed within 3 months lol.

Basically everybody has a story like this or knows somebody who does. And it’s not like cuts or money is the problem - we’ve grown healthcare spending per capita since 2000 pretty much at or better than the level of inflation (may be slipping with the recent desire to import 2 million people a year though). Something else is rotten with how we’re spending our healthcare money.
yeah I think my friend paid $1500 US and got it done.
 

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I have had no issues with my dealing with the healthcare system to date. I think the government is trying ... i think it boils down to there being too much greed in and around the system.

I had a branch retinal vein occlusion in my left eye in August last year. Thats basically a stroke in the eye. My eye sight in the lower half of the eye became 100% pixelated. Brought me back to my teen years of trying to watch scrambled pron on tv.

Its caused by one of 3 things diabetes, high blood pressure or high cholesterol ... of which further testing has revealed I have none ... the retinal specialist thinks I may lift too much (lol)

I waited 2 weeks to go to an ophthalmologist thinking I may have gotten a scratch in my eye after doing yardwork. Let it heal on its own kinda thing ... Ophthalmologist found bleeding in the back of the eye. They booked me in to see the retinal specialist the next day at VGH eye clinic and I got my first round of what started as monthly injections into the eye. By December my eyesight was pretty much back to normal but these injections are now a regular part of my life. Along the way the doc has tried to push injection frequency out. started at 4 weeks, then 6 then 8. Tried for 10 weeks with my last one in early June but had a setback in week 9 where I had pixilation and pressure coming back so we are going back to 8 weeks for the next one.

Along this "journey" of mine there was a pay/fee dispute with retinal specialists, their own association and the government. ( Fee dispute by B.C.'s eye doctors could threaten treatment for 20,000 seniors - FUCK IM LUMPED IN WITH SENIORS LIKE DASH!!! )

What happened here was they (agreement with bc govt and the association) started using a less costly drug for the treatments for the eye issue i have (and other macular degeneration conditions). Avastin - its a cancer drug that they found out could be used for the eye. For the eye injection, it costs $13 per treatment. The drug they used to use cost about $1500 per treatment. not in the story I linked but it was in another global news that the eye doctors charged the govt $2100 per treatment. Their own association agreed to reduce that charge out to the govt but the retinal specialists pushed back and threatened to withdraw this treatment.

And what does this treatment entail ... I sit in a chair, the eye doctor squirts some iodine in it and some freezing solution (30 seconds tops) ... 10 minutes he comes back and injects the Avastin. Literally 5 seconds. Then 30 more seconds of squirting the eye with a type of antibiotic and brushing it with a gauze

$2100 ?

I mean its all covered ... nothing out of my pocket then and there ... until Apr 30 when I file my taxes.
 

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I had a doctor's appointment today. New patient so it only took 4 months to get an appointment.

So today I got felt up on my chest, stomach, and below (through my shorts) by a woman I just met. After that I went to my doctor's appointment. All was good.
 

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Fantastic ideas

Would like to see electric car chargers at each end of the lot rows. I would love covered and shaded parking.
 

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Several years ago, we had Cable TV monopolies and everyone hated that. So people started cable cutting as a means of protest of how you had to have the right package to watch what you wanted to watch.

So those same cable TV companies started their streaming services where they were able to make access to their own programming more restrictive and more expensive.

For nearly two decades I have gotten up all throughout July and watched the Tour De France from beginning to end. Until this year, instead of it being on NBC as it always has, it's now on SuckCock or whatever their 15 buck a month streaming service is exclusively and I am not paying for it because my Cable TV subscription (that I have to have to watch the hockey team that plays 8 miles from my house - otherwise pay for a single streaming service that costs more than I pay for cable to begin with) has 30 different NBC owned channels. Currently one is showing Joel Osteen, another is showing an infomercial for Gold Money Reserve Scam and others are showing Real Housewives of Law and Order or some damn thing.

I also have a bit more than a passing interest in Indy Car, and have not watched a single lap this year because it's on PeePants or whatever the thing is called. At least Indy Car realized no one was watching and switched to a new contract. I can only hope the TdF does the same thing.

Until then, I have to try and find a pirated stream that doesn't dump malware.

Good jorb cable cutters. You helped make a fucked up situation infinitely worse and somehow think you did something smart. Eat a bag of, well, Peacocks.
 
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