OT. Anyone else think this is HILARIOUS?

[BOSSMANPC]

That competition is rigged. The 12-yr old white girls get words like "school" to spell, and the poor 12-yr old hindu kids have to spell words like "phthalates".

What about the black girl that got "Ovechtrick" or whatever it is. Oh wait, that was a commercial.

 

[beantownmaniac]

'Bron was a free agent, 'Melo was traded. Different situations.

Melo would have been a free agent this summer so the circumstances are the same. Melo let the team know he wanted to play somewhere else and everyone knew it was NY. I have nothing against Lebron for leaving, he was a free agent, I just think it was classless the way he left and if he cared at all about the Cleveland fans, he would have told the owner what he wanted and they could have gotten some players in a trade with Miami.

 

[ELYEAH82]

Sure they could improve, they are a terrible team but regardless of their picks they won't be as good as when they had James.


It just bugs me that people hate the guy for a stupid decision. Most people here have probably made worse decisions in their lives hell I know I have. He is still one of the top two players in the NBA. And it also bugs me that Cleavland plays the victim card. Newsflash: you're not the first team to lose a star free agent. Man up and move on. Their fan base is acting like an 8th grade girl that just got dumped for the first time.

/end rant.

That rant should have ended before it started. What he did on national television is/was unheard of.

 

[ELYEAH82]

I think it is hilarious that they get two of the top four picks in a weak draft. The two players they get combined won't be able t sniff Lebron's jock.

People may not like him but just him leaving turned a perennial contender into a lottery team. That is some serious talent.

Do you even watch basketball? The Cavs lost a lot more than just James this offseason...I know for sure they lost

James
Ilgauskus
Delonte West
Shaq

and this is off the top of my head.

 

[johnnytata]

This is gong to be the chance the Spelling Bee Championship has been waiting for.

i kinda love the spelling bee.

been tryna figure out a way for a while to get in to see it live. i tried calling a couple years ago to see if they have tickets, but apparently only family can get in to watch.

i might try to see if i can be a volunteer.

 

[elocomotive]

Melo would have been a free agent this summer so the circumstances are the same. Melo let the team know he wanted to play somewhere else and everyone knew it was NY. I have nothing against Lebron for leaving, he was a free agent, I just think it was classless the way he left and if he cared at all about the Cleveland fans, he would have told the owner what he wanted and they could have gotten some players in a trade with Miami.

Yes, Melo wanted out and Lebron wanted to wait until free agency. Denver also wanted to trade Melo, while Cleveland wanted to keep Lebron, who I don't think knew where he was going to end up and wasn't sure what he wanted to do. I'm sure part of him wanted to stay in Cleveland. But the owner/GM in Cleveland had 7 years to get some players to help Lebron, and they didn't do it. Lebron doesn't owe the owner anything - they both made hundreds of millions for the other. A decade from now when Lebron has 2 or 3 or 4 rings, I doubt he's going to regret "the decision." And no player is going to want to deplete their new team of talent out of some sense of loyalty just b/c someone employed them.

If Dan Gilbert wanted to keep Lebron, he should have brought in Amare Stoudamire a couple years ago. If Lebron had won a title in Cleveland, he almost for sure would have stayed. Guy just wants to win, he's a team first guy, and is not an ego maniac or a law breaker - all common complaints of NBA players, especially on these boards. People want to judge him on one half hour interview instead of his body of work. That's too bad.

 

[johnnytata]

wonder if people will hate lebron for the rest of his career the way they've hated kobe his entire career for---er----raping someone.

 

[johnnytata]

or maybe the general public are saying it's ok to r*pe someone, just don't do it on national tv........

 

[ELYEAH82]

Yes, Melo wanted out and Lebron wanted to wait until free agency. Denver also wanted to trade Melo, while Cleveland wanted to keep Lebron, who I don't think knew where he was going to end up and wasn't sure what he wanted to do. I'm sure part of him wanted to stay in Cleveland. But the owner/GM in Cleveland had 7 years to get some players to help Lebron, and they didn't do it. Lebron doesn't owe the owner anything - they both made hundreds of millions for the other. A decade from now when Lebron has 2 or 3 or 4 rings, I doubt he's going to regret "the decision." And no player is going to want to deplete their new team of talent out of some sense of loyalty just b/c someone employed them.

If Dan Gilbert wanted to keep Lebron, he should have brought in Amare Stoudamire a couple years ago. If Lebron had won a title in Cleveland, he almost for sure would have stayed. Guy just wants to win, he's a team first guy, and is not an ego maniac or a law breaker - all common complaints of NBA players, especially on these boards. People want to judge him on one half hour interview instead of his body of work. That's too bad.

Everyone makes this excuse. They were the #1 seed in the playoffs, there was plenty of talent in Cle, and if not for James choke job against the Celts they might have won.

 

[ELYEAH82]

wonder if people will hate lebron for the rest of his career the way they've hated kobe his entire career for---er----raping someone.

That has always been speculation. What James did was witnessed by millions

 

[johnnytata]

That has always been speculation. What James did was witnessed by millions

agreed, all i'm saying is that there is a strong likelihood that many or most of the people who speculate this to be true are also blasting lebron.

and i'm pretty sure the "court of public opinion" about kobe is just as large as the "court of public opinion" on lebron.

either way, you can't deny the fact that certain things like r*pe, domestic abuse, assault, theft are all activities that this "court of public opinion" is much more likely to forgive than being a jerk on tv.

 

[elocomotive]

Everyone makes this excuse. They were the #1 seed in the playoffs, there was plenty of talent in Cle, and if not for James choke job against the Celts they might have won.

I wouldn't call a 19-win team "plenty" of talent. They dropped off by 42 wins in the season after Lebron left. For comparisons sake, Denver went 18-7 without 'Melo. It's safe to say Cleveland wasn't putting players around James to give him a shot at a title. He did pretty well there despite that.

 

[ELYEAH82]

I wouldn't call a 19-win team "plenty" of talent. They dropped off by 42 wins in the season after Lebron left. For comparisons sake, Denver went 18-7 without 'Melo. It's safe to say Cleveland wasn't putting players around James to give him a shot at a title. He did pretty well there despite that.

Do you seriously think all the Cavs lost was LeBron? If so you might want to look through their roster last year to this year.

 

[ELYEAH82]

agreed, all i'm saying is that there is a strong likelihood that many or most of the people who speculate this to be true are also blasting lebron.

and i'm pretty sure the "court of public opinion" about kobe is just as large as the "court of public opinion" on lebron.

either way, you can't deny the fact that certain things like r*pe, domestic abuse, assault, theft are all activities that this "court of public opinion" is much more likely to forgive than being a jerk on tv.

If someone is CONVICTED of r*pe I dont think there would be any forgiveness.

 

[johnnytata]

not talking about actual convictions.

there are huge numbers of people who don't need actual convictions to "CONVICT" someone. there are huge numbers of people who BELIEVE that kobe raped that woman. they could care less about an actual "CONVICTION."

but this proves the point even more. what was lebron even indicted for? what was he in jeopardy of being actually "CONVICTED" of? nothing. you can't go on trial just for being a jerk. yet he's villified based on the OPINION that what he did was a major jerk move. kobe is not nearly as villified for the OPINION that he raped someone.

you can tell me till your bolls drop off that aliens never landed at area 51, but that won't change my OPINION that they did. in "the court of public opinion" it doesn't matter what actually happened.

we're talking about public opinion and in the arena of public opinion, opinion=fact.

 

[ELYEAH82]

The opinion of him being a jerk was based on what everyone SAW on television, not what someone else said. I am not saying it is right or wrong. But people tend to believe what they see over what someone else says. It is easier to dismiss someone elses claims

 

[johnnytata]

what i'm talking about is the people who did not dismiss the claims about kobe. did those people change their minds in the last 7 years and now all of a sudden they don't believe it happened? are they still as infuriated by that as they were 7 years ago or whenever it happened?

are they as infuriated now about lebron as they were about kobe then?

even if a r*pe never happened, which is a poorer "DECISION?" kobe's DECISION to be alone in a room with that girl or lebron's DECISION live on tv to go to a different team?

 

[ELYEAH82]

I think LeBron's decision to crucify a city on national TV is worse than infidelity. Neither is/was a good choice but one happens all the time while the other has happened ONCE

 

[elocomotive]

Do you seriously think all the Cavs lost was LeBron? If so you might want to look through their roster last year to this year.

Yes, they also lost Ilgauskas (largely a role bench player now), a washed up Shaq, and an underperforming Delonte West from 09-10. The core of the team is still the same save Lebron - a bunch of role players. Who on that team is an all-star caliber player? Because you need at least two to win in the NBA.

Look, if you don't like him based on "the decision," so be it. It's your opinion. But he didn't have a talented team around them. He carried them and made a lot of those guys better. Only so much one guy can do.

 

[elocomotive]

I think LeBron's decision to crucify a city on national TV is worse than infidelity.

A shade dramatic.